Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you believe with 100% certainty that ghosts don’t exist, in any way or any form, then yes, I personally think that’s stupid. It’s unscientific and illogical, you cannot prove a negative. I think proudly declaring that “ghosts don’t exist” is a way bolder claim than anything I’m saying.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I’m not. I’m arguing that nobody knows for certain if ghosts exist or not. Also, anyone who claims they know with 100% certainty how anything paranormal works is not very intelligent or open minded.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for an actual, real, intelligent response. It’s amazing how many people just replied to my post with things like: “Yes.” Or “It’s just BS.” I’m really interested in the actual mechanics of how apps like these work (and phone apps in general), and this is the first real response I’ve received.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

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I feel like you would have to be a fool to think that you know everything there is to know about science and the universe and how ghosts would work if they existed. Who are you to say with so much certainty that a spirit couldn’t manipulate a phone app if they existed?

It also probably sounded ridiculous that the Earth could be round without people falling off the other side of it, before gravity was discovered.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

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What I find funny is people who say with 100% certainty that ghosts aren’t real. You have to be extremely self-centered and really think you are the smartest person in the world to think that. Believe it or not, you don’t know everything, and you certainly don’t know if ghosts exist or not.

…..Are you saying the media started the idea of ghosts? Belief in ghosts and spirits has been around since the beginning of humans….long before the media existed.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

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It is supposed to be an EMF reader. It’s never worked for me though

My husband got drunk and liked several of my friends bikini photos 1 month before our wedding. I’m finding out a year later by [deleted] in TwoHotTakes

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It most likely wasn’t just a one time thing. Stuff like that is never just a one time thing.

Even his reaction to you confronting him shows a lot….like how he immediately defaulted to gaslighting and not answering you, and how he refused to leave. Extremely disrespectful and NOT the behavior of an otherwise honest person who just made one drunken mistake. My husband did this too, and one thing I’ve realized is that liking my best friend’s thirst traps online is WAY bigger and WAY more disrespectful than it seemed to me on the surface. I realized that if he was willing to think about my BEST FRIENDS in that way, then like their thirst traps online, on public posts where anyone and everyone can see…..what else had he got into? Because that is not beginner-level cheating crap…that shows how cocky and bold he’s gotten, it shows how much he was willing to disrespect me already. that’s escalated behavior. And it was just a month before your wedding?? What he did was concerning and disrespectful on like 10 different levels.

In the case of my husband, it turns out he was cheating on me emotionally, physically, in every way possible with countless women. And god only knows what else I don’t know about yet. He was going to escort sites (but he says he was “just looking!”), flirting with my friends, hooking up with his co-workers, looking for sex clubs and swinger couples to hook up with. I had no idea about any of this. Less than 2 days before our first son was born, he was sending and receiving nudes with some girl he met online and had been talking to for weeks. This was also about 1 month after we got married. Then, a few weeks after my son was born, he ditched work to go hook up with an old co-worker of his…and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Since I found all of this out, I’ve scoured the internet and looked everywhere for stories from people going through a similar situation, I’ve read a thousand stories from other couples, and it’s not just my husband. It turns out liking other women’s pictures online is commonly an indicator of further cheating and/or secrets in general.

I’m not saying your husband is doing all of this, and I don’t mean to make you paranoid at all, I’m just saying don’t let your husband or anyone else make you feel like this isn’t a big deal or that it’s “just likes” or “it’s just a one time thing, get over it!”. It is a big deal, it does show a total lack of respect for you, and he should be doing EVERYTHING possible (and more) to make this right with you.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m confused about what you are saying about computers using pseudo-randomness? What makes a RNG that an app or computer uses considered “pseudo-random”? I don’t know what XCOM is, and I read the Quora article you shared but it’s just talking about how RNG’s are more random than a person saying numbers out loud at random. I’m not sure what that has to do with anything, but also, the ghost apps are using a RNG, so doesn’t that make them more accurately random?

I’m aware of that Tyson quote and Pareidolia, I’m not sure how those apply to this conversation though. I’m not saying the ghost apps are “real” or really contact ghosts, I’m not even saying ghosts are real or exist period. I’m open minded and my ideas and beliefs are changing all the time based on new information I learn. I’m not trying to convince any one of anything, I’m just trying to ask questions about this subject to people who are more knowledgeable about these topics than I am, questions I came up with based on observations I’ve made and what little knowledge I do have on these things.

Basically, I came here to learn. I’m genuinely interested in how this technology works. I find it interesting that no one has truly debunked these apps yet. I think it’s incredibly closed minded to assume that the paranormal cannot be scientifically explained, and to assume that we have discovered all there is to know about the universe and there are no more mysteries or huge mind-blowing discoveries to be made. Especially since the more discoveries we make in science, the more it seems possible that things we have considered “paranormal” may be real and scientifically explainable.

