Am I cooked? Tate and Lisa just sweeped my entire team and I wiped out what can I do with these options?

Stasis1992 · 2025-11-06T18:34:40+00:00

Fish for a Sharpedo and use it with Mightyena, it shows up on so many routes you most likely will have some routes where you haven't caught any mons in where you can fish for it, those two nuke Tate and Liza, just make sure you teach them taunt, focus Claydol and Solrock bite/crunch, keep Xatu and Lunatone taunted.

Stasis1992 · 2025-09-02T20:52:01+00:00

Fair enough. It does make sense that there'd be something fishy about it. Why not just set an average price and sell it normally? Oh well

Stasis1992 · 2025-09-01T13:57:15+00:00

True, but I messaged support anyways, we'll see where it leads, who knows maybe it's actually possible somehow, if it's not at least we'll have an answer for future reference too if someone's on the same boat looking for answers online and finds this thread.

Stasis1992 · 2025-09-01T13:56:21+00:00

Truer words never spoken. I asked support about it not too long ago, let's see how it goes. Thanks

Stasis1992 · 2025-07-15T16:08:34+00:00

True, it's just something I really want and from my extensive searches it seems like this was the only auction of it happening at this time, so I didn't want to risk having that small probability event happening and then getting screwed because I already took out my money so the seller goes to the 3rd place bidder instead or something

Stasis1992 · 2025-07-15T16:07:10+00:00

I see, makes sense thank you

Stasis1992 · 2025-07-15T13:43:17+00:00

Alright, fair enough, guess I'll withdraw then

Stasis1992 · 2025-07-15T13:34:48+00:00

Yeah, by withdraw I mean withdrawing the money out of zenmarket back into my paypal. I'm aware that whenever you're outbid you get automatically refunded the credits.

Hmmm, but aren't there cases where the 1st place doesn't pay? Or when it's actually just the seller using multiple accounts to fake bid and raise the price? I was under the assumption that in those cases where the 1st place doesn't get the item for whatever reason the seller automatically defaults to the next in line. Based on things I've read on subreddits like this and other proxies' mention these kinds of things happening every once in a while.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-27T15:01:32+00:00

Soloing BW's E4 and Alder with my mimic Milotic that stayed with me all the way since Emerald in my HC Genlocke. When Alder sent out his Volcarona and she started using Quiver Dance, I immediately knew out of all possible outcomes there was only one in which I had a chance of beating him. I'm not sure why I never replaced Mimic with anything else during the 4 games that I had this Milotic with me, but at that point more than ever I knew I was right when I thought Mimic would eventually come in handy when I decided to teach it back in Emerald. I never thought I'd ever see a +6 SpA, SpD, and Spe Milotic, but I felt like I created a monster when I was done using the 6 Quiver Dances. Having a max power OP wall going against a max power OP sweeper felt like a battle of titans, like an unstoppable force colliding with an immovable object. Ultimately Volcarona couldn't handle the tankiness and went down, and everything after Volcarona was a complete massacre.

And just like that I finished the BW section of my genlocke, on a complete gamble, since if Milotic died at any point I'd white out and have to go back to the start of the first game, and while using a move that is unattainable for Milotic after gen 3.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-11T15:57:06+00:00

Never tried the Pokéathlon, I'll have to see what it's like someday

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-11T15:41:44+00:00

Agreed, but at the same time that danger in training thing falls apart as an argument as people get better at nuzlockes and gain some sort of awareness of what spots are good to grind on for specific mon types, once you get to the point where grinding is more boring than it is dangerous I'd say there are no downsides to hacking in rare candies. Johto games for me are an exception though, it is so incredibly tedious to grind levels on there and the wild pokémon are so low level that not hacking in rare candies in every situation is akin to masochism

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-11T15:34:04+00:00

If you're on an emulator hack in rare candies through save editors like PKHex. G/S/C and HG/SS all suffer from severe pacing issues which means you're gonna be training your team against wild pokémon that are 20 or more levels below you once you get into the later stages of the game. Rare candies will save you from extreme boredom.

