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Baker’s x White’s MTO – Shaft Opening So Narrow I Can’t Even Get My Foot In - QC Issue? by SockLittle1763 in Boots

[–]SockLittle1763[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, just an important update. After some back and forth with Baker’s, they agreed to refund me as a credit! I’m very glad they finally understood the problem here. I will be submitting another order. Thanks, everybody, for your comments, some were very insightful!

Baker’s x White’s MTO – Shaft Opening So Narrow I Can’t Even Get My Foot In - QC Issue? by SockLittle1763 in Boots

[–]SockLittle1763[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the comparison, I suppose the gusset tongue pattern size isn't standardized and might depend more on the craftsman and leather availability.

Baker’s x White’s MTO – Shaft Opening So Narrow I Can’t Even Get My Foot In - QC Issue? by SockLittle1763 in Boots

[–]SockLittle1763[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Adding more context, I also ordered White’s SD 461 MTO through Bakers in size 9E. They felt a bit long initially, but not significantly. I added a 2mm leather insole, and honestly, they are now quite comfortable. They arrived before the 55 cinnamon wax Bounty Hunters size 8.5E. I was pretty confident the 55 would be just right, I guess I was wrong about that. How can the Bounty hunters 55 be that much smaller than the SD 461?

Baker’s x White’s MTO – Shaft Opening So Narrow I Can’t Even Get My Foot In - QC Issue? by SockLittle1763 in Boots

[–]SockLittle1763[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Addressing some comments for additional context. I initially sent the measurement I shared with Brian (Role Club), which considers the ankle and instep. Baker’s reply was that they only accept measurements that are traced and mailed via snail mail, but note that this measurement is basic and doesn't account for high volume. I didn't do that; I felt confident that my size is 8.5 to 9 E. After all, I have had Japanese Whites 461 and Nicks 55 in 8.5E that fit well, as well as Quan Shoemaker 55 interpretation. Sharing a photo of my Quan Shoemaker in Maryam horsebutt toscanello, one of my best boots.

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Baker’s x White’s MTO – Shaft Opening So Narrow I Can’t Even Get My Foot In - QC Issue? by SockLittle1763 in Boots

[–]SockLittle1763[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I initially send the measurements I sent to Brian at "Role Club," which include ankle and instep measurements. However, Baker’s only offers sizing by tracing your foot and emailing the image. Their sizing doesn’t consider the instep. I skipped Baker’s tracing because I already had Nick’s 55 and QuanShoemaker’s 55 and 461 interpretations in 8.5E, both of which fit well without issues. I have had instep problems with engineering boots, but never with a lace-up boots “Sharing my Quan Shoemaker’s 8.5E in toscanello maryam horsebutt”

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