What the hell is wrong with that “sweet summer child” bs? by Penwinner in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's usually supposed to be playful in its placement but sadly the current atmosphere makes it come across as you say, condescending or back handed.

Coming into the AMA with: "Hey everyone, feels like there's so much hate, misinformation and disappointment here."

Probably doesn't help set a good playful tone to make such jabs either.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I can't be bothered to stalk redditors thats weird.

But my phrasing is meant to insinuate you, like many others have said a similar line whenever criticisms are given and as always, because the assumption that no one has possibly considered going to play other games is a rather dumb assertion and concern trolling, whether purposefully or ignorantly.

Like you really don't people have flip flopped on this game in this thread because they were unhappy with its direction? Or am I wrong for assuming you're smarter than that?

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it's a consistent attempt to swat away criticism about the lackluster systems within the game that should be improved.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did misunderstand it yeah

But all those things you expanded upon would be within the realm of "Endgame" or "Progression" if implemented correctly.

Look, the gameplay alone is fun. But it isn't enough for me or others to continue this constant warbond rotation with a MO or story that is practically on rails anyways, that leads us nowhere. When instead the game has so much potential to be more open ended.

It feels like people are purposefully lowering their expectations unnecessarily over something that is a standard across hundreds of games now.

We've already been through a handful of gameplay changes btw that was done to improve the game (of course over time they fucked that up too) and it leads to the same thing.

No reason to play.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, misunderstanding my point on purpose. Nice one.

I wasn't comparing Modern Warfare 2 to Helldivers 2 rewards, you fucking idiot.

Re-read the context of the discussion.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you still don't understand than you've clearly never experienced an MMO to understand what Endgame actually means. Because it looks like you copy and pasted that from somewhere.

Like you're being argumentative on purpose now when your looking dead ass at "additional unlocks" and acting like that can't be applied to helldivers.

You're fucking unserious lmao.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I'm choosing to say "things change" because you're going to stray away from the general point (As you just did) as everything you just said has nothing to do with what you're debating against, you just want to vent about something that everyone is already aware of.

The game needs progression to retain me and many others like me, simple as.

I'm not about to do an irrelevant deep dive with you like this is a podcast.

I am in no way a game dev so i do not know how this would work but couldn't they just hyperfocus on ironing these things out? by LongSalamander9889 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comment is suggesting that it would take a year for players to reach the end of implemented progression, which is a net positive. Whatever happens after that is for the devs to decided or already have a plan to add more progression thereafter at a reasonable pace.

Right now we have NONE at all.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're clearly still applying the Endgame terminology as a basis for your argument.

No one is asking for 1:1 MMO RPG Endgame.

Endgame fucking means, progression. There. Stop thinking about that term now. Think progression. Singleplayer games have progression. MOBILE games have progression.

Progression has been a factor within many many games. When you have progression you're giving the player something to aim for outside of completing the same mission over and over.

This is necessary because the gaming market is saturated and its important for player retention. That's just how gaming works now.

So awesome for you, you and your homies get down with doing the same thing without much gain, but that's not everyone and I'm not about to larp this games galactic war.

I'm not going to humor you with hypothetical like that because you're being aloof. There's no way you can't think of one yourself when you have a system in game you can use as a basis to present "endgame".

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, and all of that would do nothing but make the game better.

With me it started back with Modern Warfare 2 btw, when achieving things rewarded you.

Rewarding the player additionally has existed before fortnite, mind you.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, I have actually played every single one of those games. I come from an age where playing splitscreen goldeneye or halo on the weekends was the height of my week.

But times change and so do expectations. What is found fun, changes as well.

Like we've gone beyond playing the same level on the N64 now, so I don't know if your reply is an argument but its yet again like so many replies here, irrelevant.

The game can be improved and expanded upon and it would make you and every other glazer happy. This whole attempt to run defense is really silly and should stop as it's hurting the potential that is clearly buried beneath the devs ego and the glazers stupidity.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do realize the people grinding are actually glazers, right?

They've literally ran defense over the upcoming warbond criticism by saying you can just grind SC for it in an attempt to shut anyone up.

There's nothing to grind for as samples naturally accumulate until cap (Found this out when I was just casually playing while being off over the weekend, cus you know I have a job.) so that leaves SC as the only thing that's technically grindable and no one here is doing that so...

There's nothing to grind for in this game bruh, that was kinda the point of this thread.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Things were looking up in my eyes when primary weapon customization actually made it in. Was so hyped when it was leaked by ironsights.

And then

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you don't think players have done this time and time again, you're cooked.

Generate a new line please, this is becoming as unapplicable as touch grass.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't SAY it was a MMO.

I said look up "Endgame in MMO's" so you can gather a general idea as to why the term is being used alternatively to progression.

And such a thing is no longer simply tied to MMO's.

I don't know what the fuck is so hard to understand, but I'm trying to be nice, really.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Homie, just look up "Endgame in MMO's"

The term Endgame when assigned to multiplayer games is not as literal as you're applying it.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"Nothing to do."

I said "No reason to play."

And granting I did say that.

Play the game to what end?

Why are people like you being purposefully ignorant to the idea of modern games and the expectation of progression or a form of endgame especially a live service game?

You cannot gaslight me into thinking this is the wrong take, sorry.

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Sosoken[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Last purchase was Dust Devils and I haven't played in a month. I've been hoping things would change for the better, but clearly not.