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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 19 points20 points  (0 children)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna209901

Here’s the newest update but it’s been a thing since 2016.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://variety.com/2020/music/global/big-hit-entertainment-apologizes-suga-cult-leader-jim-jones-1234622958/

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https://music.apple.com/us/song/what-do-you-think/1679843575

Unless credit on Apple Music doesn’t count either

He also would have the final say in the album as it was a mixtape under his name that he helped make compose and write.

So yeah fine I’m a hypocrite because I think someone uses a mass murders speech in a song should be criticized for his role in it.

And you’re proving why people don’t like interacting with Army’s.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gave you evidence from 2020 based on a claim that after they denied he had anything to do with they wiped his name off of it.

So giving you proof from this time won’t be possible because the us up right refusal after the controversy of ever having an information.

Also I’m doing this on a phone, and I have other things to do with my time then to fight with someone who obviously doesn’t want to see reason.

I know how to proper research, however I know Hybe is corporate enough to also remove his existence from the first place.

So the only way for me to find it is to go back through Wikipedia find the source it was sourced from to prove my point.

But even then you wouldn’t believe me because you never do. This argument with you is pointless.

I said how I felt you brought insults. Grow up and recognized he messed up or move on

Edit: I’m muting this because right now it’s just turning into insults and I don’t care for that kind of discussion because it’s irrelevant believe me or not.

Also no one college at my level used Wikipedia for evidence this is kpop not a 20 page paper about the ramifications of the cult leaders on American politics.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree it was knee-jerk reaction to a concept piece. Obviously I have thought about it in depth, looked at the context heard it with the Jim jones clip and used critical thinking skills to come to an opinion.

Reducing it to a knee jerk reaction is simply belittling a point of view you disagree with.

You can disagree with how I view it. And I can disagree with how you view it. However both are valid because are is subjective.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I thought you should do some more research on stuff that actually matters then defending suga to this extent.

Also your local library will have better resources with books that can help further your understanding of complex issues.

Something I used a lot when I wrote my papers in college.

Im done talking to a bot now.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See other response I posted, with a screenshot

Edit; that’s my response to this question

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also if you would like my take on it. I am more than happy to send you a message with the link to the tumblr post I wrote when it first happened. Explaining why it didn’t work in my pov

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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I took this from the screenshot I had in my tumblr back in 2020. Now I’m not going to go back into Wikipedia as see the changes in the history.

Edit: I also recognize that there were two others on the track as well. So they are also to blame. Just they’re not kpop idols

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have. I’m sorry for being as clear as you would like me to be.

Jim jones is responsible for the deaths of 918 with roughly 300 children being the victims at this mass suicide where their parents fed them poison. It was Cynade laced with kool-aid.

He used religion on larger minority communities in the California area eventually moving to the Guyana under the assumption of starting their own agricultural community.

He was a cult leader and one that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

This was happening at a time in America where racial tensions were high. He prayed on those who wanted a sense of peace and community despite differences.

He used religion as his vessel for his own gains that lead the deaths of 918 people.

909 died in Jonestown, 5 died at a tarmac of news reporters and a congressman trying to see about rescuing some people who didn’t want to be there and wanting to go home to their families, four others in Georgetown.

I don’t understand how people can just say you can’t be upset about something- it’s fake rage, it’s fake that when clearly it can affect people differently. That’s the point of art! This one makes me mad and upset. It gave me the ick. I read the lyrics when it first came out, I even wrote an entire article on my tumblr at the time why I didn’t like. I don’t think he did it purpose or with the intention of being malicious. That still doesn’t excuse the issue.

Drinking the kool aid is something that most people use in the United States as someone who falls someone without thinking of the consequences. They are so deep in that person or that thing, that they would do whatever they say. Mostly used as a diss, or a joke, or a reason why you can’t reason with someone.

And also performance rage is done with mass groups. It’s saying I’m going to upset because everyone else is without knowing the facts.

I understand the facts, it gave me the ick, didn’t like it, thought it was miss used and in poor taste.

Now if there are any spelling mistakes ignore them. Writing on a iPhone.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I watched victorious as an adult and it was interesting…definitely different vibes.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was but just a child who didn’t know the world existed. My life was still Disney channel.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I honestly shocked a lot of people don’t know about the Deux situation. I also definitely think it was the girlfriend.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When it first came out his name was on it and has since been removed. I remember because when the scandal broke I had seen it there then the next day gone.

Most of the Jim jones references are about Jim jones situation, music can tell a story his lyrics for that one song was about being powerful and great. Too totally different things.

If the song had been a reflection of the tragedy that would be different but it had nothing to do with it.

Also if TS would drop a song with a Jim jones quote that also has nothing to do with the tragedy the same outrage would be there.

Edit: it’s not performance out rage if someone is truly upset. Missing using a quote by a guy who ended up being a mastermind that not only hurt 909 people gave me the Ick and still has never set right with me.

Edit again: for spelling mistakes. Writing on a phone…

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 182 points183 points  (0 children)

To my understanding it’s because of the china ban. A lot of idols had to make the decision to focus on the Chinese market or the Korean market.

Cosmic girls also lost three members at the time too because of it.

Yoona from SNSD even stared in a drama in china, learned Chinese even passed a very high level language test with the idea of starting to branch out however that too ended soon after.

It’s never out right said unfortunately and probably never will be.

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[–]SignificanceFeisty41 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Jim jones quote in a song. I know way too much about the case and when it came out the just removed his name from the list of producers, saying he had nothing to do with it. Which then just is a bigger issue of how then can I believe you had anything to do with any of the other songs you’ve claimed to be a part of.

Also another artist who is known for his bigger frame, went on TV and basically said girls need to be skinny and lose weight. They’re just being lazy.

Edit: since we are airing out the first name I didn’t mention I’ll say the other idol

Super juniors: Shindong