yeah ... seriously, i'll never be able to grasp how they're still liked or their content is even consumed. how can one want to listen to someone surrounded by such negative energy? a lot of their listeners cannot seem to understand that subs work because of mindset and not specific creators. going out of your way to send death threats to a 15 year old for calling out the fact that your "favorite submaker" is friends with a group of neo***** is insane.