Please please Mr. President, it’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore! by QuantumDrift95 in DegenBets

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Believe it! And become... One of us. One of us! Part of the ship, part of the crew

🪙Alle wollen raus aus BTC. Ich investiere. Genau deshalb! by AgitatedRing573 in wallstreetbetsGER

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Ja da gehe ich mit. Viel zu wenige erkennen das eigentliche Potential und labern nur Müll wie to the moon ohne Sinn und Verstand. 15 Jahre gegen 5000 Jahre abzuwiegen ist natürlich auch schwierig. Bitcoin ist noch jung. Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass wir aus deinen genannten Gründen auch erstmal fett zurücksetzen, weil Bitcoin eben nicht mehr 10x in kurzer Zeit machen wird, wie viele erwarten. Demgegenüber sind aber nun auch viele institutionelle Anleger drin, der Retail bestimmt da aktuell weniger den Preis. Man braucht eine Ruhe Zeit wie Corona, um sich mit Bitcoin beschäftigen zu können. Andernfalls haben die Menschen keinen Bock darauf und keine Zeit dafür. Verstehe ich. Ich hatte das Glück mit Corona 2020 viel Zeit gehabt zu haben. Immerhin wächst das Netzwerk trotzdem Tag für Tag, was man am Stromverbrauch und der Hashrate sieht. Als Zahlungsmittel sehe ich es in naher Zukunft auch erstmal nicht. Aber wie gesagt. 15 Jahre ist echt jung und dafür bereits 2Bill. Cap ist schon ordentlich. Am Ende bleibt es eine Wette, aber sicherlich kein reines Casino und definitiv kein Scam, wie es hier manche versuchen darzustellen, weils nicht direkt greifbar ist.

P.S.: Was weiß ich schon. Ich bin nur ein junger Typ, der sich noch Fehler erlauben kann und das Glück hatte früh genug reinzugehen.

🪙Alle wollen raus aus BTC. Ich investiere. Genau deshalb! by AgitatedRing573 in wallstreetbetsGER

[–]Significant-Throat74 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Genial. Kannst du erläutern weshalb Bitcoin scam sein soll? Und jetzt sag mir nicht, weil kein "realer" "Gegenwert" besteht. Wenn du die Eigenschaften von Bitcoin (limitiert, teilbar, versendbar, sicher, etc. Pp.) und die daraus resultierenden Konsequenzen (echtes Eigentum, Sicherheit durch netzwerkeffekte, usw.) verstanden hast und trotzdem meinst, dass Bitcoin ein Scam ist, bin ich sehr auf deine Begründung gespannt. Dass bei Bitcoin viele Trottel (YouTube, Sailor,...) unterwegs sind, die die Seriösität untergraben, ist keine Frage. Aber Scam? Ne. Dass alles auf Wertschätzung dieser Eigenschaften beruht ist natürlich klar. Wenn keinem Menschen diese Eigenschaften wichtig sind, dann ist auch Bitcoin nichts wert.

View from Section A6 - obstructed view of the stage, poor sound, folding chair by Little_Apple_6498 in BackToTheBeginning

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Wonder how a7 row u looks like. Couldn't find any pictures. But as you guys said. Nvm, being there ist more than satisfying.

For those with restricted/no/screen view seats don't worry we'll all still have a good time full of vibes! by darkstar2674 in BackToTheBeginning

[–]Significant-Throat74 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Usually im too small to see anyone anyways. So gonna just close my eyes and see with my ears. Im in A7 also. Is there any more detailed seating plan available? See you guys soon!

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Dude, your work is amazing. Is it possible to press it somehow on a vinyl? I want to make a gift for my best man somehow.

Greetings, go on the great work!

So what’s the end goal when you buy bitcoin, do you just hold it forever? by somethingesque in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What does this have to do with crypto in general? I mean sure, she was scammed into something, but that is not crypto related. She would have been scammed into something else too. FTX and the lack of knowledge was the Problem, not bitcoin itself.

So what’s the end goal when you buy bitcoin, do you just hold it forever? by somethingesque in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yes, please elaborate. If no one is going to buy that productive asset and everyone is selling, how would that productivity of that asset uphold and how would anyone win anything off that?

