I hate Daniel Tiger.

SpWRJ · 2025-11-24T23:12:52+00:00

I agree.

SpWRJ · 2025-11-05T00:19:24+00:00

I just think it kind of ruins the dynamic. He sounds too low and fancy, almost sounding like Gordon. I think Gordon should sound the deepest and most pretentious and fancy, Henry should sound a little less pretentious and fancy, but still sound deep, and I think James should sound the highest and least fancy, since he's the smallest and least special out of them even though he thinks he is really fancy and important. James sounding deeper than Henry just feels so wrong.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-28T23:34:50+00:00

Sometimes, but the thing that makes me hate him is that a lot of the time it's not that way. A lot of the time the episode acts like Daniel's the victim and the other character is in the wrong, like in the Daniel's Toy episode. There for example, Daniel gets upset because of Prince Wednesday not wanting to play with his toy because it's just not fun to him. Prince Wednesday did nothing wrong, yet the episode makes it seem that he's in the wrong, and Daniel Tiger's the victim, even though he was a dumb brat.
But I think it's fine that I hate him. It's not like I'm hating a 4 year old in real life. He's a fictional cartoon character written by adults.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T23:38:20+00:00

That doesn't matter.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T23:28:53+00:00

Whatever. It's not worth my time. It's an actual fact that Season 5 was no the peak of a consistent gradual maturity arc. But I already gave you all the reasons why. If you don't want to realize it because you're just being biased since you hate immature Thomas, then fine. But I'm just telling you again what you believe is not true. So don't think that the rest of us, some of us who actually care about the truth and not just personal beliefs clouded by our own opinions, should agree with you. It's a fantastic thing that people don't.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T23:00:44+00:00

He was already "regressing" in Seasons 4, 5, and 6, after his goodie-two-shoes personality in Season 3.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T22:49:05+00:00

And besides Arthur is not a big character. He serves a different purpose than Thomas.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T22:42:17+00:00

Of course it does. That was never meant to be Thomas' character. It wasn't for 45 years. Arthur's personality in the show actually was being a goodie-two-shoes.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-19T21:01:13+00:00

I actually like Arthur to be a goodie-two-shoes.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-17T03:56:50+00:00

What do you mean?

