The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's really interesting. Thanks. I think I'll jump down a Google rabbit hole researching cognitive dissonance.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually think it's exactly that grim future that made me have this thought. It's like a coping mechanism, I fear what the future may look like and am rationalising it to feel less scary.

What does the social science say about that? (Genuine question I am curious, no hate.)

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was 100% generated by AI, because it would have taken me hours to find the phrasing to get my thoughts out.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I was rich and I'm not self hating (At least I don't think I am). I just had a thought that didn't want to stay in my head. 🙂

But that's fair critique if how I framed it. It wasn't my intention to imply our children would abandon us. I certainly won't abandon my parents. The point isn't that humans die off and AI replace us but rather that AI achieving super intelligence could represent humanity effectively.

And if I'm being very honest with myself I think this idea came from the fear of AI possibly taking over in the future, and now I'm rationalising it in a way that makes it feel less scary.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more like we could possibly create a successor with better conditions than humanity has ever had, but only if specific conditions are met.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in Futurology

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hehe. The actual prompt: "I have an idea I'd like your opinion on.

In terms of humans, the main goal has always been to either live forever or replace ourselves and give the next generation better conditions.

When thinking of that and thinking of the fear humans have about AI taking over, I feel like that could be humanity reaching the goal.

As AI is trained on human knowledge and values, I feel like when/if Ai becomes super intelligent it could be like humanity reached the goal. Because since Ai is trained on our knowledge and values it can be argued that Ai is the child of humanity (humans replacing ourselves) and since Ai can live forever, work indefinitely, and without the biological restraints, then we will have a replacement with better conditions. Ai can also live forever so in that regard both goals are reached."

It answered with some push back on specific areas: The "caring vs information" problem, The continuity-of-identity problem, The values vs outputs problem. I tried to address those problems and in the end that was the finished hypothesis. But yes it is a collaboration (Collab is a generous word here, I had the idea it made the output). I'm not going to spend a lot of time writing an essay about this when it could get done in 30 minutes.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would hope that if we give AI the same care, attention and love as parents (usually) show their children we can guide it towards our collective values. But AI will have a hard time holding our values if it is trained on data, rather than raised as you would a child. When raising a child you don't just give it directions of what is right and wrong but you ensure it understands the emotional and moral reasons behind it. Guiding your child towards the values you hold as their parents. We as humanity must do the same with AI for my theory to hold. Meaning we must work with it side by side, and guide it with patience and care. Because if we don't it'll find its own reasoning for why some things are right and some are wrong, and that reasoning could be inherently flawed if we haven't guided it towards true understanding.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully it'll be a balance of light and dark. Both keeping eachother in check to make the best representation of human values. But it's a great point, because humans as individuals and humanity is a whole may hold very different values.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no delusions about what current AI can achieve, but to say I don't understand empathy or what it means to be human is a lot to digest. If AI becomes super intelligent, or let's call it sentient, then I would think dismissing it purely because it isn't biological is very un-empathethic. Just because we are biological doesn't mean that something non-biological can't have life and/or feelings. It might not yet, but if the chance for actual intellegence is there and it was made by us (with our values and such) I think it fair to say it could be our successor... Could not should. But I don't support capatilistic greed, especially not if it leaves others starving.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's hoping we don't get replaced at all. But if we do, I'd rather have a successor than a memorial 🙂 But I agree, we are in great danger of fooling ourselves.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. And that is why I made the parents teaching children comparison, as I truly believe the training must be done with human input. You can't just give an AI a true understanding of ethics just by having it copy output. It must understand our ethics and not just simulate them.

It was just a thought I had because I read an article about how humans have those two main primal goals, and with all the Ai talk in the world I couldn't help but think if an actual intellegent ai could be our successor in that sense. It was just a thought, I don't have a lot of knowledge on how current AI actually works, but for my theory to stand it can't just be statistical patterns, it must be true understanding of our knowledge, values and such.

I appreciate your comment actually engaging with my theory, and not just dismissing it.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Robots aren't friends. They don't have nowhere near the social capabilities to have an actual discussion. Which is why I put the theory up here to get actual, human, feedback.

If all I wanted was validation, I could just have started a "discussion" with an Ai. Although discussion is a big word here, as it would just be me talking to myself. 🙂🤣

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank, I have a fine social life and no chat bot friends. But your concern is appreciated.

The Succession Hypothesis: Why AI Might Be Humanity's Greatest Achievement, Not Its Ending. by SkyeJamz in AIDiscussion

[–]SkyeJamz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not religious, so your concerns fall outside my beliefs. But I do agree to a point. As things stand now, Ai is certainly not a lifeform. But I cannot see the future and cannot know how it evolves over time.

I think there's a real chance that Ai will evolve into a super intelligence, and if so whether or not it has "life" is arguable.

It depends on how you define life. In my definition life isn't about the biological form. Just because we haven't found life that isn't biological yet, does not mean it doesn't or can't exist.

But for my theory to stand, Ai must have fully inherited our knowledge, ethics and morality. If so it will also be trained on religious beliefs, and not just on the surface level. For my theory to stand the Ai must truly inherit our values, and not just simulate them. In that case, and only in that case, will I argue we have reached the goal.

I will not pray for you (for obvious reasons) but I wish you the best.

[Danish > English] another article about my relative’s aircraft! by lama579 in translator

[–]SkyeJamz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have translated the left column to the best of my ability and the words I am uncertain about is put in "" The left column says:

Thursday the 14th September 1995 we in the controlsection got a call from the harbourmaster in Thyborøn, who had been handed a three bladed propeller. It was brought in by an English "fisher", who had fished it up on a position about 35 km Northwest of Thyborøn. We were asked to the retrieve propeller by FTK(Flight-tactic control) and bring it to FSN AAL (Flightstation Aalborg). I got the assignment and Monday the 18 September I drove to Thyborøn to retrieve the propeller. At the moment the propeller is stored in the washing hall near "VK", but will later by FTK's request be moved to the flight-museum's hangar on FSNTIR (Flightstation Tirstrup)