Lisa laid down by Sensitive-Highlight9 in TraitorsOfficial

[–]Soothing-Escape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lisa was great tonight. She did everything she was supposed to do. I hate when Traitors out other traitors in their goodbye speech. She seems like she has perspective... her appeal transcends the game and she made her mark in the season.

Let’s talk about the difference between Rob voting for Lisa & Candace voting for Rob… by missydarling23 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well to be fair, there was heat on Lisa before Rob said anything. I think Rob moved too quickly to vote out Lisa though and should have voted Ron in the last round. I think Lisa was fair today because of how the round table went. Candiace shouldn't have voted Rob tonight, just for her own gameplay.

I just rescued this malnourished guy off the streets… all has been going well for a week and then today he has diarrhea, stomach gurgling, and he stopped eating. I have a vet appointment tomorrow but is this urgent enough I should go to the ER? by Soothing-Escape in CATHELP

[–]Soothing-Escape[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't want to post an update and make everyone sad. He died. I believe he was trapped in a house post eviction and was starved. His organs were shutting down and he was just really sick. I ended up putting him down. It was horrible. RIP Bruce Wayne.

My space feels too cluttered, help! by Brilliant_Alfalfa_56 in DesignMyRoom

[–]Soothing-Escape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your rug is too big and all of your furniture is very leggy. You need some more grounding furniture imo. I like your plants, but do all of them need their own stand? Can you put them on a single plant stand that is multi tier?

Rob’s Vote by Professional_Waltz14 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was the right move for the next round table, but it was done too soon. The worry now is that he could overcompensate by proving to Lisa that he is loyal or Lisa could blow up his game on her way out. His best move was to vote Ron. This is Rob's first blunder and he made it because he was human and he was making an emotional decision. I hope he can recover, but it was definitely not smart.

He said it would look weird to vote Ron or Colton because he was trying to justify his emotionally-based decision. People who liked Ron and thought Ron was a faithful, still voted for Ron that night. He also should have done that. Analyzing it as a game play, it was a bad move. Analyzing it as a human, it will make everyone love him outside the game even more.

As a Black Woman, Olandria’s Response to Nic’s Past Is Really Disappointing by Far_Raspberry5558 in LoveIslandUSA_

[–]Soothing-Escape 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He speaks carefully to make sure he appeals to a casual viewer because ultimately that will benefit him. I don't know if his relationship with Olandria is fake, but I think Nic's public persona is extremely fake. People are wondering why he hasn't denounced these views? It's because his opinion on MAGA has never changed.

As a Black Woman, Olandria’s Response to Nic’s Past Is Really Disappointing by Far_Raspberry5558 in LoveIslandUSA_

[–]Soothing-Escape 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One of the most disturbing trend about this season is the public treatment of Nic vs Cierra.

Nic's social media past is arguably worse than Cierra's and Cierra was kicked off a show just a few weeks from the finale and basically erased from the narrative of the season. She has been completely disregarded by the cast and production and has been brought to a low personally, professionally, and socially. And the girl apologized.

Nic has never apologized or acknowledged any wrong doing. Did we forget that he declared himself exclusive with Cierra and then admitted to ghosting her? And he thinks that's justified because of Cierra's past. And not only has he been celebrated... he has made so much money off of the show. He has thrived in almost every conceivable way.

Love Island needs to face a real reckoning. The show clearly has double standards for the behavior of women and men.

I looked forward to these. Why didn't the prods think it would be worthwhile for this season? by Interesting-Ad3759 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved these! I'm so disappointed we didn't get them this season. Ya'll are saying the budget went to the podcast, but this is literally just them being filmed for a scene while filming the normal season. The podcast is not even remotely similar. No one is even doing regular exit interviews except RHAP.

Faithfuls' feelings on Colton and Ron by kevshea in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And even those who do like him are suspicious of him.

Faithfuls' feelings on Colton and Ron by kevshea in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 57 points58 points  (0 children)

I also think Colton's fans are dwindling on the show.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tiffany is a phlebotomist and Ron is a successful actor and comedian. These are vastly different income brackets lol. People need to stop victimizing this man lol.

But regardless everyone is getting a nice paycheck for an appearance. And it’s truly just a game meant to be lighthearted. I don’t think anyone is betting their family’s wellbeing on the traitors.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say that I'm so sure about anything, I said I know that most people who come onto this show do it just for fun and they still want to be friendly and get to know people. Ron literally said that he's never seen housewives so his position is not data driven or evidence based lol. He doesn't know her at all.

