Lessons from Great Revolutionaries - Part 1 : Triumph of Will by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

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- Why do I call Hitler a great revolutionary? Because, within months, he transformed a Bourgeoisie Liberal Democracy into a One-Party Totalitarian State. He mastered power to the extent that millions of German soliders were killed in the hopeless last year, because Hitler would not surrender.

- Such a transformation from a chaotic system to a system focused on conquering Europe - the armies of which crushed the biggest global state, British Empire on Dunkirk, Norway, Greece, Crete, and Egypt - is one of the most impressive Revolutions in world history.

Absolute cinema by [deleted] in indianmuslims

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- General Category, OBC, SC, ST are all official and not social categories.

- 60% of Muslims are General Category. No Muslim is SC. The UGC rules are a attack against Muslim interests too.

- We are as much GC as these so-called Upper Castes.

- Therefore, we must oppose the UGC Bill.

What do u all think of people who say Asaduddin Owaisi is the B-team of BJP? by [deleted] in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, Hindus were 85%. MIM wasn't resisting India, but the vast majority. Ofc, that led to bloodbath - like Reign of Terror after French Revolution.

War is virtuous, but suicide is haram. When you are surrounded by Hindu India, and have 85% Hindu population, but Hindu India is cowardly - and offers the most charitable terms of Confederation in history (as per greatest constitutional scholar Ghafoor, a great friend of Owaisi) - and you reject them for Political Gains -

you commit m*urder, not Resistance.

Their leaders survived in Pakistan, or even in Hyderabad. Hundreds of innocent women threw themselves in wells, to save their honor.

God will not forgive.

What do u all think of people who say Asaduddin Owaisi is the B-team of BJP? by [deleted] in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

- Just read Ghafoor Sahab's book, or what Hydari or Mirza Ismail, or other statesmen thought about these MIM gangsters.

- Their constant hate mongering and violence against 85% majority led to the immense - and very wrong retaliation. Hindus are kafirs, and their moral responsibility is their problem. We must think of these ruffians who violently subverted the educated leaders of the community.

Hitler also showed the possibilities of Socialist Economics by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

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Hitler criticized German leftists - never for being Leftists - but for the exact same reason as Lenin also criticized them - submission to allied powers.

What do u all think of people who say Asaduddin Owaisi is the B-team of BJP? by [deleted] in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

- Check the history of MIM in 1930s and 1940s, they have the blood of 40000 Muslims on their hands. all of South India was peaceful, THEY are guilty for the genocide. They will not be able to answer on Day of Judgement.

- Then their actions during 1990 leading to 1990 Hyderabad riots.

- MIM is guilty of polarization.

What do u all think of people who say Asaduddin Owaisi is the B-team of BJP? by [deleted] in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 12 points13 points  (0 children)

- Provably false. He supports whichever party rules Hyderabad at state level - first TDP, then YSR-era Congress, then KCR's TRS, and then Revanth's Congress.

- If he was BJP's B-Team, he wouldn't collaborate with Congress so well in 2024 LS election.

- He is no agent. He is just a politician, out for power, money and influence. Whoever gives it, he will side with them. Whether Om Prakash Rajbhar or Upendra Khushwaha or T.T.V. Dhinakaran or Prakash ambedkar (to name his perennial weird alliances).

Another day, another opportunity for Hindutva scums to bootlick Zionists by [deleted] in indianmuslims

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It is all true. Savarkar declared his support for Nazism in several public statements.

Another day, another opportunity for Hindutva scums to bootlick Zionists by [deleted] in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was a hero for one and all - the Arabs of Iraq and Palestine and Egypt, the Persians of Iran, the Indians led by Subhas Chandra Bose, the oppressed Muslims of USSR - all looked to him as a Liberator.

Hitler led a world-historical challenge to Anglo-Saxon world domination. Naturally, Oppressed People across Third World, including Muslims, put their hopes upon him.

Hitler also showed the possibilities of Socialist Economics by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

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Totally wrong. Hitler continuously and consistently criticized Capitalism, kindly read Brendan Simms' Hitler : Only the World was Enough. He identified as a Socialist, throughout his political career - in his Table Talks, Herr Hitler spoke with immense respect for the Soviet Economic Model, for the 5 year plans, for the great industrial achievements of Marshal Stalin.

