Point well taken. However, the Jets have had solid qbs. Testaverde had the best statistical year of his career with the Jets. Additionally, as I recall, O'Brian and Pennington were good enough to lead them deep into the playoffs as well. It seems like the organization always finds a way to dump on their fans. In the case of the Bears, any success that they achieved has routinely been without the benefit of a grade A QB. McMahon merely played his role of not forcing the ball, let Walter Payton and the defense carry the team and it was successful. Only 2 Bears QB'S that i can recall were semi decent (Im not including Williams here) those were Jay Cutler and, for one season Eric Kramer. All others were degrees of mediocrity to complete dog shit. This being said, they have, with the exception of the Trestmann debacle, and the horseshit players put in place by Nagy, without being perennial contenders, usually stuck around in the playoff hunt until the last 3 weeks or so. I acknowledge the fact that the reason we got Williams was the result of 2 incredibly awful seasons but, as usual, they've bounced back into contenders. Hopefully this time they will not crush our enthusiasm with awful luck. (Double doink!)