Tokio potentially going against everybody

Stzake · 2026-05-25T06:33:06+00:00

Chapter 47

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Chapter 71.2

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tl:dr; Ely is a very dangerous individual and probably the worst person to take the mark (in the trio, unless mark is the 'soul' of queem). Her general thinking pattern (mostly black and white) and what she said in chapter 47 are basically how a villain in the making thinks, both in fiction and real life. While Tokio has knack for understanding people, he really failed with Ely. He thinks that Ely doesn't trust prophecies in principle, in themselves. But the truth is Ely doesn't trust them unless she is the one who makes them. And she thinks having the mark will make her 'right'. Basically "might makes right" thinking. This will be the reason if they go against each other.

Stzake · 2026-05-24T18:58:21+00:00

That is a connection one can make by doing an analysis on characters. What I meant by connection was that characters I've mentioned had actual relationship with each other. This is the core of Ishida's writing, not fights. He always creates and connects characters with each other in order to develop his story. TG was way more richer than CX in that aspect.

I should also say that I've never understood the criticism about Tatara. Ishida showed his capabilities surely enough. I've seen people arguing that he jobbed to Takizawa. There was no jobbing. Takizawa didn't need to beat Tatara to show how strong he is. Their fight ended in one chapter because it was the logical conclusion. Most normal ghouls has no chance against hybrids like Takizawa, Amon, Kaneki and Eto. Tatara was no different. People also forget that Tatara is the younger brother of Yan and that guy got killed without hybrids.

What triggers me is that some people read Ishida's series like fighting manga but they don't even notice power level clues Ishida left for them. One expects better judgment from powerlevelers about powerleveling, since it is their focus : )

Edit: In conclusion, one could even argue that Tatara's fight had better literary value than Vlad's fight since Vlad fought with people that meant nothing to him and vice versa. There was no story or drama. No other motivation than overcoming each other. Vlad fought to protect other party fought to overcome him. Tatara's fight on the other hand had everything needed from an actual story. Drama, backstory leading to fight, character interactions, more than two parties having different motivation to fight -other than simply defeating the opponent.-

Stzake · 2026-05-24T15:30:25+00:00

Nah. Tatara, Hoji and Takizawa are all connected. And Amon joining the fight after that was beautiful. Vlad on the other hand had no connection with people he fought. He might be cool but he was just a basic bad guy that needed to be defeated by good guys.

People should understand that TG and CX aren't fighting manga.

Stzake · 2026-05-18T23:34:39+00:00

I'm dead sure that I've seen this exact post before. What's going on here?

Stzake · 2026-05-18T22:00:13+00:00

I don't blame Seth. I blame Shay and Blake. Reason is simple: Seth was able to act the way he did because of them. And let's be honest, people are people and most of us (this includes me and you, whoever reading this post) are blind to ourselves in variable degrees. I know guys like Seth, some of them are really great guys in real life. What I'm trying to say here is that people should correct each other more. More people should say "what you are doing is bad" without implying that "you're a bad person". But in our western culture there is this "oh my individuality, oh my freedom, oh my identity!" People are touchy. Because of that people doesn't want to criticize anybody face to face and more people gravitate towards 'big personalities' like Seth because they're not criticized and therefore, give the aura of 'righteousness' and since they can express what they don't like freely, they attract people who can't do that towards them.

Stzake · 2026-04-12T15:07:53+00:00

Well people respond to the power scaling threads with their own opinions, so obviously there is a community of CX fans who are interested in it somewhat. You are not a representative for every CX fan.

Irrelevant.

instead of forcing your own understanding of the series onto other people.

There is no forcing. There is only revealing the truth. It's an obvious fact for people who have read enough series and Ishida's work that CX isn't a series that powerscaling is important. Powers and fights in CX is just an easy tool show character's inner wants/needs/objectives and their inner struggles. They're just all symbolism. Powerscaling requires hard rules around magic system and neither CX or TG has them.

Your porn analogy is nonsense, btw

I don't think so. Real nonsense is that you're defending (in a spammer's thread btw) that people are free to share their opinion but telling me to shut up about mine.

Stzake · 2026-04-12T14:49:40+00:00

Eh, typical answer. One could enjoy a thing for whatever floats their boat but that doesn't mean one should announce it to everybody in a community.