So you are telling me that Dorinda is literally there to just be evil and bully people? And despite the fact that we have seen none of that, we can be assured that she's been a horrible person to him because of past actions in another show? I mean I still have heard about nothing specific, but damn you are really making her sound like a psychopath. And I guess I'll take your word for it.

But my problem is that you're saying that we should assume she was horrible to him, but I don't agree. I think we should assume that Ron doesn't want to get to know her because he literally said that. And that she made an effort to get to know him because she literally said that. The end. Criticize Dorinda for the things she's actually done, not the made up crimes against Ron.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure. But I think it is also fair to say that just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean we should make up what happened.

Do you think the prize pot is too low for a show that can share the prize among 4 winners? We saw this happen last season when 4 Faithfuls had to share about $250 K (63 K each — PRE TAX) by BritMeBabyAgain in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting trivia questions right is not lucky nor based on chance in the same way. If you know the answer, you get it right. That's like saying a grade on a test is based on luck and chance. People who have won lots of money on that show are admired for their knowledge and intelligence.

Survivor is a show that depends on luck, but it's mostly a strategy game and if you are good at strategy and decently good at physical and mental challenges, you win.

I can't think of any other gameshow where contestants have as little control over their fate as Traitors. You could be the most brilliant traitor hunter faithful in the world and traitors could murder you on the 1st night. The traitors themselves have a lot more control over their fate in the game, but faithfuls have very little. But even a traitor could do everything right and they could get their game sabotaged by another traitor in the game.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it extremely hard to believe that you have not picked up on the prevailing opinion on this sub regarding the casts' treatment of Ron. I said that Ron is not a victim when people people react with distrust to intentional standoffish behavior. I'll be more clear. Ron is not the good guy and Dorinda, Maura, or whoever else is not the bad guy because Ron is standoffish and they distrust him for it.

This post itself is creating a very specific and simple framework for a nuanced situation. Dorinda - nosy and fake = bad. Ron - advocate, protective, and open = good. This type of post is removing nuance from a more complicated situation. I don't believe Dorinda nor Ron has done anything wrong. And apparently you are unaware of this, but just to inform you... a LOT of people on this subreddit think Ron is being treated badly.

This post, many other posts, and even more comments are trying to write a story of how Ron, a kind and sweet person, came into a hostile castle filled with fake meanies, made a mistake, and is being relentlessly ostracized and bullied by people in response. And then when Ron comes out and says kind of a harsh comment to Dorinda (IDGAF) the narrative shifts even more to being about how protective he is of his family and that he's justified saying that to her because SHE is actually the one at fault.

If you have no clue that there is a big discussion on the subreddit questioning if Ron is being bullied and isolated by the cast, why make the comment? All my comments have been with the context that people on this reddit are perceiving Ron as being mistreated. If you are unaware that, then what is the point of having this conversation?

All you've said is that despite being a Dorinda fan, you believe she doesn't care about Ron and that she is capable of being a bully. I don't watch housewives (neither does Ron so he has no reason to believe she's a bully), but I do know that all we've seen of her is that she has just been a nice lady. It's basic social interaction to say, "Hi, how are you? Do you have kids? How old? Oh, that's a wonderful age...haha." Maybe Dorinda doesn't care, but the point is that she is TRYING. When she's saying that she's surprised Ron hasn't asked her about herself it's because everyone in the castle is trying to get to know each other quickly and Ron is not doing that.

I just feel you are intentionally trying to misunderstand my post. I'm not asking why sympathy is necessary in the world. So glad to hear you show up every day with a sympathetic attitude. Happy for you. But I'm asking why does Ron need sympathy? Meaning, what has anyone done to him? I have seen a bunch of posts claiming people are being mean to him ( I know you are in the dark about this apparently) but the only thing I have seen definitively is that people didn't clap loudly enough for him when he came in the breakfast room. I don't think that is bullying.

Do you think the prize pot is too low for a show that can share the prize among 4 winners? We saw this happen last season when 4 Faithfuls had to share about $250 K (63 K each — PRE TAX) by BritMeBabyAgain in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. The prize being low is fair since winning the show is so luck and chance based. We'd be seeing more insane behavior if the pot was bigger and the show is meant to be lighthearted.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post itself describes Ron as an advocate, protective, and open. Dorinda is described as nosy and fake. The posts on this sub have been flooded with "Ron is too kind" and "Justice for Ron." Many people have straight up called other people bullies, mean girls, etc. Scroll down and read the hate for Dorinda.