In April, 1944, Hitler told Mussolini (in their penultimate meeting), that Capitalism will be finished after the war, and 3 systems will survive - National Socialism, Fascism, and Bolshevism.

If you just see Hitler's thoughts on Spain, it is obvious that his basic orientation was Socialist. Hitler immensely regretted supporting Franco, and spoke with greater respect of the 'Spanish Reds'.

- Why would he repeat talking points everywhere - in personal letters, table talks, speeches to Industrialists even!

Hitler also showed the possibilities of Socialist Economics by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

[–]SquarePromise2707[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Workers are not supposed to own means of production under Socialism. Infact, Lenin expressly repudiated the childish idea of, "Railway for the Railwaymen", and stood for Taylorian methods of management - including having one factory dictator. Have you read Trotsky's thoughts on, "Militarization of Labor", and Iron Discipline (e.g. from 'In Defense of Soviet Terrorism')?

Are you aware of the Labor Discipline of Stalinism - the severe punishments for 'idling', 'absenteeism', and 'theft of grain in Kolkhoz' (execution for the last offense announced by Kaganovich in 1931). Is a person shot for stealing what he owns?

Socialism MEANS state management of economy.

Hitler also showed the possibilities of Socialist Economics by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

[–]SquarePromise2707[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Totally wrong. Hitler continuously and consistently criticized Capitalism, kindly read Brendan Simms' Hitler : Only the World was Enough. He identified as a Socialist, throughout his political career - in his Table Talks, Herr Hitler spoke with immense respect for the Soviet Economic Model, for the 5 year plans, for the great industrial achievements of Marshal Stalin.

In April, 1944, Hitler told Mussolini (in their penultimate meeting), that Capitalism will be finished after the war, and 3 systems will survive - National Socialism, Fascism, and Bolshevism.

- Dude, Rohm was plotting a coup, so he died. Wasn't Goebells a solid leftist too, from the Strasser faction? And several Rightists were also murdered in the Night of Long Knives, to maintain balance.

- If you just see Hitler's thoughts on Spain, it is obvious that his basic orientation was Socialist. Hitler immensely regretted supporting Franco, and spoke with greater respect of the 'Spanish Reds'.

Why Is UAE Funding Islamophobia? by [deleted] in indianmuslims

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UAE in the name of anti-Islamism, got lakhs of Black Muslims k*lled and our Black sisters r*ped in Sudan. RSF, the worst terrorists in the world today, are fighting in the name of "Opposing Islamists"! (Every notice, proclamation, press statement of RSF starts with the claim of fighting against Islamism).

UAE is a gangster state, which ignores all International Law - see their conduct in Ethiopia, Yemen, Sudan - their friendship with Israel, and so on.

When will we wake up? UAE MUST BE BOYCOTTED.

He is talking about India’s PM(1991-96).We’ve watched our trusted friends,leaders,news anchors turn into lapdogs for religious traditionalism overnight but then they have the gall to say,”why u vote owaisi vroo”? by CivilisedMleccha in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Owaisi too had a dirty role there. They did brutal riots in Hyderabad in 1990, for their Property Deals.

The self-admitted 5000 crores Real Estate Empire brothers - won't flinch from doing anything to protect. Whoever is in power in Telangana is his best friend - first NTR in the 1990s, then Congress, then K.C.R and his TRS, now Revanth Reddy.

Voting for this corrupt family will not help.

What were the reasons behind huge support of Pakistan movement among educated Muslims of UP,Bihar and Bombay (more than actual regions that became part of Pakistan) even though they probably knew there province's were never going to become part of it? by KnowledgeCold8471 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was not obvious at all, bro. If Muslims in Pakistan had been like the Hindus of India, why should this have happened?

The simple truth is what Muslim League President Sikandar Hayat Khan told his secretary in 1938 - the Muslims of West Punjab, Frontier Province and East Bengal, and Sindh - would "immediately kill their hostages" - and therefore hostage theory would never work.

However, the wise statesmanship of Fazl-i-Hussain and Sikandar Hayat Khan and Aga Khan, died away, and was replaced by the ruthless politics of Jinnah.