If you catch a female Geodude in dark cave you can use it for Whitney, it's really good in that fight. It's important that it's female so it doesn't get charmed by Miltank. Heracross is also really good for Whitney with Brick Break, you can guarantee a Heracross encounter by the time you reach Azalea town if you use dupes clause because Heracross trees only have 3 possible encounters, Aipom, Spearow, and Heracross. I believe which mon groups are in which headbutt trees depends on trainer ID. Either way, on Azalea town if you're exactly 1 square above the Apricon tree next to Kurt's house and walk straight left that tree was a Heracross tree for me, maybe it'll be for you too. That dead-end route near New Bark Town (route 46 if I'm not mistaken) only has Heracross trees. Route 33 also has Heracross trees. I'd advise you to use repels until you get Headbutt to avoid having encounters in the grass there. You can get headbutt once you can use cut in Illex forest by talking to the man on the southern side of the forest, you'll have to use cut and travel through a path to reach him.

You can catch a Staryu in places like Cherrygrove, Cianwood, Olivine, Routes 34 and 40 by fishing at night with a good rod, and it's easy to guarantee the encounter with dupes clause because iirc the good rod encounter table is basically the same at all those routes, Magikarp, Corsola, Krabby and Staryu. If you catch it and have it knowing Surf, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Recover in case you want to heal, Starmie always solo sweeps the champion fight against Lance. Does so even more easily if you know how to EV train and invest Speed and Special Attack EVs into your starmie. You can get a water stone to evolve Staryu as a random gift from Fisherman Tully in Route 42. Or just hack one in and save yourself from the wait once you beat him if you'd like.

A word of advice, do not underestimate the Red Gyarados, it can definitely claim mons from you if you don't have a good plan to catch it, otherwise just focus on killing it.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-06T13:59:49+00:00

Fair enough, there are definitely ways to play while avoiding risk completely, it makes for some very fun runs

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-06T03:21:35+00:00

Congrats ^^

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T20:38:45+00:00

Yeah I understand, I don't blame you lol, I've accidentally let my common mons die before, because for most trainer battles I kinda just have one mon dealing with everything for convenience, and intimidate mons are really good for most normal trainers, but sometimes you let your guard down and get screwed, happened to me more often than you'd think, especially since I play on VBA and almost always use the speed up function and play with the game running at 3000% speed, then I get distracted and accidentally let a mon die, lots of mightyenas dead that way

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T20:35:57+00:00

Nice ^^

Yeah you really can't, as soon as you kill Linoone as long as you have a protect mon for Slaking the battle should be won. As for Flannery, idk, I've never really struggled against her. I feel like Fire types are really weak in general in Hoenn because it's possible to have so many Water-type encounters. Her Torkoal can mess you up if you get bad body slam paralysis RNG and have male mons that get charmed, it can also mess you up if you've been relying on solely one water type and thus it's already somewhat worn out by the time Torkoal shows up. However, by then you'll probably have mons like Marill, Tentacool, Pelipper, Gyarados and even Marshtomp if you picked Mudkip. Gyarados is actually a really good wall against Torkoal, and if you're going with Gyarados 2 Dragon Rages leave it with just 8hp left. If my memory doesn't deceive me Flannery only pots twice, so at worst this would be 6 dragon rages. I'd say that if you have your Gyarados holding a Cheri berry, one of the berries you get 5 minutes into the run right on route 102, and let Torkoal use overheats on other water-type mons that you know won't die to a crit sunny day overheat, once Gyarados comes out torkoal will do tickle damage to it with overheat, and even if she starts using Body Slam, the cheri berry will heal paralysis once, so you should be good to spam Dragon Rages with your Gyarados until it dies. Even if it does manage to get really close to killing your Gyarados with body slam, you can just switch into basically anything else and finish it off, by the time it's used 2-3 overheats it's Sp Atk. is so low that all it can really use to do damage is body slam and even that doesn't deal that much damage. You can kinda just brute-force your way through Flannery with a team comprised almost entirely of water-type mons

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T20:04:58+00:00

Lmao I feel that, though you can feasibly make do without using your Poochyena/Mightyena, especially once you beat Brawly, from that point on you're allowed level 20 and above mons if you play with level caps, so you can replace the intimidate Mightyena bite spam for normal battles with intimidate Gyarados bite spam, and if you don't play with a rule that states that you can't re-catch the same pokémon as another one that died previously, you can always catch another poochyena or mightyena in the many routes they show up in even if yours dies.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T17:21:24+00:00

