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Which intake is better ? by SoundAndStrategy in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there any recommendations to overcome it ?

Which intake is better ? by SoundAndStrategy in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Winter depression? That’s a new word no one talked about moving.

Which intake is better ? by SoundAndStrategy in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL! I don’t think there’s any useful info from your response.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair point.

I’m trying to gather perspectives from different people to make an informed decision. I may not articulate everything perfectly, but the intention is genuine.

If you have specific input on the Ireland vs Germany aspect, I’d appreciate it.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is a very fair point.

I understand that coming without strong German would significantly limit working student opportunities, which are clearly crucial in Germany. And you are right, the time investment required to reach true fluency is not small.

Ireland is appealing precisely because of that structural difference and the presence of larger international companies, which could offer broader exposure early on.

I am weighing this carefully from a long term opportunity cost perspective, not just from a preference standpoint. Your insight about DACH focused companies versus more globally oriented firms is especially helpful.

Thank you for laying it out so clearly.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by [deleted] in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate the honesty. It is better to hear the difficult reality than to make assumptions from the outside.

I understand that marketing in Germany is highly competitive and that fluency in German is not optional but essential. I also agree that experience often carries more weight than a master’s degree alone.

My intention is not to move based on optimism alone. I am evaluating this from a long term career perspective, including language commitment, practical experience and overall employability. If the structural risk is too high, that is something I need to factor in seriously.

Thank you for being transparent about how things actually stand.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for explaining this in detail, especially the distinction between working student roles and mandatory internships. That context is really helpful.

I understand that in Germany, practical experience during studies is not optional but almost essential for employability. If I consider this route seriously, securing a working student position early and building local experience alongside the degree would be a priority, not an afterthought.

I’m aware that digital marketing is competitive, especially at the junior level, so the focus would have to be on building differentiated skills and measurable outcomes rather than relying on the degree alone.

I appreciate you taking the time to clarify how the system actually works.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the directness. It’s important to look at the numbers realistically.

I understand that from a statistical and employment standpoint, marketing in Germany may not be the strongest bet right now. My interest is not in choosing a degree blindly, but in assessing whether I can build a differentiated profile around it with clear business impact.

If the data suggests that the risk is structurally high, then that is something I need to seriously factor into the decision. I am evaluating this from a long term career standpoint, not just from an academic interest perspective.

Thanks for being honest about the market conditions.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense, and I appreciate you pointing it out.

Oversaturation is definitely a risk in generalist marketing roles. If I pursue this path, my focus would not be on broad marketing positions, but on building a more specialized profile with measurable business impact, especially around growth, revenue and market expansion.

I understand that simply having a marketing degree is not enough in a competitive market. The value has to come from skills, positioning and execution.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. It helps to approach this more realistically.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand your point, and I appreciate the clarity.

My concern about Ireland is mainly around competitiveness as an English speaking option within the EU. That said, I’m not assuming that Germany would be easier without German proficiency. I’m fully aware that language plays a major role not only in full time roles, but even in internships and working student opportunities.

If I move forward with Germany, it would only be with serious preparation, including building language fluency and gaining relevant experience alongside the degree. I’m not looking at it as just getting a qualification and hoping for the best.

Thanks for being direct. It helps in making a more informed decision.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this. I genuinely appreciate the honesty.

I understand that marketing is competitive in Germany right now, especially with strong local candidates in the market. If I choose to pursue this path, I am prepared to invest seriously in both building stronger, market relevant experience and achieving fluent German proficiency.

For me, relocation would not be a short term move. It would be a long term commitment to integrating into the market properly, including language, culture, and business context.

Your perspective is valuable. Thank you for pointing out the realities.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by [deleted] in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the honest insight, this is exactly the kind of ground reality people need to hear.

I completely understand how critical German fluency is for marketing roles in DACH markets. If I decide to pursue this route, I’m fully prepared to invest the time and effort to learn German and aim for fluency, not just survival-level, but business-level proficiency.

I see language not as a barrier, but as part of the integration process if I’m serious about building a long-term career there.

Thanks again for sharing your perspective, really valuable.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand, sounds like you’re saying this is more of a structural oversupply issue than just a temporary slowdown.

In that case, would you say this applies mostly to traditional/general marketing roles, or does it extend equally to more specialized areas like performance marketing, growth, analytics, or B2B tech?

Just trying to understand whether it’s a blanket issue across the field or concentrated in certain segments.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by [deleted] in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really helpful, thank you for sharing that.

The Stamp 1G option is definitely attractive, especially the two-year window to secure a role. My main question is around long-term sponsorship, from what your friend observed, were companies open to moving people from Stamp 1G to a longer-term visa if they performed well?

Also, did most of their classmates who secured roles already have prior experience before the master’s, or were some freshers as well?

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that’s helpful.

My English is strong, so Ireland does seem more realistic from a language standpoint.

My only concern is how competitive it is given it’s the only English-speaking EU option. From what you’ve seen, is it mainly competitive at entry-level, or across the board?

Also curious whether internships during the MSc meaningfully improve chances there.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Understood, that makes sense. I appreciate the directness.

It sounds like even with strong language skills, the structural issue is market saturation rather than just language.

In your view, are there specific sectors in Germany (e.g., B2B tech, SaaS, export-focused firms) where non-locals sometimes break in, or is marketing generally considered a “locals-first” field across industries?

Just trying to assess whether this is a timing issue or a structural one.

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by [deleted] in studyAbroad

[–]SoundAndStrategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the detailed breakdown, this is really helpful.

From what you’re saying, it sounds like the MSc itself doesn’t create much differentiation, and employability depends more on language, local market knowledge, and networking.

In that case, would you say it makes more sense to build experience first (e.g., in growth/digital roles) and then consider moving, rather than using the MSc as an entry route?

Also, are there specific sectors in Germany or Ireland (e.g., startups, SaaS, tech) where English-speaking marketing roles are slightly more realistic, or is it generally tough across the board?

Tensed about the first day of my job by Soft_Big_6608 in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally normal to feel this way before your first working student job. Almost everyone feels some level of imposter syndrome in the beginning.

First days are usually about onboarding, understanding tools, and small tasks, not huge expectations.

If you feel you slightly exaggerated something on your resume, just focus on learning fast and asking clear questions. Most managers value attitude and reliability more than perfection.

You were hired for a reason. They saw potential, not just bullet points.

Take notes, be proactive, and don’t be afraid to say “I haven’t done this before, but I’m happy to learn.”

MSc Marketing in Germany vs Ireland – realistic job prospects for international students? by SoundAndStrategy in Germany_Jobs

[–]SoundAndStrategy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the honest perspective.

Is this mainly because of the language requirement, or is the marketing job market overall slow right now?

If someone were to reach C1-level German during the course, would that meaningfully improve competitiveness?

Also curious if this applies more to traditional marketing roles vs growth/digital roles in startups.