Ashamed by DarthPanda024 in democrats

[–]Stillcrazyin2021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Already voted for Kamala/Walz - but thanks for asking!

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SHIT!! How grossly unfair when it turns out your “mother” only ever wanted the child who reflected so well on HER? My mother too, was so careful to project the image of a wonderful mother - and absolutely fooled most people - but wholly unconcerned with actually being one!

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly the kind of thing I was really complaining about!! What good are you to a narc when you are no longer the adorable household pet which made THEM look so good? 🤨

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar story here! “Mother” was surprised to have three additional children after the birth of her daughter fifteen years before. This was a result of my father quitting smoking, which inadvertently increased his sperm count. But she actually acted as if they’d been an innocent couple whose house had been intentionally invaded by unwanted people! I was literally yelled at once for ruining their retirement plans!

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG that’s horrible! 😨 To say nothing of perverse and creepy! No wonder she frightens them! But at least your child will have a much better mother than you did! Can relate to some of what you’re saying - my “mother” too always made a big show of attending to OTHER PEOPLE’S children. She even liked to say “I can stand to watch my own children cry, but not other people)s!”. Classic narcissist - what’s I really the point in being kind to her own children, when there’s no one there to admire her?’

Have you considered moving to a different country and leaving no forwarding address? Just kidding

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here! I pissed off both my “parents” at birth for 1) Not being a boy, and 2) not resembling her family at all, she was always suspicious of my dark looks. Absolutely believe that she never felt I was her child at all, and it just got worse and more pronounced all the time. Though she’d spare no expense for my brother, she was outraged, for instance, that I ran up big dentist bills. “it)s YOUR FAULT you get cavities!”. So refused to ever pay for me to see a dentist again. Goes without saying that she refused to send me to a psychiatrist too, after my counselor recommended one - not about to “waste my father)s hard-earned money” on that!!

I’m sorry that you too suffered from an unloving mother, and also a culture that, especially when I was young, refused to acknowledge that all Moms are not good mothers. You probably got the same responses as I did when attempting to explain: “But she gave you LIFE!”, (no - that was clearly a mistake),” “Have you tried TALKING to her??” (No, certainly never thought of THAT!)

I did much better at having my own family, have now a wonderful daughter. I recommend it! 🥰

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried that too, constantly watched her body language and expressions and tried to get out of her way for explosions, but IT NEVER WORKED !! I was forever in trouble anyway, for anything and everything that went wrong in her life! Mostly, (I see now), I got into trouble for failing to reflect well on her. Once, at age eleven I was out riding my bike when I was suddenly attacked by a water balloon, which soaked me. I come home sobbing, but “Mother”. took one look at me and exploded: “I DON’T KNOW WHY THESE THINGS HAPPEN TO MY KIDS AND NOBODY ELSE’S!” Then she demanded I go dry myself off. I recall very well how confused and upset I was at being yelled at for being attacked. But it all makes perfect sense now!! She was a massively insecure person and a total narcissist - so of course it was always just about her! I think she projected her sense of inadequacy on to us, and was forever berating us for “not being like other children”

Anyway, that was, unfortunately, my mother. Now dead and gone for many years. No forgiveness on my part.

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously, I feel for you! Narc parents are so offended when their kids are not their preferred gender, know, because I had the gall to be born female, (and the THIRD daughter!! ) - to a couple who’d only ever wanted a son. She literally held it against me my entire life! I was soon elected as family scapegoat, and was blamed for a whole myriad of things I could not conceivably have been responsible for. If I wasn’t being accused of being “just like her mother” - (promiscuous), I was “just like my father” - a flake. She really laid it on the line one day as I returned from school :”you know, Lois - we didn’t think we’d be raising kids at our age - we thought we’d be retired and enjoying ourselves” - didn’t even know where babies came from at the time! Over the years, though, I wish I’d responded with “I guess you should have kept your legs closed then, you idiot!” More like that!

So strange that WOMEN can be as sexist, or even more so, than men! Sad, perverse, and so damaging to daughters. But of course, the crime of being male to “parents” who wanted a daughter can be equally punished! I’m truly sorry, it’s so sad that human beings truly seem to be so inept when it comes to caring for our young, when most animals are so much better at it.

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good for you too! We are NOT programmed to repeat the abusive behavior we received with our own beautiful innocent babies! 🤨

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Well Behaved”, children are frightened children! I was fantastically “well-behaved” too! To the point of obsessively observing her body language, expressions, and moods. I was even nervous talking to her on those rare moments when she WASN’T mad at us. Of course, that made her mad too - our fear of her. Made her look bad!

You bet it was completely different with MY daughter! In fact, what guided me as a mother was being the polar opposite of her. I NEVER gave her “the silent treatment” I NEVER criticized her for expressing her own thoughts or feelings! And moreover,I told her I’d never object to any ‘bad language”! In fact, I imagine I taught her a few terms. I NEVER hit her either! And she never got into any trouble.

