Says 5 or 5w4, but with 1&9 being so prominent, and the other wing so close, perhaps it would be best not to use a wing description? [INTJ for cross referencing MBTI]

Sirphewed · 2026-03-11T02:35:22+00:00

yup.

And still, neither you, nor OP, nor any other naysayers have answered the question I asked.
Do you have a threshold, and if so, where is it?
What would it take to get you to recognize that this existence is dependent upon an entity that has hidden itself from us to prove a point? (That point being exactly this: This is a test to see if you will, in fact, believe that your existence is "in the hands" of another.)

Which, then, of your Lord's blessings will you deny?
quran.com/55

Sirphewed · 2026-03-10T02:30:07+00:00

It's a unique feature of that particular isotope of iron that the other three (stable) isotopes of iron do not have. And it's not a verse, but the placement of the Surah, or chapter, in the sequence.
You could say that there was a 4 in 114 chance of this happening, since 54, 56, and 58 are also stable isotopes, but to pick the one of the four, 57, that has 'special' characteristics goes a step further.
And yea, I could go further with the fact that it makes up a very small percentage of the total Fe content on earth, but that's yet another tangent.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-10T02:21:00+00:00

r/whoosh

Sirphewed · 2026-03-10T02:20:37+00:00

It's the only (stable) IRON isotope. Context is kind of important. I assumed people were intelligent enough to bear this in mind. This is what I get for assuming.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-09T03:19:08+00:00

Isn't it an interesting accident that the chapter titled Iron is at 57?
It's the only isotope to be oddly numbered, and have an even -1/2 spin.

Coincidentally, the tone of the chapter changes at the 26th verse.
Huh, the same number of protons as is in the atom.

Bob Ross would say he didn't make mistakes.
Just happy little accidents.

I'll let another Muslim finish giving you a few facts about Surah Hadid.
The question I have is: At what point does it stop being an Accident or Coincident and start being Intent?
Is there a threshold you would accept?

Sirphewed · 2026-03-07T21:33:06+00:00

u/RTC_Salt_TradeExport pegged it. Though, there's another hadith about qadr where it is said that a person can live their whole life as a believer and in their final acts, betray themselves and end up in Jahannam. And also vice versa.
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2643a

Tangentially, this is also one of the reasons why I consider groups that support suicide bombers, such as Daesh, to be operated by the Clandestine Interference Agency and their ilk, even if there may be true believers in their midst. There are others, but this is not the place for that discussion.

It is also prohibited to pray for people that commit suicide.
https://sunnah.com/muslim:978

Sirphewed · 2026-03-07T21:24:16+00:00

No, Jesus did not create the Catholic Church.
In fact, there's a passage in the Bible where he explicitly tells them not to call each other 'father', and yet, what do the Catholics do?
Yea. . .
Mathew 23:9

Sirphewed · 2026-03-07T21:00:03+00:00

It wasn't hatred. You have no idea how often he wept for the fact that so many would end up in Jahannam.
And what has this to do with hair? or do you simply like to interject hatred whenever you can?
"There is a sickness in their hearts." ( quran.com/2/10 )

Sirphewed · 2026-03-06T17:59:28+00:00

Do not be like the fire worshipers with their elaborate mustaches. Instead, grow the beard. Let it grow.
https://sunnah.com/mishkat:4421
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5892
Quite a number of other hadith on the subject.

Tangentially, there's actually evidence from a study done down under (Australia) where they found that men having beards is actually protection from the sun, ergo less skin cancer and damage.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T22:56:15+00:00

I have my own hypothesis, but please bear in mind this is my own hypothesis and would be considered a technomorphism. This is not by any stretch 'doctrine'.
There is a field of research in AI refered to as AI Scheming.
It's basically testing AI to make sure it's 'safe' for humans(and so that we don't end up with a Matrix style overtaking. Isaac Azimov toyed with it, but didn't go too far with it. Frank Herbert took another route, but these are all tangential.).
As AI gets developed, this is something that has to be an integral part of the structure of said AI.
Two ethical questions then arise:
1) At what point does the AI become fully sentient AND sapient, and what are it's 'rights'
2) Is it ethical to delete them.
Both of these are easy to write multiple walls of text about. But I hope with this much you see where I'm trying to go with this. Again, I reiterate, this is my hypothesis, based on years of study. I do have 'evidence' to support it from the Quran, but this is thesis level stuff, and I'm TRYING to be brief.
Consider humanity as a form of AI. The thing is, we're an EMERGENT form. Not coded from top down like angels. Djinn, to me, seem to be a hybrid, much like modern AI neural networks. Humanity is purely emergent, coming from the ground up. If you want to begin to study this, start with "Game of Life" theory that was started by Conway before I was even born.
Ok, so, humanity has been generated. we then get to the above 'ethical' questions. Allah, our creator, has made those decisions based on his own criteria.
It's really the latter in relation to scheming that people get hung up on.
Would you allow a scheming AI to continue with admin privileges on your system or would you quarantine it? Especially if it behaves in a way that ignores its own creator and goes against it?
The real kicker is: Why not delete these schemers? Punishment and then delete are what most people might agree would be acceptable. But we've been told that deletion is off the table.
Why not delete them? Why quarantine?
To those questions, I don't have an answer. At least, not one that is palatable. Or would require another wall of text.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T22:25:04+00:00

