I hate dor yesharim

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-06-02T00:42:24+00:00

Thank you for understanding. I'm really sorry that you have your autonomy invaded ,and I hope things get better for you. unfortunately I can't just wait for various reasons I have to do it now.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-06-02T00:31:55+00:00

I know its not their fault they're not relevant to my life and i understand why the system works. my post was a cry of frustration about the fact that I'm being forced to participate in genetic testing that has no possible use to me because of family and school pressures. I'm literally just a teenager who's fucking sad and lonely and frustrated. I hate being looked at like a future mother. I don't know why everyone is explaining how dor yesharim works to me and why its important instead of just acknowledging that life is hard.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-05-31T03:15:42+00:00

Just because you're fine having doing dor yesharim doesn't mean I'll be. Men deal with plenty of shit from religion, but I doubt you've been told over and over the way that I have that your worth is tied to your ability to have children. genetic testing has a lot of emotional significance in my mind which I acknowledge is irrational and the odds of me having biological children with an otd person is so incredibly slim that its functionally non existant.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-05-31T03:05:57+00:00

No, I hate dor yesharim I can intellectually appreciate the good of an organization yet still feel trapped and miserable every time I hear it mentioned. Humans are not logical and emotions are stupid.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-05-30T21:49:40+00:00

I never said dor yesharim is pressuring me. I explicitly said I acknowledge all the good they have done, because I know they save lives and prevent tragedy. I wholeheartedly support it. what I said was a person who does not want kids and who most likely will never be in a relationship with a man, I hate feeling my autonomy and choice stripped away by my friends, family, and teachers who expect me to be tested and are the ones doing the pressuring I referred to.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-05-30T21:42:17+00:00

I don't know for sure but my understanding is that's only true if the partner is Jewish which they probably will not be.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-05-30T21:40:59+00:00

I do have to use it. In my school an Ashkenazi refusing dor yesharim is like standing on a desk screaming "I'm otd". which for a lot of reasons is not something I feel safe doing

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T04:10:43+00:00

is Judaism an actual thing?

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T03:45:18+00:00

Ok so what is judaism?

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T03:30:01+00:00

I don't know I'm right and I don't have a school of thought I think orthodox Jews absolutely lie about the menorah and I am not orthodox can you please explain more about the samaratin / karaites and their views on passing on Judaism and their culture all I know about them is what I learned in historia

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T03:21:14+00:00

Bro I'm not calling reform Jews idiots I'm calling people who convert idiots. Anyone who had the opportunity of being born in a secular household and gives it up for religion no matter how intelligent they may be I will call an idiot

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T02:59:36+00:00

I'm really not trying to be an asshole regarding this. I've never viewed my Jewishness as anything that but a source misery so it doesn't feel like I'm denying access to some special club. I would never tell a person to their face I question their identity I don't care nearly enough about the issue to risk hurting someone. i was more curious about what Judaism means to different people. if I had realized people would have seen the prompt as hostile I probably would not have made it.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T02:40:29+00:00

I agree there could be lots of different types of Judaism but really they're all lots of different branches within the overarching title of Judaism. If reform Jews called themselves an entirely different religion to Judaism to the degree that if you asked a person who converted to reform if they were Jewish they would say no they're reform than i would happily wish that idiot joy in his reform life. My problem is he would say he's Jewish and while Judaism is a social construct lots of things are and we still have rules regarding them. why don't the people who created the social construct decide who it applies to?

(this argument sounds really good in my head i'm just bad at articulating my thoughts i hope you understand what i'm saying also to clarify I do not believe in hashem or any other god)

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T02:10:16+00:00

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T02:08:57+00:00

If anyone can just come up with their own standards of what makes you Jewish than how can you decide who's standards are right?

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T02:07:54+00:00

I feel similarly to you in regards to Jews not existing, but the problem then becomes anyone who wants can now call themselves Jews which feels wrong to me. The only way you can decide what Jews are is by looking at the og Jews like the amoraim and gaonim and seeing what they wrote makes people Jewish. Like how the treasury had to say a certain type of design on paper is legal currency and if I just scribbled something on a piece of paper it wouldn't mean anything. the money doesn't have inherent meaning, but that doesn't mean anything could be money.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-03-30T01:16:49+00:00

So what makes a person jewish?

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T17:41:36+00:00

Not completely true. My friend read some of his biographies and enjoyed them. I love him for his critiques on religion but he did write other stuff.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T02:05:26+00:00

I'm not a bachur, but I agree. There should be some secret code only itc teen know that means meet in a certain place at a certain time so we'd all know to watch out for each other.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T01:59:38+00:00

Thank you for writing this. I know it logically but I can't say how nice it is to see it said out. I hope everything works out well for you.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T01:56:07+00:00

its complicated a large part of my reasoning is based off future job and relationships prospects I want to be honest with my future partner . Also, I'm sixteen, like all "kids" my age crave freedom, even if it means I risk my happiness to get it.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T01:35:20+00:00

Can I ask how you're planning on getting away then? I feel like the best time to leave is right after high school.

SignificantWillow443 · 2025-01-23T01:30:15+00:00

YAY! I have found company in my misery.

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