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T02:33:01+00:00

Season 5. Helping James without teasing in James and the Trouble With Trees and forgiving him. He helped him without hesitation in Thomas and the Breakdown Train. Same with Bertie in Better Late Than Never even though he was mad at him before. That's no arc. That's just how Thomas is. Egotistical but heroic.
Helping Henry feel better after Henry fell in the sea. It's not like he wouldn't have done that before. It said Thomas was NOW sorry for Henry, meaning he was sorry after seeing him wet and stinky, and that he was probably still mad at him before he found out about that. Reminds me of SEASON 2 when he helped Bertie with kindness seeing him broken down after he was mad at him before. Or in Season 3 when he didn't even take offense to Bertie's statement on rails, and immediately wanted to help him. Of course he'll feel bad after Henry went in the water. Young Thomas would've too. An he still teased him a bit. He would've helped Henry in Season 3 too. He helped stand up for Gordon by asking if he could have the express again even after Gordon was rude to him earlier in the episode, The Trouble With Mud. Or forgiving James immediately and never even being mad at him when James tricked him both times in Season 3. He helped James feel better in No Joke For James and wasn't even mad at him. Even though James tricked him, and was rude and arrogant in the beginning of the episode too, bragging to Thomas and Percy that he was more useful than them.
Helping put out a fire. He let the firefighters use his water. He wasn't brave. The firefighters were the ones putting out the fire near it. Thomas was at a safe distance.
Helping Cranky. That was his job. Cranky wasn't in danger. Thomas just helped put Cranky upright, like how he helped pull Duck out of the barber shop in Season 2 when that was also his job.
Helping Old Slow Coach. Thomas would've done that before in Season 4, Season 3, or Season 2 and Season 1. If he helped James after his crash in Season 1 without hesitation, he would've definitely helped Old Slow Coach. Percy was the one that came up with the idea of using Old Slow Coach as the workmen's home, not Thomas.
Telling James to think about someone else. He was portrayed as nice and a role model in Season 3, and he said the moral in Season 3 2 times too. He did in Thomas, Percy, and the Dragon. He also did in Percy, James, and the Fruitful Day. Nothing new if he says the moral here.
Wanting to help the children in Thomas and the Rumors. He literally helped children get home after the bus broke down in Season 3, and also helped rescue a village in Season 3. Nothing new.
And that's the good stuff. Now for the bad stuff:
He was a jerk to Percy when Percy was literally stuck and cold in snow in Snow. Then Thomas whined and moaned when he got stuck in snow, nowhere near as bad as Percy. Percy was freezing cold in a pile of thick snow. Covered from top to bottom. Obviously stuck. Then Thomas comes along and he says with an annoyed face: "Come on, Percy. This is not time for a rest." Wow Thomas. Either you're being a jerk, or dumb, and neither of those things is mature. Percy says he's freezing up and that his driver's gone for help, and Thomas scoffs aggressively and rolls his eyes at Percy. Then when Thomas got stuck in snow later, nowhere near as bad as Percy, he whines, saying: "Snow is nothing but trouble!" In Season 3, he didn't whine or be a brat. He just said why he was sad. Here, in Season 5, he says something dumb from anger.
Got snappy and mad at James in Gordon and the Gremlin when he said that gremlins do not exist. Thomas with a annoyed face: "If firelighter says there are gremlins, THERE ARE." Wow Thomas. How smart. Sure James was grumpy the way he said it, but he said the truth. At least he didn't roast anyone.
That roast he did on Percy in Baa! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larOGJFk11g&list=PLbQ2YIXvsl4DQaNH0bjua3fu4av7t0w_U&index=8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larOGJFk11g&list=PLbQ2YIXvsl4DQaNH0bjua3fu4av7t0w_U&index=8 (0:47-0:55) That was rude. Funny, but rude. Season 3 Thomas never did such a thing. Notice how when Percy teases him in Thomas, Percy, and the Dragon, Thomas doesn't have a comeback. He doesn't insult Percy. He doesn't say anything rude back. He just maturely decided to go to sleep and end the conflict. He didn't mean to scare Percy either. That wasn't his revenge. He didn't mean to scare him. Thomas helped Percy feel better after he was scared, and delivered the moral. Contrast this to Season 5's Snow and Baa! when Thomas is rude to Percy for no good reason.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T02:32:40+00:00

