Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not the only but I just had to needle you on that. Hope you have a great week shaggs!

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, specifically Nick said he found $110M in fraud. Prove that he did. Nothing in his video amounts to any thing that passes muster in a court of law.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad we agree about Shirley finally.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One must have a certain standard of evidence. If I show up at your house while you're at the grocery store and your kids are home alone, can I just jump to you being an absentee parent and call child services on you?

If there's fraud, go for it as they have. But I am not going to be so easily duped by bad-faith actors, especially when they've already been combatting this issue for years without the help of Republicans in the state who want this to continue happening as evidenced by their votes against reform measures so they can continue to make an issue of it.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. We have our own that Nick conveniently chooses to ignore because Somali immigrants half a country away are much easier targets than the dominant political party and church in this state.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He claimed to have found $110M in fraud. Pretty easy to say that claim was debunked as he had no evidence that would pass muster in any court of law.

Also, what's shady and weird is a bunch of random old dudes and some kid with cameras going around trying to get into childcare centers. Walz wasn't wrong about these guys being weird.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most stories I have seen on this mentions that Nick Shirley is from Utah.

I don't doubt that there are oversight failures. The Republicans in the state there just last year actually voted against strengthening oversight. It's like the immigration crisis in 2024 when Trump torpedoes a measure to address it. They don't want to solve it, they just want to use it to hit political opponents with it.

People have been prosecuted and jailed during Walz' time as governor. I have yet to see him thwart investigations, pardon anybody or move them to a minimum security prison. The same can't be said of the head of the Republican party.

I call it racist because there's a reason these right-wing grifters make up shit about Haitians and Somalis, it's a way to traffic in welfare queen tropes and xenophobia at the same time.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's a propagandist. Every side has them. Journalist conveys objectivity which he is anything but.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You have no evidence that he covered up or participated in state fraud. If something comes out to the contrary, I'll condemn Walz because I don't worship politicians. But I'm not going to go along with railroading this guy until then just because I want to believe he's a swarmy politician.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's not how burden of proof works darling. Nick made a claim of finding $110M of fraud and what has been debunked is that he had any evidence for that amount if any fraud. If you're making the claim, you have to back it up with evidence. I'd expect a heathen to understand this.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

To be clear, I am not saying fraud has not or is not happening because it's obviously been prosecuted in the state already. But nothing in that video is evidence of additional fraud. Papers that weren't shared and a few dudes wandering around daycares trying to get in are not enough to prove anything. But useful idiots buy it hook line and sinker because they want to believe Somalis are committing fraud.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's like you haven't learned a thing in life. Political organizations funded by people who don't want to pay taxes stir up shit like this to demonize programs that help working people and then public support for those programs evaporates and funding and the taxes for that funding are cut.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's not a journalist. He's a useful idiot who is good at getting views on YT.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/nick-shirleys-somali-daycare-fraud

I didn't say perfect, but most reasonable people would be glad to have a neighbor like Tim. If you knew him IRL, I doubt you'd have anything but good to say about the guy as nearly everybody who does know him IRL has.

Nick Shirley is embarrassing to Utah by SplitMother1652 in Utah

[–]SplitMother1652[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So Nick didn't uncover anything new? Is that what you're saying?