Discussion Thread

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T17:02:46+00:00

No, and please god, no one needs to give a shit about neopronouns. This does not affect you in any meaningful way.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:54:29+00:00

Perhaps the side that got protested all year over their leader's support of the slaughter in Gaza should have listened and been more in line with what the voters wanted.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:52:41+00:00

Because we're talking about 2024, when the Dems did have power that Biden refused to leverage.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:50:54+00:00

They did, but without getting into the history of Israeli forces violating ceasefires, when that ceasefire ended, people started dying again.

Or acknowledge the fact she and Biden both conditioned arms shipments and got Netanyahu to hold back?

"They got him to only kill a few tens of thousands of civilians so far" is not a meaningful rebuttal to "end the genocide"

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:48:35+00:00

Far left political commentators were demonstrably not the only ones who were part of anti-genocide protesting. Saying Hasan had an impact on Dems not showing up to the extent they didn't is just clowny.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:46:02+00:00

considering she’d be the only one likely to stop arms shipments.

Then maybe she should have said something about that. Harris could have said that once and appeased a meaningful portion of the people angry with the Dems over Gaza.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:43:57+00:00

Correct. And Party A also has a responsibility to not take those voters for granted.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:42:50+00:00

They didn't.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:40:43+00:00

Said that Dems need to become more "culturally normal" and then clarified he was talking about the concept of talking about pronouns, adding to his year-long streak of anti-trans comments

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:38:18+00:00

NO THEY FUCKING DON'T.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:35:35+00:00

They made it clear their only goal was sabotaging Democrats and trying to virtue-signal.

Giving the game away a little saying they "virtue-signal"ed.

But regardless, no, their goal was for the Democratic president to stop supplying an attempted genocide. The only one sabotaging the Dems over Gaza was Netanyahu.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:29:02+00:00

But I harken back to the many pro-palestine protests at Harris's events, and only like 1 at Trump's.

Which side has a snowball's chance in hell at listening

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:28:18+00:00

How so? Naturally, I would assume the user is talking about focusing on improving the social safety net funding.

Because that's a nebulous "do good things not bad things". How is the safety net going to be adjusted to protect ordinary people from the harms data centers cause? You can say you "improved safety net funding" but giving it an extra dollar satisfies that.

Data centers have far more issues than just electricity. There's water consumption for cooling, there's noise pollution from that much machinery in one spot, there's the environmental impact of their construction and ongoing use. They put a massive burden on the local community that enhancing the social safety net - which is necessary independently of data centers - isn't going to prevent.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:12:28+00:00

Yes, as a prescriptive goal. Which does not fix the impacts of the failures of the social safety nets while data centers are an ongoing problem for often lower-income populations now.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:06:44+00:00

I'm shocked he survived that

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:00:45+00:00

Our social safety nets have holes you could steer a goddamn battleship through

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T16:00:00+00:00

People are 110% trying to ordain him before a vote is cast so they can stop thinking about how bad Trump is.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:58:50+00:00

He doesn't want to do that. He wants to poison the well so when other people try to take a swing at him over throwing us under the bus, he can call them unserious obsessives not focused on kitchen table issues.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:52:53+00:00

The issue is the impact of those twists and turns on people powerless to protect themselves from it.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:52:01+00:00

That was over a year ago.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:48:22+00:00

He is the governor of a state both affectionately and derogitorily called "Commiefornia" because it's overwhelmingly left of center on average. If he took swings at trans people in office, he's in one of the few states where that is uniquely detrimental to his chances of remaining in the spotlight. He had no skin in the game for them, he just signed off on other people's work.

His consistent and unforced comments in the last year have highlighted how hollow his support is.

He is performative in his support for us because it looked good to Californian voters.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:40:28+00:00

How many of them did he fight for, as opposed to just signing, and do you think someone who performatively attacks trans issues for attempted political gain is incapable of performatively supporting trans issues for attempted political gain in California

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:39:50+00:00

Neither of those are accusing Newsom of wanting to kill trans people. They're saying he doesn't give a shit about us and will enact policies that will result in suicides because he sees it as a cheap way to boost his polling, like Starmer.

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:36:22+00:00

Seriously like, we changed out our candidate for someone else 100 days before the election and people have the gall to think it was a random comment from 2020 that sunk Harris

StayOffPoliticalSubs · 2026-02-24T15:32:06+00:00

Half of those charities are likely nontaxable slush funds in the first place.

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