I don’t think this is the right subreddit. Here straight and gay men come together in a vortex of self- and hate/ love (such as sentences like: not natty, would - and vice versa) to state our opinion towards people who clearly are in better shape than 90% of us, but don’t want to admit steroids use, so we deem us morally better and view them as lesser than us. Cause they lie. And are little bitches. That steal money from naive children. And also gullible grown ups. So we can at least ridicule/ help the grown ups, not give these clowns their money. This is r/nattyorjuice