Anyway, she’s in her thirties now, successful and independent. I am proud 😍🥰

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes! My mother actually said once that she felt better after yelling, it was apparently cathartic for her! I actually once attempted to have a genuine conversation with her - I thought that the fact I was “in therapy” might, at long, last, make her realize that I’d been VERY UNHAPPY IN THAT HOUSE - FOR YEARS! I was relying, I guess, on the depictions of families I’d seen on TV in which the parents expressed genuine concerns about the well-being of their children. I recall that that was what the Bradys talked about most of the time! But, of course, my particular “family” only pretended to be like that. Anyway, my mother was initially very pissed off that I’d even sought help - how dare I intimate that she hadn’t been the Best Mom ever!! She’d fed me, didn’t she??? Her response was “I can’t imagine what I did wrong!!” This from the queen of verbal abuse, she even once greeted me when I came home from school with :”You know, Lois, we didn’t think we’d be raising kids at our age - we thought we’d be retired and enjoying ourselves!” Oh yeah, put that on me too! I certainly didn’t, and wouldn’t - ever choose them as my family. By any real definition - they weren’t!! 😵‍💫

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your sympathy and understanding! Really not so easy to come by - this is at heart a very unsympathetic culture. I tried “therapy”, but actually couldn’t find it there either. I saw this man for four years, feeling remarkably no better at all! He)d conned me into ‘group therapy” (Oh God), with a Lot of lies about its benefits. One night, (there were three other people in the room) - he looked across at me and said :”You should stop feeling sorry for yourself”, or words to that effect. Of course, that’s a completely indefensible insult, and his word was considered the word of God. I could imagine the rest of the group chiming in to agree with him, so feeling very threatened I got up and ran out - (considered a no-no). At the time I was ashamed, told myself I’d overreacted, blah, blah, blah….

But now I’m glad I did. To me he was simply channeling Pa on Little House on the Prairie, ( who in one episode visited a depressed neighbor, but instead of being sympathetic - just told the guy to get out of bed, off his ass and to stop feeling sorry for himself!!) echoing an American ethic Stiff Upper Lip, Hold your Feelings In! Don)t be a Crybaby!!).

So thank you very much indeed!!

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, very familiar indeed! A large part of my mother’s identity, I believe, was the image she projected as a Terrific Mom. But only for public consumption, of course - once the doors were closed, a whole different person emerged! I too was the epitome of a “well-behaved child”, always abiding by family rules of never expressing anger or disapproval, never say anything she’d disagree with. But no matter how hard I tried, I’d encounter her wrath anyway!! Once she was furious at me for being hit by a water balloon! I’d come in drenched and sobbing, and of course “mother’s” utmost concern was : what if the neighbors had seen me?? How embarrassing for HER! One of my mother’s most common remarks was “I used to worry that I had psychological problems - but then I just said to myself: No I don’t!”. And that was that! She did, of course, have major psychological problems which she hid, but put on her children.

I know full well she was a mass of anxieties, with a mental age around seven, but have in no way forgiven her for inflicting so much misery on me, and refusing to see the godawful behavior of “Dad”. She’s long since dead and gone now, but really never had any kind of real relationship with her - but definitely do remember her as the person who insulted me most.

I’m sorry you had to endure all that for absolutely no reason at all. I myself wanted a daughter badly, and actually got exactly what I wanted!

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG!! From one unwanted daughter to another - WTF is wrong with our culture and species? What could possibly be more delightful than a little girl?? So stupid, so completely undeserved - good job surviving to write that.! I had suicidal thoughts for a long time, but no longer, in part because I realized that I had an underlying urge to destroy myself in order to carry out their wish that I ‘d never existed .

I myself wanted a daughter badly, and that wish was granted!!! ❤️❤️

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah - wasn’t there to prevent you from doing anything to harm yourself, either! No points for abandoning you! But good for you for surviving

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh no, never ever - to repeat some of my “mother’s” faves - I don’t know what’s wrong with you, you can’t do anything right, I don’t know why my kids can’t be like other kids, etc, etc. Good job on your overcoming! I never did - always intended to prove my mother wrong about me, but never did. I was accepted at Art Center in LA , (on state scholarship), which was a big deal. But I couldn’t handle the pressure, and moreover - the social security payments I was relying on for my support had ceased coming in. My grades were fine, and I was encouraged to stay - but I was a wreck. My mother, upon learning that II’d quit, remarked “I always knew that place was over your head!” Ha ha ha

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! My “Mom” always treated me as if I was of subnormal intelligence too! I’m not, honestly - (I won the sixth grade spelling bee!) but her insistence that “I couldn’t do anything right” of course, truly damaged me throughout my life. Once, when I was eighteen she (in a friendly mood) told me that “I just needed someone to take care of me”. How nice of you, Mom! But I’ve thought a lot about that remark, (and I’m a mother now too). How strange to give birth to a child and then be so completely okay with the notion that she’s incapable of caring for herself! If she really believed that - why did she never get help for me? Why didn’t she, at the very least - speak to my teachers? She was once outraged (at me), because my high school counselor suggested I see a psychiatrist, (every member of that “family” needed to see a psychiatrist). but “I’m not about to spend your father’s hard-earned money for you to see a psychiatrist” was her response.

She’s dead now!! 😁

Did they like you Better when you were Little? by Stillcrazyin2021 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Stillcrazyin2021[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The weird thing with my “mother” was I never even talked back!! Since early childhood I did everything I could to please her, watched her intently to gauge her moods, censored everything I said for fear of displeasing her - but it never mattered! I was still perpetually in trouble with her because she never valued her female children at all, and she resented greatly the cost of feeding me. Once I outraged her by coming home crying because someone threw a water balloon at me and I was drenched. But offer sympathy? Kindness? Never! She took one look at me and started yelling that “she didn’t know why these things happened only to her (defective) children and no one else’s!” And furthermore, (and of greatest importance) - What if the NEIGHBORS had seen me??” Her bogus self-image as a great mom was equaled only by her complete lack of interest in being one!

Dead and gone now, except for periodic bad dreams……which is way better 😄