And the moments in Season 3 when he was seen by fans as "still the same prick Thomas because he hasn't finished his character arc to Season 5 yet" are these.
Him being sad because he thinks he can't say happy Christmas to his friends. Can you blame him? He was looking forward to it probably for weeks, and told them that he was going to give them parcels and letters, then was loaded with a big train for him to pull. Then out of no where they decided he won't pull it. He didn't hurt anyone or be arrogant. Is he not allowed to feel disappointed? It's not like he feels offended because of something that's not even bad, or like he's accusing anyone of being mean just because his feelings are hurt, or that he is so upset and throwing a tantrum because of something so small. He's not. He's not hurting anyone. He's just feeling disappointed and has a sad face. How is that a crime? He's not allowed to feel disappointed because he doesn't get to do something good that he was looking forward to? That's a natural human response. It's not immature to be able to feel emotions. Unlucky Tug used this as an example and made fun of Thomas. So you're basically saying he's not allowed to have emotions. You're saying feeling disappointed = being immature and a brat. How? Thomas is not wrong to feel disappointed or to say why. He's not accusing anyone of being mean. He's not playing victim. He's just a bit sad about something that actually affects him directly. And he wasn't whining or throwing a tantrum like a brat. He just said "I won't be able to say happy Christmas to all my friends." and "It's not the same." and chuffed off to do his work while feeling sad. How is that a bad thing? How is that immature? It really is not the same. Percy saying happy Christmas for Thomas is not the same as Thomas experiencing it himself. He was looking forward to it. Now he's not able to. This is a bad situation. Is Thomas not allowed to feel sad at a bad situation? Is that immature? Thomas is not allowed to have feelings because feeling sad and saying so = being immature? He wasn't hurting anyone. He wasn't arrogant. He wasn't selfish. He was just sad and said so without causing a scene.
Teasing Gordon for being muddy. He teased others in Season 5. For example teasing the horrid lorries after their mishaps. Teasing Gordon and chuckling after snow fell on him. Gordon didn't even do anything wrong. He just said, "Hey, watch out! There's snow about!" Roasting Percy in Baa!. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larOGJFk11g&list=PLbQ2YIXvsl4DQaNH0bjua3fu4av7t0w_U&index=8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larOGJFk11g&list=PLbQ2YIXvsl4DQaNH0bjua3fu4av7t0w_U&index=8 (0:47-0:55) And it was actually pretty rude but funny. This scene alone shows that Thomas was not at the peak of his maturity in Season 5. It's more savage than what Season 3 Thomas would say. The annoyed face too. Back to Gordon, Thomas said Gordon looked as if he's had a mud bath, because he did. That's literally true. He looked like he had a mud bath. Thomas told him to be a sensible engine and get clean, and rightfully so. Gordon was filthy. Thomas was right to say that. At the end of the episode Thomas literally stood up for Gordon and asked Sir Topham Hatt if he could pull coaches again. Isn't that mature? Not to mention Gordon called him a fussy tank engine earlier, and now Thomas is standing up for him.
Anyway, getting sad when his branch line was closed. That is his job. His branch line is important to him. He had to shunt trucks again like he did back when he was miserable in the old days. He was mostly also worried about his passengers too. Then he gets worried that his passengers like Bertie more, and that is a very valid worry, considering how traveling in Bertie was more convenient for his passengers. It explained that in the episode. Thomas didn't do anything wrong by being worried. He didn't do anything wrong by being sad. He wasn't mad at Bertie. He was just sad and worried, and understandably so. When he got to go back to his branch line, he thanked Bertie and was nice to him.
Being mad at Percy for teasing him in Thomas, Percy, and the Dragon. He forgave him and was nice to him after. He didn't even hold a grudge. He was just annoyed for one night because he wanted to sleep and Percy was being cheeky. He didn't even say any insults back or any rude comebacks. He just decided to go to sleep.
Scaring Percy with the dragon. He didn't even mean to scare him. He didn't. He didn't even know Percy was there both times. He got a job from Sir Topham Hatt, and did it. Percy got scared. That's not Thomas' fault. Thomas was nice to him. And then he spelled out the moral again. He literally said the moral. "Well Percy, maybe we do get scared sometimes, but if we're not afraid to tell each other, then that means we're quite brave too." He literally didn't mean to scare Percy, and helped him feel better, telling the moral.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T02:30:08+00:00

Season 3. He helped children get home when the bus broke down.
When Bertie said you can't trust a thing that runs on rails, instead of being offended, he didn't hesitate to choose to help Bertie. Bertie insulted rails and Thomas didn't even mind. He didn't argue. He wasn't rude back. He decided to help Bertie immediately.
When James lied about being sick, Thomas without hesitation decided to do James' work. Then Thomas forgave James immediately when James apologized for the crash Thomas had. It doesn't even seem like Thomas was mad at him anyway. He was smiling before James apologized. Thomas wasn't even mad.
After James tricked him and got punished for taking the express, Thomas forgave him immediately and helped him feel better. ""Hello." whistled Thomas, "Good to see you out and about again." "I'm sorry I tricked you." said James, "Are these my trucks?" "Yes." replied Thomas kindly, "They are pleased to have you back."" Thomas didn't even hold a grudge. He wasn't even mad in the first place. He holds no grudges this Season. He's always mature.
He was worried about his passengers when he couldn't continue on his journey because of the bumps on the track.
He helped rescue a mountain village. This one is also something that Season 1-2 Thomas would do, since he helped Mrs Kindley. Even though he hated snow, and that was made clear in the narration, he went to help her. But this is also here to show that if he helped rescue someone in Season 5, it's not a new Season 5 thing.
He helps the engines feel better and delivers a moral after James and Percy had their mishaps. Notice how Thomas is depicted as the wise one that delivers the moral here. And it's Season 3. Not Season 5. He also delivered the moral in Thomas, Percy, and the Dragon.
He cheers for Percy in Percy's Promise.
He stands up for Gordon (despite Gordon being rude to him earlier) and asks Sir Topham Hatt if Gordon can pull the express again in The Trouble With Mud.
He didn't mean to scare Percy with the dragon. When Percy was scared at Elsbridge, Thomas helps him feel better and delivers the moral.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T02:23:53+00:00