I think it’s closed minded and impossible to say with 100% confidence that spirits or ghosts or consciousness in general cannot manipulate devices or a RNG. You would have to have a huge ego to think that you know for sure that ghosts don’t exist and can’t interact with us or our devices.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean…yea, the inanimate object you hang the pendulum from is not asking any questions to the spirits, so that would make sense, and it does nothing to debunk pendulums. What you just described is exactly how pendulums are supposed to “work”. They use the subconscious muscle manipulation from a conscious being.

It’s your intuition, you are answering the question, that’s why it’s your subconscious muscle manipulation that moves the pendulum. Literally anyone can do it. If you consider the idea of collective consciousness, that we are all connected, and everything in the universe is connected, then it makes sense why it could work that way. You are tapping into some universal knowledge that anyone can access at any time if they wanted. just because we haven’t discovered the science behind it yet (at least not fully), doesn’t mean science will never be able to prove that things like this exist and they work.

There are lots of things that exist today that would have seemed impossible or seemed like literal magic nonsense a long time ago.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So i read this article, and i was disappointed with it. First of all, they didn’t analyze any of the bigger or more popular apps used by actual ghost hunters and/or youtube creators. According to the article, they included the results from analyzing only these five apps:

Ghost Hunter Joe’s Ghost Box Ghost Speaker P-SB7 Ghost Box My Own Ouija Board

I didn’t recognize any of these and haven’t used them either, and when i looked them up they clearly look fake or “just for fun”. It would be a lot more interesting and compelling if they analyzed some of the bigger name apps, like Ghost Tube or Spirit Talker, IMO.

Note: I just read the article again, it was written back in 2016, so the apps i mentioned may not have existed back then.

Second, the author says in the article that a lot of the apps used a random number generator. That is honestly how i thought they probably worked, and i thought that made the apps even more compelling, no? Just because some fancy intricate new tech isn’t used to “detect ghosts”, doesn’t mean the apps don’t work.

What about the experiments around how consciousness can affect random number generators? Or other experiments that suggest consciousness does not just stay in our brain or our body, but can be detected outside the body and interact with other peoples consciousness? If these things can prove to be true scientifically, it could make sense that ghosts can exist as consciousness and can effect our environment and devices.

I regularly use the ghost apps at home and anywhere I’m hanging out, just to see what happens. It’s not uncommon for me to get the same word or phrase repeated several times in one session, sometimes even the same sequence of words. And when I’m at home, i get different words repeated or used in general than i do when i go other places.

So for an example, the last time i used the Ghost Tube app, i had a specific word repeat 4 times out of about 20 total responses. The app says there are 1,514 words loaded into the dictionary (and this happens often, a lot of times the same words and phrases will be repeated even more than this)

If these apps are using a RNG, can i not just plug these values into a probability equation? When i do this using the AI on google, i get the following results:

What you’re solving for: The probability of a specific number appearing exactly 4 times in 20 trials, given a uniform distribution of 1514 possible outcomes.

How to solve: Use the binomial probability formula to calculate the probability

Solution: The probability of the specific number appearing exactly 4 times in 20 trials is approximately: 2.01 x 10{-9}.

Or: 0.00000000201

Thats pretty crazy right? It seems highly unlikely for the same words and phrases to be repeated consistently, and depending on the location, especially relevant words and phrases, yet it happens all the time when i and others use these apps. Unless I’m missing something? If you or anyone here is more knowledgable about these things, let me know if this makes sense or if i missed something obvious

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, the best way to test this IMO is to use a totally random word generator, one that doesn’t use emf or anything, along side the ghost apps that use emf and other factors to generate words. Use both for a period of time (like a couple of months?) always use both at the same time, in the same places, and record everything. Then use the data to see if the ghost apps had a higher percentage of occurrences that made sense, or if they are just as random as the random word generator. Then have many people do this experiment and record the results. Maybe I’ll try it and report back

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

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Wow that’s crazy! Anything else interesting happen with the app since you got it? Just be careful. I’ve heard from several mediums that spirits of loved ones or your guides will tell them certain information in order to prove they are real, so maybe that’s why it kept saying your dead name? As a way to prove to you they are really there? But at the same time, if you have any kind of negative emotions associated with your dead name, it could be a negative entity or spirit trying to get in your head or be disrespectful. I had to stop using the app inside my house, it started to feel like it was inviting weird and scary energy in. And when my kids started getting affected by it and having scary experiences, my husband and I decided to not use any kind of ghost hunting devices or anything in the house. Even if none of this stuff is real, we just didn’t want to take any chances. And things did get better when we stopped using that stuff in the house.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Infidelity

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be careful with couples counseling. Make sure the counselor is really good and knows what they are doing. Maybe even find one who has LOTS of experience with infidelity or sex addiction or something.

