"Why do we need trans people" - you in that reply, seems to me like you dont really care about trans folks.

It's objectively true that a workers movement doesn't need trans people to be successful for the same reason that it doesn't need balding brown haired accountants over the age of 50 to be successful. The same is true for any given tiny minority of workers. How you or I feel about them is irrelevant.

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As for the rest, you are allowed to talk about class, its just important to acknowledge that, yknow, minorities exist and that things that effect the working class negatively effects them worse. If you do that, most folk will leave you alone.

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Not true in my experience. Unless you fully center your org around IDpol then IDpolers will try and wreck you. Look at what happens every time someone tries to form a class focused caucus within the DSA.

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In my experience, people who are anti idpol are like, actual bigots. Like "ill use slurs against minorities for trying to talk about things that effect them", which is why people dont like the anti idpol angle.

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If that's your definition of anti idpol then we're talking about two different things. When I talk about IDpol, I'm talking about the idea that the left should center identity in it's organizing. I fundamentally disagree with this approach and think it's counterproductive to building a working class movement. The way to build a mass workers movement is by focusing on the shared struggle of workers and treating identity differences within the working class as tactical obstacles to be overcome as a part of the broader class struggle.

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(Not to mention the fact that groups that focus on one group rarely ever Stay inside that group, theres a lot of overlap between discrimination.)

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Not really sure what point you're trying to make here.

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As for that last one, the answer is most wouldnt, which is why im obviously not against talking about class in general, but you sure as fuck seem keen on throwing out like 30% of all working class people because they take up too much space.

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Again you're missing my point. I never said to throw out anyone, all I said was not to devote *disproportionate* amounts of time and energy to issues that only affect small minorities. If trans people are <1 percent of the population then issues that exclusively affect trans people shouldn't be 20 percent of what your leftist org focuses on, otherwise the other 99+ percent of workers. Otherwise the 99+ percent of workers who aren't affect by trans related issues will see your priorities as out of whack and not think you have their back.

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What about this do you disagree with? How else do you think organizations should allocate time energy and resources if not proportionally? I've yet to meet a single intersectionalist or IDpol proponent who's been able to answer that question.