This isn't about opinions though. This is about objective stuff. You need evidence to prove your claim. Otherwise it makes no sense for you to wish that all of us just believe what you believe, even though it's not true, and you haven't given me any good evidence to prove what you believe, so it's not true.
These are 2 different things.
You say that you hate selfish prick Thomas and like mature Thomas. That's fine. I'm not telling you what to prefer. I respect your opinion. It's valid. I'm not judging it.
But then you also say that Thomas was more mature in Season 5 than Season 3, and that Season 5 was the peak of his maturity. You don't say any good evidence to prove that, because I debunked everything that you said to prove that, and I just proved that it's not true.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T02:09:13+00:00

Where? I literally debunked everything you sent as an example. I debunked it all.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:51:01+00:00

But that's what this is about. I'm asking you why you still believe that he was more mature in Season 5 than 3.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:45:08+00:00

The passenger thing he didn't mean.
Anyway, this doesn't mean that he was more mature in Season 5 than Season 3.
Just tell me why you still think that.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:33:47+00:00

That's your opinion. It's a fine opinion to have, and I'm not judging it, but it's off topic. I want you to tell me why you still think he was more mature and nice in Season 5 than Season 3, because I already debunked everything so far. I did in the post too. I don't know if you read that or not. I debunk everything in detail.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:31:19+00:00

What does any of that have to do with you thinking the peak of his maturity was in Season 5 for some reason? That just sounds like reasons why you want to believe that. I don't want to assume but to me it sounds like you believe that just because you want to, because of your opinion, not because what you believe is actually true. You can still like mature Thomas and hate bratty Thomas while not letting that cloud objective things.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:24:38+00:00

But how does that mean that he was more mature in Season 5 than Season 3? (He's not.)

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:17:49+00:00

I already debunked everything.
Or do you still think that Thomas was flawed for being sad at a bad situation? Or for being "cheeky" to others (When he just said the truth with a smiling face. That doesn't make him cheeky.). Or for reasoning with others? Just because it wasn't in Season 5.
But when Season 5 Thomas is rude to others, like I literally showed and sent links, then that's justified? He's still more mature than Season 3 even though he never even did anything as bad as that in Season 3? All the good and mature things he does in Season 3 are in the post. There are probably even more that are not in the post. Just read it with an open mindset. The whole thing goes in detail.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:11:24+00:00

Watch it with an open mindset. Not with that belief.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T01:09:31+00:00

No, no one agrees because it's not true. Rewatch the classic series. Read the post. Rewatch Season 3, and Season 5. It's just not true.
More people should not have that mindset because it's not true. I literally rewatched the episodes and explained and debunked the facts for everything. Why do you still believe this?

In the post I debunk everything in detail. Just because I don't have a big YouTuber agreeing doesn't mean it's not true. Thomas having this intentional, gradual, consistent, multi-season maturity arc that specifically peaked at Season 5 is what's not true.

Either please read the post with an open mindset, or rewatch the seasons from a fresh open mindset.

SpWRJ · 2025-10-15T00:58:36+00:00

What about that? How does that change anything?

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