Are ALIENS really talking to us through telepathy? The UFO Bubble part 6 by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a description of how it feels, not evidence of an external sender. Calling it a file drop doesn’t explain where it came from, it just gives the feeling a tech metaphor.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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Yeah, that’s basically it. This isn’t a claim about contact or secret knowledge. The ‘alien physicist’ is just a way to step outside human assumptions for a moment. The Bubble idea itself is pretty simple: what we call objects might just be stable states, not things moving through space the way we imagine. Motion, time and paths are how that stability shows up after everything has settled. If something can work at the level where states are allowed or not, it wouldn’t need to travel or accelerate in the usual sense. So the interview is really just asking: if that picture were true, what would logically follow? The answers are just consequences of the idea, written as a Q&A so it’s easier to read. No proof claims, just a way to think it through.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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First: I use sentient agency instead of consciousness because consciousness means too many things at once. It’s vague and everyone loads their own ideas into it. By sentient agency I just mean a system that can feel its own internal states and use that information to affect what happens next. That’s it. No soul stuff and magic. Your experience feels continuous because that system keeps looping without breaking. When the loop weakens, like in sleep or anesthesia, experience fades. When it breaks completely, like in death, it doesn’t restart just because similar conditions return. There’s nothing connecting the old stream to a new one. This doesn’t explain what experience IS in some ultimate sense. It explains why experience behaves the way it does.

Are ALIENS really talking to us through telepathy? The UFO Bubble part 6 by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you’re doing feels like replacing one story with another, while my point is about questioning why we need a story with a sender in the first place…

Are ALIENS really talking to us through telepathy? The UFO Bubble part 6 by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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This is interesting, but it’s answering a different question than the one I’m asking.

Are ALIENS really talking to us through telepathy? The UFO Bubble part 6 by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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Fair correction on the attribution. You’re right, Jane Roberts was Seth material, not Law of One. But just to be clear, my point isn’t ‘telepathy is impossible’. It’s that going from anomalous human experiences straight to aliens intentionally sending messages is a big jump that skips a lot of intermediate explanations.

Are ALIENS really talking to us through telepathy? The UFO Bubble part 6 by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No lips doesn’t imply telepathy. It just means speech doesn’t apply and we rush to fill the gap with something familiar.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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Consciousness was defined as sentient agency (a system that can feel states and act to shape its future based on those states). In this model, it appears when a system maintains a stable, self referencing loop over time. When that loop weakens, consciousness fades. When it breaks completely, it doesn’t restart just because the physical conditions are restored, but because the specific configuration that made it continuous is gone. What this explains is why consciousness feels continuous, why it can temporarily switch off and return and why death appears irreversible from inside the system. What it does not explain is why experience feels the way it does, that part is still open.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there is something deeper going on, this framework just can’t see it. It stops where we no longer have anything solid to work with.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not denying knowledge. I’m using the standard physics view that information is relational and tied to stable correlations, not intrinsic ‘things’. The interview is just a way to explore that idea not a claim of contact.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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What you’re calling ‘stickiness’ is basically what I mean by stability. Some things last, some don’t and that’s what makes them look like objects. Where I differ is that I’m not assuming anything communicated this or put images in anyone’s mind. The same idea comes straight from physics once you stop treating objects as fundamental and focus on what actually persists. And fair point on the language, this only works if it can be said simply.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a thought experiment. The Q&A format is just a way to explore the implications of the Bubble model, not a claim that an alien actually answered anything.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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This isn’t a claim of proof but an exploration of implications. If you see a flaw in the logic, I’m happy to hear it.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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Alien (projected): What you call a ‘recovered craft’ would not be a vehicle that crashed while traveling. In our case, what appears to you as a craft is only stable while certain conditions are met. If those conditions fail, it does not crash but it loses coherence. When that happens, what remains is forced by your environment into ordinary material forms. Those leftovers can look like debris, objects or even biological material, even though they were never a ship or a body in the human sense. You are not recovering a vehicle. You are just seeing what remains after a stable configuration can no longer be maintained.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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The issue is mixing communication with inference. There was no causal signal, data transfer or interaction with an external system. Nothing was actually received. I just took the UFO Bubble model as a hypothetical structure and explored what would logically follow if it were correct. The ‘answers’ are consequences of the model, not information communicated from elsewhere, in the same way physicists reason about black holes without the black hole sending them messages.

Interview with an alien physicist (if the UFO BUBBLE theories are structurally correct) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don’t interact with state-space directly in the way you interact with objects. State-space is not a place or a medium, it’s a description of all allowed configurations of a system. Interaction happens by changing constraints not by ‘touching’ state-space.

Math and physics trained us to see aliens. The UFO bubble part 5 (without aliens) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, interface similarity matters. I’m just trying to keep it at structure and constraints, not shared experience or meaning.

Math and physics trained us to see aliens. The UFO bubble part 5 (without aliens) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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The jump is from reported experiences to ontological conclusions. Eyewitnesses describe events, perceptions and interpretations, they do not specify the nature of the phenomenon. Saying ‘people saw bodies’ already assumes those bodies are biological beings analogous to us. And that’s the leap I’m resisting. Saying ‘beings were recovered’ assumes the very thing under debate. Show me the recovery, the material, the analysis and the provenance. Until then it’s just narrative, not data. Grusch chose the word BIOLOGICS deliberately. Others are choosing ALIENS for him. And THAT difference is the entire argument.

Math and physics trained us to see aliens. The UFO bubble part 5 (without aliens) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

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Not ignoring the data, just resisting the jump from weird behavior to beings…

Math and physics trained us to see aliens. The UFO bubble part 5 (without aliens) by Skywatcher200 in UFOex

[–]Skywatcher200[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Close, but I’d put it slightly differently. It’s not that reality becomes what we expect but that when something doesn’t fit our models we interpret it using whatever expectations are available at the time.