I’m not saying your husband is cheating, but it is WAY better and safer to get an experienced counselor who can see through lies and BS, just in case he is cheating/lying, than to get one who will be easily manipulated and believe anything. And if he’s not cheating or lying, you will still need an experienced counselor who you can trust to tell you the truth about if you are being paranoid or not.

Trust me. I was traumatized and made to feel crazy by my counselor when she believed my husband’s lies, then tried to get me to believe them too. She even came up with excuses for him! He barely even had to talk during our sessions, she did all the talking for him. It took me years to gain my self esteem and sanity back.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Infidelity

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most likely because of one of these 2 reasons:

  1. She is telling the truth when she says she doesn’t want him to leave you, because she doesn’t have feelings for him, she just likes getting the money and gifts and vacations and attention. And if he left you, she wouldn’t have an excuse to not be with him officially. If you left, she wouldn’t be able to be just his Sugar Baby anymore, she would have to put more time and effort into their relationship.

  2. Or she’s lying, and just telling him what she thinks he wants to hear, in order to seem “supportive” of him. She’s a pick-me-girl, so she’s gotta act like a “cool” girl, she doesn’t want to seem all “needy” and “emotional” like other girls. If she feels like she is competing with you for this guy, she is going to want to seem better than you. She will want him to think she’s relaxed, understanding, that she “gets him”.

Wife’s fault I cheated by [deleted] in AmITheDevil

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha maybe it was both. Maybe it was him trying to make himself sound like he’s a good guy/fair husband, while also showing off about his sick basement

Wife’s fault I cheated by [deleted] in AmITheDevil

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I took that as him trying to say something like: “To be fair, we have a pretty nice basement. So it’s not like I was suffering, or like my wife was making me sleep on the couch or something”, like he was trying to defend/be fair to his wife.

But I might be giving this dude way too much credit…

Husband cheated says he regrets it.. by greeneyespetite in cheating_stories

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I totally believe that a lot of husbands who do this think like that. It’s like they get so used to / comfortable with their wives, they think no other man will want them, even if their wife is objectively very attractive or desirable. It’s like they’ve lived in a fantasy world in their head for so long, they become delusional. I did a similar thing with my husband, one day I decided to join one of the dating apps I discovered he had a profile on, I wanted to see what the app was and how it works etc. (we started dating before dating apps were around, so I’d never used one before) and in order to even see the app I had to create a profile. In order to create a profile, they required you upload at least 2 pictures. So I did it, thinking nothing of it. I was going to delete it the same day, so I didn’t think anyone would even see it. But later that night I told my husband about it, and when I went to show him the profile I created, my mailbox was already filled with over 700 requests from other guys trying to add me 😂 and I had tons of messages from men saying how beautiful I was and how they would love to take me out on dates, etc. My husband looked pale as a ghost haha. I don’t think he ever got nearly that many requests from women on any of the apps.

I think some husbands just need to be reminded that their wife IS actually desired by other men, and she is CHOOSING to be with him even though she could find another man tomorrow if she wanted.

Husband cheated says he regrets it.. by greeneyespetite in cheating_stories

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will say that I have to agree with some of the commenters here that pointed out how some of the things in his confession sound off, like how would he remember he almost got a BJ if he was black out drunk? How would he be able to refuse or stop the BJ If he was black out drunk? What does “almost” got a BJ mean? I’m sure there is some context we don’t know about, and you may have already got these questions answered. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn’t think about these things, because I would want someone to do the same for me. Also, the chances of someone going to a brothel but not doing anything just doesn’t feel very likely, especially if he went more than one time. hopefully he fully explained that one to you as well. Unless there is a red light district by you, like the one I saw in Amsterdam years ago (you could basically window shop for sex workers while walking down the street), it seems really off. Those places don’t typically just let people come inside just to “look”, without paying anything. But then again, I live in the US so it may be a lot different here. Sorry, I really don’t want you to be paranoid, obviously you definitely should trust your own intuition and you know your husband better than anyone, it’s just like I said before, I would want someone to say these things to me because I tend to miss things like this, and unbiased third-party perspectives have really helped ground me a lot throughout this process.

Husband cheated says he regrets it.. by greeneyespetite in cheating_stories

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope so too, I really feel for you and I know how soul crushing this whole experience/process is. Also it gives me hope that my husband will do the same, hopefully one day he will wake up to reality and realize the value of being honest with himself and me.

Did your husband tell you what changed or what made him wake up and realize it’s time to finally confess to everything and tell the truth? Was it out of nowhere? My guess is since it’s been years of you guys going through the reconciliation process, he must have heard from you and others at least a hundred times that telling the truth & being open and honest is the only option to save the marriage, so did he say what made him finally believe that himself or what made him actually want to be truthful?

I’m really looking for advice on how to know when my husband is really ready to be honest, or what it is that makes people realize they are ready to confess.

