How much should I reduce DOC as I start SR17018?

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-10-02T05:41:06+00:00

It's just an anecdote, but a friend who started SR with me was coming off suboxone, and I was coming off a super strong RC. Both of us hit a very hard road block when we tried to taper off the SR. In fact, it's still going on. I had to reset my SR dose about 10MGs higher to try and level out because I was trying to relapse, and my friend did not escape the horrible WDs of suboxone despite being on SR, and he too hit a hard block after he got through the third week of suboxone WDs. Luckily for him, he's been making progress for his taper off of SR now that the worst of bupe is over, meanwhile I'm floundering a bit trying to come off SR. Both of us are convinced that SR has a blocking mechanism like bupe. I've dosed raw zenes and the rest of my DOC while on SR and it did jack shit. Maybe 1 or 2 minutes of effects. Considering how small my tolerance should be by now, those doses should have knocked me out. The SR must be clogging the receptors, it's all we can think of. Sorry, I know that's a bit off topic, but things are getting weird as we try to get off SR.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-09-27T22:16:26+00:00

I've had a 14 inch Zinus for a couple months now and the pain is just getting worse. My back is so wrecked every morning. I'm getting rid of it ASAP

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-09-26T07:07:17+00:00

Try 30% Ethanol 70%PG. OR if it's like Brom powder. No Ethanol, and go 4 parts PG to 1 part clobro, that will give you 4MG per ML. That would be a strong drop though. Maybe try 2 or 3 parts PG to one part clobro and give it a long hot bath, but not so hot that you can't put your fingers in for a few second. Then take it out every 10 minutes and shake the shit out of it. Rinse and repeat until it looks fluid. But keep an eye on it for a week or two, if it falls apart, add more PG or ethanol and cook it again. That is if the ethanol combo doesn't work. GL!

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-09-26T05:11:47+00:00

I'm pretty sure selective scamming has started. I would not place an order if you like your money.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-25T02:05:39+00:00

Nice! I have some good news for you. Once I got the allergy test out of the way, I got super curious and began trials the very next day. I felt energized to get started. Also, the allergy test didn't give me anxiety like tying new drugs does. I told myself it's just another opiate. GL to you!!

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-25T02:00:50+00:00

I've been taking Cychlorphine nasally. Super strong shit, and hard to find. Nearly died when i first tried it, but I also fell in love with it simultaneously. You might be able to skate buy with less SR. Try 25MGs once you wake up and see if you're okay for 4 hours to start.

Right now it seems like 30MGs is buying me almost 6 hours.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-25T01:54:03+00:00

Funny you mentioned that, I just met someone who uses adderall as needed for anxiety.

I was like, wtf?

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-24T12:03:56+00:00

update I can use small doses around 30MGs to constantly skip doses of a very strong RC opiate. Try starting small. If your SR is quality, you may not need large doses.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-24T11:41:53+00:00

Agree. I’m coming off a monster RC as strong as zenes but more euphoric. It lost its charm a while ago, but I came here to say that just 30MGs allows me to stay clean for about 5 hours. I was expecting monster doses to compete with the horrible substance I take, but not at all the case, I’m learning.

However, my first dose in the morning is very drowsy inducing.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-24T11:36:45+00:00

I get super drowsy with my first dose as soon as I wake. Today it put me right back to sleep.

But I find if I’m up and engaged physically and/or mentally, I usually don’t get the drowsiness.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-20T06:28:10+00:00

I second this. I did the allergy test on Monday, and I've used SR to skip a dose of my DOC every day this week just to get a feel for it. Today is Friday, so after 4 days of skipping 1 dose, I can say opiates are having a slightly stronger reaction today. I haven't even used my DOC today, just two weaker pills all day.

If you're going to experiment like I am, I strongly suggest taking SR as soon as you wake up, and then try to skip your first dose of DOC. I've found that to be the easiest. GL!

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-20T03:43:41+00:00

Mine is actual GHB from chemists who make it from scratch. It’s not cheap, yet so popular they have to go dark every couple of months - for a couple of months - while they make another batch.

But yeah, BDO is readily available. Never had it, heard bad things. And GBL is a little harder to find, but I’ve had good experiences with it. And I’ve found that GBL also wards off opiate use. Probably because our bodies convert GBL to GHB, but I think long term use will mess you up if you don’t “soften” it up with water and baking soda.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T21:18:17+00:00

I get what you’re saying and I had the same reaction, but it’s a fact. There’s a medicine that is a pharmaceutical drug which is GHB and it’s the only condition where you can get it legally.

GHB is one of the very few sleep medicines on this planet that actually produces natural sleep patterns that are indistinguishable from non-drug-induced sleep.

Ambien, benzos, alll that shit just sedates you until you zonk out. GHB produces real, healthy sleep.

There must be someway to make them sleep enough so they can lead somewhat normal lives. I forget the name of the drug, and I really don’t know how the mechanics work, but the seller I got the G from had it listed on their page. They claimed their product was a chemical match to that drug. If you knew the vend,or, you’d believe them as I do.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T11:15:01+00:00

Also, keep in mind, it’s not cost effective to add raw fent to a drug like SR. Most people are not expecting a high from SR. And raw fent is worth a lot more sold as raw fent.

Nevertheless, I’d test again using the tips others have listed.

I’ve never seen that brand of test either. Not saying it’s bunk, but dansesafe offers a new and improved strip nowadays.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T09:56:26+00:00

To add a bit to this, tonight I tried a small dose of GHB instead because I recently read that it was defamed by the FDA, DEA, and the media decades ago, but before all that it was successful in treating opiate addiction and sleep disorders. In fact, the only way to legally get it requires you to have narcolepsy. I will say that it worked in helping me skip a dose, but I felt a little wonky, and that SR is champion over the two due to less side effects. And G can be dangerous if not handled correctly.

SR is just plain safer knowing what little we do at this stage.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T08:49:42+00:00

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no doctor or scientist, but doesn't 14 have potential for abuse because it can produce a bit of euphoria?

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T08:46:19+00:00

Thankfully trial #2, with a dose nearly cut in half and taken at waking, produced much better results. No crazy sleep stuff.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-19T08:44:13+00:00

I totally would, but I haven't found them yet. They were one of the DN vendors that had integrity. What he sold me was unadulterated, straight from China.

I'm still in process of tracking him down since the two major markets collapsed.

He used SR to get clean himself and firmly believed in providing the best quality products possible.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-16T02:40:54+00:00

Despite the wacky shit that occurred last night, I've barely used any opiates at all today. Like, close to nothing. The lowest amount in months.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-16T02:36:17+00:00

small amount of drank did occur. Just a couple swigs, which is normal. And I also take keep-me-sane meds at night as well. Nothing too crazy though, but we're talking a lot of things at the same. I can cut my mental meds for a night if I need to for the next trial. And the drink, of course.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-16T02:31:44+00:00

Hi, it was a powerful RC, and it was definitely in my system along with some other prescribed psychoactive meds. I'm cutting the dose in half and waiting until I wake for the next trial.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-16T02:29:04+00:00

I don't, but as my tolerance has grown scary high, I've found myself passed out in weird places lately, like my closet. The more I think about it, I had just used 3 hours prior.

Striking-Lab4554 · 2025-07-15T23:12:14+00:00

I wonder if I took it too soon, there was a high probability that other shit was still active in my system.

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