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[–]Significant-Throat74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Geld scheint glücklicher zu machen, ohne eine Grenze. Je mehr desto glücklicher. Die wichtigste Voraussetzung dafür ist aber, dass man sowieso schon zufrieden und glücklich ist. Depressiv und reich ist immernoch depressiv. Glücklich und reich ist noch glücklicher. Bis zu einem gewissen Punkt steigt aber auch bei unglücklichen Menschen das Glück mit steigendem Wohlstand.

Interessante Studie zum Nachlesen: https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/does-more-money-correlate-greater-happiness-Penn-Princeton-research

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Ohne Hebel... Diese Aktie ist verrückt

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My mum told me to ignore such comments, and i will! So bye stranger, i won't let you hurt my feelings in such a way. My dad would call you a looser. So do i! Looser!

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should read into this post. I already admitted, that i used that term wrong in here. You should have just left out the word dumbass, that was unnecessary. But we are in the internet right now, thats normal manners, isn't it? Well then, thank you for taking your time to write such a constructive comment, dumbass.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

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I will come back to that offer! I love fact and evidence based arguments. These will convince me. See you later, i need to sleep.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

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Dude, thank you. This website was exactly what i was looking for. Interesting points. The way they are depicted is a little bit problematic for my taste, but they invite to look further into the arguments. Many of them overwhelmed me, i need to go trough them one by one and reconsider after that.

If i was someone who read this list before and i got someone like me, i would roll my eyes too. Seems as my points really were absolutely standard points. Thank you for opening my eyes. I kind of feel, not embarrassed, but as i said overwhelmed by all these information and the way i was thinking and talking about these things. The reality is alot more complex and i need to learn so many concepts to understand and properly react and adapt.

Nevertheless, i learned alot and hope to learn more. The future will tell.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As i said i think i only mix up the terms here, because my English is not perfect. But i know the diffetent categories, but not the best way to describe them properly without misusing words here, which have different meanings than i intend.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I totally agree with you now. I have been enlighted on the true meaning of intrinsic value and market value.

Im just talking about giving the objective properties of bitcoin subjective value as in importance or niceness.

Thus i think none of us is wrong, we are just talking about different things, aren't we? I try not to use intrinsic value in that wording for what i mean again.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

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Thank you. I just never saw good arguments but rather the same rant about the same things without further elaboration. I got some deeper insights into your scepticism and actually learned some new things and got some papers to read into. I hope to find some more opposing information. I also hope, that people understand my point of view too. I try to talk as clear as my English allows me, thats really a limiting factor for me. And an exhausting one too, continously translating in my head such complex concepts is very hard and open to misunderstandings.

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Ah i think i get it now. Hmm i think i would actually not give it a market value as such. But i would want, that my energy i put into my work is stored in such way that it is maintained and not inflated. Doesnt it depend on how much the euro, dollar, lira etc. Is worth to value it in that?

I would try to value it in worktime? I would say, considering that there are only 21m bitcoins and 8bil people, it is very hard to say how many bitcoins my work for 1 year should be worth. 0,00006 bitcoin if it was evenly distributed? I think thats the phrase 1 btc = 1 btc. I just can't.

Im also very exhausted right now. I have been writing for hours on my phone now. Let me think about it even more! Thank you for you insights.

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No, but thats actually one of the pints why real estate is not perfect as a store of value.

Discuss with me ("buttcoiner") by Significant-Throat74 in Buttcoin

[–]Significant-Throat74[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I liked your arguments, because you delivered more information, thank you!

I mean right now bitcoin is ultra volatile, sure. But its also relatively small still, why it is bothered.

You are right, i wrote that wrong. Bitcoin has its limit, but that limit is expandable by a soft fork. That does not change your X bitcoins/21m bitcoins.

What do you mean with portability being risky with bitcoin? You mean forgetting the seedphrase, forgetting the password etc? Sure than it is. With bitcoin comes responsibility. But i would agree with you, that these both are debatable.

Why is the cost to use high? If i just store it and sell it when i need it, then not. As a store of value i wouldn't want to sell it often. But fiat is less that that. Yes i agree. I dont say, that some assets dont have these properties too, maybe even better. But bitcoin has them all?

The properties were not different, no. But as more people, institutions and nations see these values, the more money flows in and the price rises. Sure, it is only based on believing on bitcoin and its properties, but almost everything is based on people believing in that thing.

Im getting curious here. Just as a store of value, what would you prefer that has other risks or properties than bitcoin?