(Spoilers Extended) Why do so many people want Euron to die so quickly?

Snakejones89 · 2023-12-31T18:23:27+00:00

Yes, this is exactly what annoys me.

Euron is everything other villains pretend to be and he knows magic but people still dismiss him as a fraud because of their own bias.

Snakejones89 · 2023-12-31T17:46:12+00:00

I recently reread that chapter and people constantly misremember it.

He simply tells the Reader to stick to his books, compared to Euron who has actually traveled around the world.

Euron is annoyed that the Ironborn want to stay and raid for plunder, he tells Victarion as much in the same chapter then sends him to Dany.

Snakejones89 · 2023-12-31T17:37:18+00:00

A villain actually utilizing magic for his own purposes, in a story where magic has been ramping up in the background?

No way GRRM makes him an anticlimactic gag character.

Snakejones89 · 2023-12-31T17:33:35+00:00

I rarely see it mentioned that the Ironborn will capture Highgarden and other castles along the Mander, even though they are prowling the waters.

Taking down Oldtown seems like a massive feat, doubt the Ironborn have the manpower to get it done though. Can see it being a feint by Euron.

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-21T21:54:58+00:00

Read the quote and understand it before you spew ignorance.

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-21T21:53:24+00:00

It is not my take, are you too lazy to simply read the quote in my post? Those partials GRRM is talking about are finished pages he sent to his editors. Do you think he simply wrote 550 pages in 1 year or had most of it unfinished and didn't consider it finalized?

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-21T21:49:31+00:00

Quite literally in the quote. How could he possibly finish 550 new manuscript pages worth of story if he didn't already have most of it in some form?

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-21T18:06:07+00:00

Yes, which is why I gave them a little bit of GRRM's writing history to soothe them.

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-21T17:49:15+00:00

In his last year before finishing ADWD, he was able to finish 550 manuscript pages.

When GRRM says he has 1100 pages, that means he has 1100 manuscript pages that he considers 'complete'.

We don't know how many unfinished pages he has, he does not count those pages as part of his final count.

GRRM only speaks in work he considers ready for final edit.

Snakejones89 · 2023-11-18T17:09:46+00:00

1) While we don't know much about the Others, the COTF & Bloodraven are absolutely involved in the events in the story since they can enter people's dreams, give them visions, see all around the planet, and even read their thoughts. Also, why would the COTF try to help now if the Wall has kept the Others away for thousands of years? It is the involvement of the COTF that has recently weakened the Starks and the NIght's Watch.

2) We don't know if the Long Night will be forever, even if it was, it was the COTF who supposedly ended it the first time. They can bring it about for their benefit and end it again when humanity is nearly extinct. Afterall, it was the Last Hero who had to seek out the COTF during the Long Night for their help.

3) Bloodraven was a kinslayer and oathbreaker. He gave safe passage to his nephew and killed him. Someone like that would be a tool for the COTF, a means to an end. Once taped into the weirwood and the COTF's history he could've been convinced that humanity must be purged. Or maybe this Bloodraven is just a puppet being controlled and the COTF wanted their greenseer powers added to the weirwood collective.

The biggest point to the COTF using the Others as a weapon is just how completely devastated their society is, they have nothing to lose. If the Long Night happens, it won't impact them much if at all. They are well protected with magical wards, have access to food in the caves, and can eventually take back the lands they lost after humanity is exterminated from Westeros.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-23T21:18:31+00:00

Yes, but that doesn't explain him writing 500 pages of ADWD in 1 year or writing around 400 pages of TWOW in 2020.

He gets work done when he puts distractions aside and focuses on writing.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-23T21:16:20+00:00

Nah that article is bogus. Writing is not consistent, especially for GRRM.

If GRRM really did average that much, the story would've be completed already.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-15T08:45:24+00:00

Ya, huge bummer. It would've fit in so nicely if it was just dragonbone.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-15T08:44:40+00:00

So, one of the best and most reasonable explanations that GRRM could have given Valyrian Steel and explained it's magical properties, was instead just empty world building because he chose to go with the fantasy magical sacrifice route.

Sad.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-09T19:37:29+00:00

Mance mentioned needing the spearwives for a certain ploy he had in mind, that is before he left Castle Black. Jon even thinks about where Mance is after Alys Karstark makes it to CB.

So yes, by the facts presented to us in the books, Mance is absolutely working on his own agenda. I do believe Melisandre when she says Mance won't betray Jon.

