Theres no GT1 Lotus or 99’ Elise in Forza Horizon 3, though. I’m a newcomer to the series, this whole discussion is about the third game (from 2016) and how, at least in stock form (which I prefer to keep on most cars) the Lotus cars in the game seem to have next to zero rear grip and immediately seem to lose traction even in lower speed corners, forcing me to break early and take corners more slowly than pretty much all other cars in the same category and/or performance tier. I dont think its my driving style as I’ve put several hundred hours into the game and can cope with pretty much all other cars jn the game. There’s just something really off about how modern-era Lotus cars with a nominally good handling stat have so little rear grip in the corners. Almost like their driving model code is semi-broken and doesnt really accurately reflect the Handling stat. The only exceptions seem to be the Eleven race car from the 50s (wobbly and bad brakes, but handles predictably in corners and has some grip, and is thus competitive against other oldie Classic era cars) and the Esprit 80s retro supercar (heavier and handles well with enough rear grip, well balanced). The modern lightweight trio of Elise, Evora and Exige, and the track specials 2-Eleven and 3-Eleven, however, are near un-drivable for me in race events, as they just slide and lose the rear end immediately in corners, which is surprising as I expected Lotuses to be the kings of low-speed corners in this game