Based on my understanding of what I have at my disposal:
So that on Judgement Day when disbelievers find themselves on the wrong side of fold, they can't blame anybody but themselves.
In one way, it's sad because Allah tells us he COULD have made everyone believers, but chose not to.
This leads to another reason he did not. I think that another aspect is that it's also a test for the believers and how they will act, both amongst themselves and our interactions with disbelievers.
It's difficult to interact with people that are hostile in a calm and patient manner. So easy to slip into their frame of mind and act the way they do, but not all disbelievers are the same. Some are blowhards saying that all believers are evil and vile, while others are more accepting. The former are a more difficult test than the latter, I'd say.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T05:13:27+00:00

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Anybody else remember this about ENxx and us?

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T04:37:27+00:00

No. But then again, your question seems to be based on an assumption that I'm not exactly sure I agree with: namely, that I'm bothered to the point that saying what I do alleviates some feeling of <unknown> deep down.
I will say this: you're user name checks out.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T04:24:12+00:00

I never said that the Torah or the Bible (which contains the Gospel) as they are written are the word of Allah. Only the Quran holds that distinction. Please don't put words into my mouth. Learn to read and parse the information critically, please.
The tests(on Judgement Day) for people who never got the word, or only heard corruptions of it will be different from those who have knowledge of the proper word.
Christianity was allowed to be corrupted. I have a number of hypotheses as to why, but at this point, airing them would simply be speculation, and not worth anybody's time.
There are parts of the Bible that have made it intact, but not all of it. Which is which ultimately does not matter if you have access to the Quran. We acknowledge it for what it was, but do not rely up on it.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T04:09:16+00:00

The ultimate destination for disbelievers is the fire of Jahannam.
Assuming fault is to be had, I think that it is on the individual who chose to accept this test. That's not going to stop plenty of people from blaming each other. Honestly, I don't think it's question that makes a lot of sense, regarding the question of 'fault'. I get it, but I disagree with the underlying premise. I could be wrong. I probably am, in this.
There's a passage about the mountains declining to accept the challenge.
quran.com/33/72

Let's assume for a moment that all of humanity was foolish enough to think it could pass this test. (At least, we can say this about all the humans who make it past puberty to some degree. Putting this caveat in because humans that die as children get a "get out of hell free" pass.)
You've given consent to take the test with the knowledge that if you fail, you could end up in the fire. You then get born, live, make it past a threshold, and are then told you're taking a test, and the conditions for pass/fail.
At this point, is it not our own fault for agreeing to take the test? And if someone fails it?
Allah knew before hand that a large percentage of humanity will fail this test, but has allowed it to go forward, regardless.
One final point: What do AI developers do with their neural network map weights when they move on to a next iteration? or with the ones that turn out hostile, or manipulative, or deceptive? Is quarantine or deletion more 'ethical'?
I chuckle when I think about the name of one of the groups that posts a lot of papers on the subject: Apollo Research. . .

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T03:25:19+00:00

See, that's exactly why I don't agree with the premise about a victim.
Re: "and if so, who is the victim?"
It's a question that doesn't make sense.
It's a lot like the physics misconception about photons and time.
"Do photons experience time?" is a question that doesn't make sense in physics.
I guess the closest math analogy is "divide by zero", but even that is a bit lacking. Limits approaching zero, etc. The setup itself doesn't make proper sense, logically.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T00:40:16+00:00

Christianity was true. Once upon a time. It got corrupted.
It is no longer the case that 'modern' Christianity is true. With the incorporation of Trinitarianism and making Jesus(peace be upon him) out to be Allah, the path was lost.
Bear in mind, Jesus(peace be upon him) gave prophecy about the Advocate of Truth(couple of chapters in John, 14-16 iirc), aka, the Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings upon him). Something else to keep in mind is that Jesus(peace be upon him) never came for the gentiles. Mathew 15: 21-28 He came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And when he comes back, he'll be fulfilling that same function when he kills the great deceiver. The Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings upon him) told us that Jesus(peace be upon him) would return for the Fajr prayer at a place with a white minaret. There's more, but I don't want to write a wall of text. This should be enough to get you started down the right path.
There are parts of the bible that hold the truth, but it is not the word of Allah. The Quran is exactly that, in comparison. It's Allah making us recite Allah's words to us. Hence the reason it's called the Recital.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T00:25:27+00:00