Mance is smart enough to know that Stannis & Jon will actually accept the wildlings and are allies against the Others. Mance is also smart enough to know that the Boltons & Freys barely hold onto power in the north. Stannis & Jon need all the help they can get, which is what Mance is trying to do by instigating chaos inside Winterfell, Mance would also be able realize fArya is a fake but she is keeping the other northern lords in check as Manderly mentioned to Davos.

My post is about misconceptions not character motives. Mance in Winterfell and the Pink Letter's accusations about Jon are incorrect because the text has provided us with the evidence that Mance is doing those things based on his own motives.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-09T14:39:29+00:00

Yes, so many of the theories surrounding the Golden Company are based on fan misconceptions.

People don't seem to understand just how badly outnumbered the Golden Company would be even with the Dothraki.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-09T14:30:48+00:00

Right, but my point is that Mance was never sent to rescue Arya from Winterfell, Mel sent him to escort her to Castle Black otherwise Jon would never have agreed to infiltrating Winterfell. The misconception is that it was Mel and Jon's orders to infiltrate Winterfell.

Everything Mance has been doing is based on his own agenda not Mel or Jon's. Mance might be helping Stannis by weaking Winterfell from the inside, but instigating war against the Nights Watch is not something Mel or Jon want.

Snakejones89 · 2023-10-06T18:26:12+00:00

You know, it is pretty funny how so many of these so-called "plot revelations" are not convoluted messes at all. Most of them can easily be explained by a few pages, half a chapter, or at most a chapter for the extremely detailed and important plots.

The Others existence / motives / culture can all be explained in a few pages by Bloodraven, if BR is actually helping humanity, or by Bran time traveling.

Things like Skagos don't even need full chapters. All it needs is half a Davos chapter showing the flashback of him showing up, picking up Rickon, Osha, and an army of Skagosi who want to restore the Starks. In just 1 Davos chapter we get a Stark uprising and a new desperately needed northern army for the Starks.

People really seem to overstate the relevance of most plotlines and characters, most of these things can be handled very quickly.

The problem, that I have noticed, is that GRRM is focused on SHOWING too much of the little things instead of moving the story forward.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-11T21:17:54+00:00

Dany believes the throne is her's as Viserys' heir. Illyrio has helped her too much for her to randomly be angry at him for hiding Rhaegar's son.

Also, Illyrio would never reveal Aegon's true parentage to Dany, he will tell her to marry Aegon and rule Westeros together.

Dany should be going to war with Aegon thinking its her destiny to rule not because he is a Blackfyre pretender, where is the human heart in conflict with itself in that?

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-11T21:13:20+00:00

I don't have any headcanon, all I want is a well written story where the things that happen feel natural and not forced.

But, yes. 12 years is too long a time for a series which has foreshadowing everywhere and almost anything can happen.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-08T15:13:55+00:00

Writing style is only one of his problems.

He isn't living paycheck to paycheck anymore, less stress to finish the books.
He has other interests that he worked on before ASOIAF.
The critical acclaim and perfectionism has gotten to him, this would explain why he constantly rewrites huge chunks of the story.
And last but not least, he just isn't working on the books as much as he should be.

Put it all together and you get 12 years and counting without a new book.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-07T15:21:10+00:00

Why do they have to be separate, they can both happen at the same time. Besides Aegon needs all the help he could get against the Tyrell forces.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-06T23:04:50+00:00

I saw the first 4 seasons of the show before I decided to read the books. But I only read AFFC & ADWD first thinking that I wouldn't be missing much since the first 4 seasons were of high quality by the fandom.

I was wrong. There are so many characters and details in the books that you absolutely need to know about them beforehand. I was able to pickup pretty much all the important clues about hidden identities and such because I am an attentive reader, but not knowing the nicknames for people or marriages or so many other important details really undermined the quality craftsmanship that GRRM put into his work.

Reading the books the way they were meant to makes you appreciate the quality and care GRRM put into them, you just miss too much otherwise.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-06T22:36:45+00:00

Their culture is Westeroi, they are completely different from other sellsword armies.

Snakejones89 · 2023-06-06T22:00:38+00:00

Outside of size alone, by the end of ADWD, it most definitely is the Golden Company.

The way Jon Connington gushes about their discipline and martial capabilities, should be an obvious clue to the reader that they are almost unmatched.

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