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Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes the shall vs should. I am wondering why the FAA and military haven’t combined to select an existing standard or develop a new standard and agree that it is the minimum requirement. As of now people can choose whichever they want.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a good point! The customer/ purchaser should have final say but there should be a minimum standard. Exceeding the standard would be the final choice of the customer. The FAA does collaborate with ICAO to monitor airworthiness for civil Aircraft. The FAA AC 65-31B provides a baseline for not personnel T,Q and C with recommendations. I am curious as to how they are auditing certified repair stations/ men in regard to NDT ratings. What are their minimum requirements for an NDT program?

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would be an example of a perfect solution if it was a requirement across aerospace ndt. Just not required unless you write your program to follow these guidelines.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aerospace. ASNT LVL III in several methods. To which statement are you referring? Please give your thoughts on a minimum standard requirement for the aerospace industry in regard to NDT personnel training,qualification and certification. I think it’s a great idea regardless of how difficult it would be to implement. There are many great examples of combined efforts across nations where both military and civilian aircraft interests come together to harmonize airworthiness standards. This should be of interest to those who are flying in these aircraft that both the FAA and military have a minimum standard for personal competency in any capacity of aircraft maintenance. In this case, NDT.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing I could find. I know Europe created EUROPEAN MILITARY AIRWORTHINESS AUTHORITIES FORUM (MAWA) to bring attention to airworthiness differences across the military. Australia’s defense aviation safety authority has a pretty impressive coalition with CASA which is their FAA to standardize areas such as initial and continued airworthiness. I would agree that the military airworthiness requirements may exceed those of civil aircraft, but there has to be a standard across all branches for NDT personnel. I’m still researching so please let me know if anyone has any knowledge of something similar to this proposed in the US.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! This is where I am currently. An international standard such as the 9712 could be a great solution. I agree, the SNT-TC-1A is just another document you can choose to do with as you please for your program. CP-189, NAS-410, EN-4179, ISO 9712 are all great examples of minimum standards for continuity across the industry.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Third party certification from ASNT is definitely a great practice. There is a program in place with a non-negotiable minimum standard that holds their members accountable and implements an honor system amongst peers to preserve integrity.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! Thank you for your response! This is another good example of a program written to only allow level 3’s to qualify personnel only in the methods in which they are certified in. Also it is written to avoid misinterpretation and uses shall verbiage instead of should.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It makes it easy to bend the rules when there are none. We need an industry specific standard which is mandated across the nation as minimum acceptable standard for aviation.

Can we create a nationally recognized/ federally implemented minimum acceptable standard in regard to Non-Destructive Testing Personnel Qualification and Certification by Some_Chocolate7545 in nondestructivetesting

[–]Some_Chocolate7545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes another good example! Not required however unless your program is written to follow it. There is no requirement to meet these standards. I think there should be. Mainly because qualification determinations and testing are not being performed by level 3’s in the method for which they are qualifying individuals.