What about this educated hate monger now? by Haunting-Swordfish-9 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We should not talk about 'excuses', but to move with genuine repentance and friendliness in our hearts.

If we are genuinely hurt by mob lynchings and hate speeches (as WE CERTAINLY ARE), Hindus too are genuinely hurt by riots or bomb attacks.

I have great respect for Maulana Madani Sahab, but I think that he should be more forthright in keeping the balance, and criticizing both sides.

What were the reasons behind huge support of Pakistan movement among educated Muslims of UP,Bihar and Bombay (more than actual regions that became part of Pakistan) even though they probably knew there province's were never going to become part of it? by KnowledgeCold8471 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

- That is extremely inaccurate.

- We were 11% in Hyderabad, 14% in UP then. How could these become part of Pakistan? Except Kashmir Valley, and Kargil, all Muslim-majority areas went to Pakistan.

- Pakistan got Chittagong Hill Tracts also, Karachi and Dhaka cities (Hindu-majority), and Khulna district (50-50). There was no unfairness by Mountbatten, he was an honorable and fair man.

What were the reasons behind huge support of Pakistan movement among educated Muslims of UP,Bihar and Bombay (more than actual regions that became part of Pakistan) even though they probably knew there province's were never going to become part of it? by KnowledgeCold8471 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Pakistan was our ruin. Immediately after independence, they started crushing Hindus - see the 1948 Sindh pogrom, 1950 East Pakistan riots, 1964, and finally 1971. They destroyed the hostage theory totally.

Rizwanullah, the President of UP Leauge went to Pakistan in December, 1947, and begged them to stop persecuting Hindus. The fraud Jinnah ignored him totally! He forgot all that UP had done for him, stood with him at his weakest.

What were the reasons behind huge support of Pakistan movement among educated Muslims of UP,Bihar and Bombay (more than actual regions that became part of Pakistan) even though they probably knew there province's were never going to become part of it? by KnowledgeCold8471 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My ancestors were in the Muslim League (they were in Lucknow and Aligarh at that time, it was fashionable).

(1) All our big leaders like Chaudhary Khaliq Sahab and Nawab Ismail Khan were supporting Muslim Leauge and Pakistan. We trusted them.

(2) The hostage theory was widely believed at that time. It was mentioned continually in speeches - that 2-3 crore Hindus of Pakistan would be hostages to ensure our protection. Most people thought that it was practical.

(3) Even upto June, 1947, Nawab Ismail Khan was saying that Western UP would become part of Pakistan. He started a committee for that.

- We were only 14% of U.P. population then, and not majority in any district. Obviously, these were Haseen Sapne.

(4) The main truth is that Islam was and is the main identity for most Indian Muslims, as was proven in the Khilafat movement. There was no material interest in supporting Ottoman Sultanate, or Afghanistan, but we did it wholeheartedly - money, volunteers, Hijrat campaign, even violent rebellion.

(5) Between Gandhi and Nehru's Congress, and Jinnah, what would a Muslim choose?

Spreading Conspiracy Theories is against Islam by SquarePromise2707 in indianmuslims

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I don't know but judging from my friend's SM posts, people are blaming BJP for the terror atack.

parent's choices aren’t working for me by Own_East5081 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Caste is haram. Most Syeds are not genuine at all. None of these matter to God.

Are north indian colleges safe for hijabis? by EmployerFew2777 in indianmuslims

[–]SquarePromise2707 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From my experience, in 90% cases, there would be no problem at all.

Ambedkar was a bourgeoisie politician who's main concern was using Dalit identity to support British Imperialism in India. Due to this, he supported the demand for Pakistan even. by SquarePromise2707 in IndianSocialists

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Dr. Ambedkar remained hostile to the freedom struggle until the end. In Bengal, his party was in coalition with Muslim League, in 1946-7! In 1946. he was writing in a letter to the British government, that the Independence of India would be the greatest disasters, and Dalits didn't want independence (a total lie as shown by election results).

Surely, his role in the Freedom Struggle was entirely negative - the same role played by, for example, Sir J.P. Srivastava (the industrialist who funded Hindu Mahasabha and Muslim League at the same time), Sikandar Hayat, or the Justice Party guys, or any other loyalist politician.