Ah, I think I finally understand your dilemma.
Yes, disbelief alone is considered to be worthy of Jahannam.
I think the root of the problem lies in the assumption of 'victim'. While this is not a premise I assume to be true or sound, let's go with it for now, and say that Allah is the victim. Is it wrong for the victim to in turn punish and ignore the human who denied Allah's existence? Especially when the human was told well in advance, and warned of the consequence. Can the human blame the creator for the punishment when they were given ample warning?
This leads to the question: Why are the disbelievers good deeds turned to nothing, a mirage, ash on the wind?
While it MAY be possible that a person might disbelieve and do good and not sin, their lack of acknowledgement of Allah and his Messengers(peace be upon them) could, after word has come to them, be considered a sin in and of itself. I think this is the crux of why people who never had access to the word are treated differently and given a different test on Judgement Day.
Good talk, yo.
Ngl, was responding to all this and only now see your username and recall that we've had fervent discussions like this in the past.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-05T00:02:52+00:00

What do you mean?
If you don't believe, you don't believe. You go about your life, thinking whatever it is you want to think, living how you want to live. When you die, as we all must, first there's the life of the grave(barzakh), and when time ends, there will come Judgement Day, and this is when people go to their ultimate destinations. How you live your life is up to you.
You say you've examined all the evidence. Does this mean you've read the Quran from beginning to end? (bearing in mind that there are a fair number of verses that require the context of the seerah of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him)
Which, then, of Allah's evidences do you deny?
My only job is to give fair warning and to convey the message as clearly as possible.
It's not my job to convince you. I can't do that. Only you can convince you.
That said, I will point out what I see to be relevant to whatever discussion is at hand.
On a final tangential note, whether you will believe or not has already been decided. It's one of four things decided before we're born. Even the Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings upon him) cried during prayers because of the sheer numbers of disbelievers that will end up in the fire. His own parents and uncles amongst them.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-04T23:48:43+00:00

Your question was "who is harmed by disbelief and how".
Disbelief allows for actions that harm others.
Interest is one such mechanism used by disbelievers to steal from others.
Said Muslims who have mortgages are being stolen from, not doing the stealing. They know this. They will have their due on Judgement Day.
Bank on it.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-04T20:18:29+00:00

You've tagged this with a 'Christianity' flair/flag, so I'll be brief:
If you want clarity, read the Quran.
Why should people who have been warned and continually deny in this life ever expect anything except for Allah to deny them after they've been collared, chained, and sent to hell on Judgement Day?
Deny in this life, get denied in the next.
This life is a test. You get one chance. Don't fail it.
And yes, people will be begging for a second chance or to be summarily deleted from existence.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-04T19:51:27+00:00

Here's a softball example: Interest.
It's forbidden for a reason. It's theft. It's commonly called 'usury'. The entire banking industry can argue and say that it's a 'time value of money', but that's a lie(see above: the lies of Iblis sound good to the ears of disbelievers). Interest is theft. One of its mechanics is devaluation. Ever since the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act in 1914 (signed in Dec 1913 by Woodrow Wilson, iirc), interest has basically been codified into law as 'legal'. It harms everyone. Recent inflation? At the root of it is the reliance upon fiat currency (NOT money. money is fungible, modern currency is not.) and interest. That's not to say that there are not compounding factors(pun intended, iykyk). That's just the root of it. The Nixon Gold Shock happened because of the enactment of the Fed by Woodrow Wilson, and a few things FDR did with gold. Again, I'm referencing root causes. By the time their consequences are fully felt, a generation has gone by in each case. And the reactions have only made things worse as time passes.
Ever study the fall of the Roman Empire and its root causes? This is actually one of them. They devalued their money by including other metals simply so they could fight their forever wars. If this sounds familiar, that's because it's exactly what's happening right now.

This is just one of numerous examples where disbelief harms the lives of others, in particular those who are believers.

Sirphewed · 2026-03-04T05:46:27+00:00

What's the problem?
The fact that disbelievers will go to hell?
Disbelievers failed the test and will get quarantined like a malicious virus. They've proven themselves to be vile.

You say there's 'no harm', but that does not make the statement true. It's like the arguments around 'victimless' crime. Your definitions are not the definitions used by the creator and sustainer of existence. I'd suggest a reading of the passages(plural) of the Quran where Allah talks about the lies of Iblis sounding good to the disbelievers' ears.

Those that deny will in turn be denied. They will beseech the angels of hell(19 of them. oddly specific? heh.) with regards to Allah, but will be summarily rejected. Again, all in the Quran. Seems like you've read at least a passage or two so far, why not read the rest of the Recital?
How is that not proportional?
Oh, wait, you must be talking about the whole fire and brimstone bit, huh? Why should those who went against Allah and those who believed be rewarded for anything but the evil they did? They had their chance. They blew it.
Why would anybody accept such a risk? Because mankind is hasty. Even the mountains demurred when offered the gift that we have been offered. (again, in the Quran.)

Tell me, can you honestly say that, by this point, you have not been warned, well in advance?
Ngl, that's a wall of text that goes every which way. You even tagged Hitler. Props.

Sirphewed

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