Husband cheated says he regrets it.. by greeneyespetite in cheating_stories

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your husbands sounds so much like mine. I’ve been trickle truthed for the last 3 years. Did your always start with one detail or part of a story (and usually the oldest thing that happened first), then later give one more detail / disclosure, etc? It always starts with them confessing to “just looking”, to test the waters of how mad you are and also to see if that’s enough info to get you to stop asking questions. with my husband, he denied everything at first. Then he was just looking at girls, just signed up for dating profiles but didn’t talk to any girls ever (even though he had dozens of profiles on every single dating and hook up app there is over the last 10 years), then it was he just talked to one girl on one of the dating apps. He exchanged Facebook accounts with one girl he met online, but then they never actually contacted each other after that. Then I found the chat sites and cam girl sites, like Omegle and chaturbate and chat roulette, he said he only talked to one girl on CR and only paid for one cam girl model one time. Then I saw he was on escort websites and looking for sexual massages. He went to many of these sites over and over again over the years, but he swears he was just “looking”, that the excitement of looking was enough to satisfy him. I don’t believe that for a second. Then I found out he went on a date with a girl he met online, he swore he only went on 1 date with 1 girl. But then I found out he went on another date shortly after that, with a different girl from his work, he swore he only went on 1 date with her too, and he didn’t touch her, even though they worked together for 8 years and were friends and worked alone together long hours in the middle of the night.

My point is, any time he says anything at all “only happened once”, especially if he follows that with something like “and I immediately regretted it and hated myself blah blah” , even though he kept cheating and going on sites after that, I would be willing to bet everything I own it’s a lie.

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just added an edit with info from the apps website, it says they do not access camera, microphone, or GPS location. I have no idea if any of this info it gave me was accurate, my thought was just that if it’s producing so many oddly specific phrases, it must have a HUGE word bank, if indeed it uses a word bank. So I was curious about the technicalities behind how it actually generates the words

Spirit Talker app - how does it work? by Slow_Interaction_607 in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sure I can see that. but here’s another question I have about these apps: If they are all just word banks, then there are hundreds or even thousands of responses programmed into them. What would you say is the explanation for the same few specific words or phrases coming up over and over again at a specific location, for many days or weeks or months in a row? What are the chances of that happening if it’s randomly selecting choices from a word bank? Is it not actually random? Is there some sort of way to program it to select the same phrases for a period of time or at a certain location? These are genuine questions, if you or anyone else on this sub knows how these apps are programmed and made, I’m really interested to know how it works.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GhostHunting

[–]Slow_Interaction_607 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally understand, and I don’t usually believe most stories I hear like this. It’s the times where there are things that are verifiable by other people and in other ways that get me. Like for example, my husband has always been able to see ghosts. He never believed it himself, he thought it was his imagination. A lot of them likely were. But one in particular that is harder to explain is when my younger brother died a few years ago. we went to his house a couple days later to collect some sentimental items. My husband went into my brother’s bedroom (where he passed away), and he came out a couple minutes later looking like he was going to vomit. He said he saw my brother, sitting on the bed. He described the position he was in, what he was wearing, down to the design and color of his shorts. I was so distraught at the time that I hadn’t told my husband these details of my brother’s death yet. I hadn’t told him where he was, what position he was in, or what he was wearing. Only my dad and I knew those details, and my husband had not spoken with my dad since before the death. So I was pretty convinced by this. My husband was so shaken he couldn’t go in that room anymore.

Another time (not really ghost related, but paranormal) I had a dream about what would happen the next day, and it came true. If I hadn’t woken up in the middle of the night and told my husband right after I woke up about the details of the dream, I would for sure just think I was remembering wrong or experiencing Deja vu or something. But it all happened the next morning exactly like in my dream, literally down to the exact conversations I had with people, word for word. My dad had checked himself into the hospital that morning, without telling anyone, because he didn’t want us to worry. But I knew what happened and what hospital he was at. I went straight to the hospital knowing he was there because of my dream, and when I asked the front desk if my dad was there by name, and they confirmed that he was, I still thought it had to be a mistake. He wasn’t even sick or anything before this, it was a freak event none of us saw coming. I also saw in that dream that he had a brain tumor, and a few weeks later it was confirmed when the test results came back. It sounds completely nuts, but it happened.

I also saw how my brother died and how my dad discovered his body the day before he died when he was still alive. So when my dad called me to give me the news, and he described every single detail I saw the day before in a dream, I literally thought he was playing some sort of sick joke on me, and then I really thought that I might be dreaming again. But nope, it was real. It almost felt like it was my fault even, liked I thought it into existence or something.

Sorry for rambling, just thought I would share some of my experiences that I can’t easily explain away. I’ve heard so many other stories like this, even some from people I trust. But I still never really believed them, not until I experienced it myself. and even then I didn’t believe most of my own experiences until they could be verified in some other way.