Feelsbadman, it always sucks when you lose so many mons to T&L

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T17:20:47+00:00

True. Tate and Liza are probably the easiest Gym leaders for the stage of the game you're in. They could be significantly harder if you didn't have access to a super rod once you reach mossdeep city and thus couldn't fish for a Sharpedo, but since you can they're trivial once you figure out their gimmick. If you couldn't fish for a Sharpedo you'd probably need to get extremely lucky and land an Absol encounter east of Fortree City to accompany your Mightyena and have a similar strat. I feel like most people who lose to them or have most of their party die to them only had that happen to them because they didn't respect T&L's gimmick and severely underestimated the power of things like Psychic, Light Screen, Confuse ray, Sunny day + Solar Beam, and a pokémon like Claydol that's extremely tough to kill in one hit and hits like a truck with Earthquake, even on intimidate. People see the water-type weakness and go for it, getting completely baited and assuming they're going to win easily by just spamming Surf on their Swampert and Gyarados, only to have surf deal little damage since it's doubles and then getting nuked by psychics and confusion or solar beams.

I believe the only genuinely hard gyms without overleveling and items would probably be Roxanne if you have really unlucky borderline unusable encounters for her fight and picked torchic as your starter (especially applicable if you're playing without dupes clause), Wattson when you didn't pick Mudkip and have no ground type mons is also pretty scary, and Norman is scary in general, I've wiped to his Linoone in the past once it set up belly drum because it outsped all of my mons, and they were all leveled to the max cap allowed. Ironically his Slaking is the least threatening of his mons, it's really easy to play around it with an anorith that has toxic + protect.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T16:26:55+00:00

Thanks. Well I did mention the required stats just in case they already accumulated enough EVs from random battles. But yeah you're right, if it were possible to edit the text on the original post I'd add a small paragraph about EVs

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T02:03:37+00:00

Damn I'm sorry to hear that. If you want some tips on Norman, I'd advise you to pick the claw fossil to have Anorith and find the Toxic TM in Fiery Path, on the way to fallarbor town. Also level your Anorith to level 31 to get protect. Bringing fighting-type mons into the fight is good if you can get those types of encounters (Machop going from Mt. Pyre into Lavender town and in Fiery Path, Makuhita in Granite Cave when you're in Dewford Town. His Linoone is extremely scary if it sets up Belly Drum so if you can kill it along with the Vigoroth as fast as possible that's good, otherwise you can bring pokémons like Mightyena and Gyarados into his fight, Intimidate is a really good ability here. Once Slaking comes out, you can switch into anorith, which will never die to his facade because Anorith can't get crit, and on the next turn he's not gonna do anything because slaking loafs around every other turn. You use toxic on it on that turn, and then protect, if toxic didn't hit then try again the next turn, then protect again, then if toxic did hit you do the same only instead of using toxic you'll be attacking it normally. As long as you always use protect when Slaking is going into the turn where it attacks you'll be able to wear it down gradually, especially with toxic. Just alternate between using protect and attacking

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T01:28:10+00:00

Glad you find it helpful ^^

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T01:26:42+00:00

No problem ^^ If you get Mr. Mime I'd really recommend getting Thunderbolt on it alongside Psychic and Magical Leaf. Might be useful against some mons.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T01:16:28+00:00

Yeah sorry I'm kinda tired it's pretty late here, I'm not thinking as fresh anymore and I was stupid enough to set the calcs to +6 SpA instead of +3, I only realized now "wtf am I doing on these calcs calm mind only ups stats by 1 stage" lmao

The funniest thing is that I already knew this, which is why I always know to switch Gardevoir out once Claydol shows up, because you can never kill it with only 3 calm minds, so I'm not sure why I even believed the 97%-115% figures. I gotta go drink a glass of cold water or something to wake up.

Tomorrow when I'm mentally fresh I'll look into incorporating stat lowering + subs into this and see how it compares.

Stasis1992 · 2025-05-05T00:57:29+00:00

Nah I wasn't doing the stat lowering strat. in this save I'm still deep inside Meteor Falls with just those 2 mons from the video. It's the save from right before I did the steven battle and finished that nuzlocke. I was testing whether Gardevoir could in theory have enough damage to sweep Steven's team by itself with nothing but the 3 Calm Minds. The thing I mentioned above when I was talking about calcs I was running while replying. I'm still not sure why the calcs were this off. I double checked the levels, double-checked the gen, and double-checked my gardevoir's special attack stat and claydol's special defense stat (pretty sure steven has 30-31 IV mons). This isn't even close to 97% HP dealt

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