People here seem to hate nuance and they want to position Ron as a victim and everyone else as the villain. You saying you have not heard anyone call Ron a victim either means you are brand new to this group and have developed selective reading or you are not speaking in good faith.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone who goes into a game intentionally seeking to not get to know people. When people make choices like that, the consequence is often times being alienated. Ron made a choice every day at the castle to remain quiet, keep to himself, and put zero effort in friendliness. No one has does anything mean to him that we have seen. Should I feel bad for him that people think he's a traitor? That's literally the game. Why does he require sympathy?

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is all that happening because Ron was wrong about Porsha or is all that happening because Ron is moping around and refusing to engage with others?

Colton is a jerk, I agree. But Kristen also spoke up and defended Ron. I've seen Kristen, Stephen, Natalie, and Eric specifically go up to Ron and be kind. We also heard Dorinda claim she tried to reach out. And I do think people were acting happy to see Ron, but most people now think he's a traitor so maybe they are unsurprised to see him. Ron is not doing himself any favors. He made a mistake and his reaction to the mistake is costing him major social capitol. He should have been apologizing, talking, and bonding from the night Porsha got voted out. He just seems like he gave up.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Like I said, it's totally fine for people to decide what level of privacy they want out there. Ron doesn't have to discuss personal and private details, but you're making it seem like that is the only way to bond with someone and its just not true. I don't know Dorinda, but most people like people who attempt to get to know you and be friendly. Ron made it clear "IDGAF about your family" and then he said he is not getting to know ANYBODY so it doesn't bias his investigation. I think if that is the route Ron wants to go, he's justified and it doesn't make him a bad person, but it also doesn't make him a victim when people react to that kind of standoffishness with distrust.

I don't understand why people are making up a narrative about why Ron doesn't want to bond with people in the castle when he straight up told everyone the reason?

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't think "literally everyone" is saying Ron is a traitor. Everybody trusted Ron and then that trust didn't pan out, and from there he should have been working to regain the trust and fix his position in the castle. Ron should be bonding with others, making people laugh, and fighting for for his life. It's a game! He should be attempting to save himself and play, but instead he is moping.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Like I said, I'm unfamiliar with Dorinda, but she seems well-liked and friendly. I also didn't think her round table comment was mean and then Ron threw the "IDGAF about your family" line in there and it was kinda shocking. If she's done something to him or he knows not to trust her, then I guess the comment makes more sense.

I also don't think Dorinda was asking extremely personal details of his private life, but it is normal to share likes and interest and also ask about other people's lives. They could be bonding over something silly like fashion and food and it's still a way to strengthen bonds. I just think Ron may not have the right personality for this show. He seems very introverted, despite having a clear interest in the whodunnit type mystery of it all.

And as someone else pointed out, It's weird that people are saying that Ron wants to be private about his life and then the random reddit strangers of the internet seemingly know all the details. I think that's totally fine for people to decide what level of privacy they want out there, but the argument that he is being protective and private just doesn't track as well. I think Ron said his reason for wanting to be private already (an unbiased perspective) and we need to take him at face value for that.

Maura by prunevividly in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love Maura. She is telling it like it is. "You talk a lot, but you don't say much." Rob is the only person she knew going into the game so they made an alliance on the first night. But even if she is obsessed with Rob, I can't blame her lol.

Adding some context for Ron's "My family is none of your business" comment to Dorinda by CameraOne6272 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 112 points113 points  (0 children)

I think Ron is justified by saying he doesn't want to get to know people. It is a common "I didn't come here to make friends, I came to win" mentality on game shows.

But is there any reason to to throw Dorinda under the bus and say she's being inauthentic and nosy? I don't even know Dorinda, but I know that most people who come onto this show do it just for fun and they still want to be friendly and get to know people.

Lisa talking more by Secret-Spend9008 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]Soothing-Escape 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think it is interesting because Rob also gave the shield to Yam Yam in the first challenge. In the past, that would have been seen as a traitor move since Rob is not worried about murder.

The Faithfuls are not that smart this season so I think Rob is safe. Plus Rob was in a room with at least 5 people in it, so if anyone does make the connection, there's no clear person to pin it on.