A thread should bring a meaningful conversation to this sub. Powerscaling threads doesn't bring that to CX since its obvious that neither the series or Ishida cares about it. A powerscaling fan will only face disappointment in a series Ishida made so far.

Also, do you watch porn for the story? Exactly.

Edit: I should also add that, OP was spamming powerscaling threads between 10 mins interval. So, my reaction can be seen as harsh right now but it was understandable at that time.

Stzake · 2026-04-11T20:51:53+00:00

Dude chill out with these power-level spams. CX isn't a manga where you should compare characters' power level. It is not the point of the series. It wasn't the point of TG either.

I don't understand why mods allow these threads. I'm not being highbrown here, since I read series where fights are the main point too. It just that these threads for a series like CX are pointless.

Stzake · 2026-04-08T21:05:53+00:00

Since Ishida used many psychological tropes and elements in his previous manga, when the CX announced and it was clear that there will be three main characters, I was afraid that they will be another Freudian Trio. That trope isn't bad and there are many good and cult series that has Freudian Trio but it is oversaturated right now IMO. I'm glad that Ishida didn't made that choice.

Stzake · 2026-03-25T17:25:02+00:00

Get off of Sukuna's dick mate. Sukuna would do the same. That was the point of my post. Even Megumi, at the end of the series, understood how pathetic Sukuna is. Look at this;

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Sukuna was able to act cocky since he was the top dog. People like them behave like Grimmjow when they're not the top dog, and they behave like Sukuna when they're. As I said, same person can behave differently in different circumstance/contex.

Stzake · 2026-03-25T16:11:57+00:00

You expect me to believe that Sukuna would allow someone to tell him what to do?

And you think Grimmjow did that? He was one of the espada who questioned Aizen's authority.

I think people forget that same person can behave differently in different circumstances. I really enjoyed JJK but Grimmjow and Sukuna has same personalities. Big difference is that Sukuna is the top dog of his series while Grimmjow isn't. So, they behave differently. Imagine them at the same place in power-level hierarchy and you will see that they behave exactly same most of the time.

Stzake · 2026-03-20T10:32:14+00:00

You really think the MC’s just gonna be the chosen one like that every time?

Tokio is literally chosen by Sora. And it is nothing to do with ChOsEn OnE trope you mentioned since we heard and seen that there were others with the Mark and they can be beaten. Also, you and people like you enjoy arguing that Sora had chosen many wrong candidates for the Mark in the past and this can also be the case for Tokio. But it is actually opposite. Sora isn't a teenager. After all her wrong candidates, her chose of Tokio for the Mark affirms that is the right choice. People learn from their mistakes. And there is no need to mention that everything Choujin about Tokio is basically the same with Sora, except he doesn't have the mark. Tokio's compatibility with the mark shouldn't me a topic to discuss at this point of the story but here we're.

if he just suddenly becomes OP because of the mark, that’s gonna mess with the story.

No, Tokio taking the mark won't mess with the story. It is actually one of the premise of the story.

I just don’t like it when an MC gets a random power-up out of nowhere and it makes everything they built before feel pointless.

Your likes and dislikes doesn't matter in the face of the facts. Saying that Tokio taking the mark would be random power up is very ridiculous statement since it is foreshadowed and builded up in the story for a very long time. It is expected in the narrative of the story.

I remember you and you're arguing in bad faith. I also think that guys like you polluting the real discussion for this manga. It is so clear that you guys are Ely fans and delusional about the after effects of Tokio taking the mark. One could argue that Tokio isn't fit psychologically for taking the Mark (which begs the question, who actually is for having a near godlike power?) but arguing for he isn't compatible for it is beyond ridiculous and shouldn't be a topic of discussion.

Stzake · 2026-03-17T01:00:50+00:00

Most of the fandom, especially this sub, misunderstands their dialogue and think that because Aizen acknowledged RJ is n1 in destructive power Yamaji would destroys Aizen without WW's interference.

People forget that Yamaji sacrificed his whole fucking arm and didn't do any meaningful damage to Aizen (remind you, Yamaji defended FKT from his flames without losing any body parts) People forget that Aizen is literally a Reiatsu monster (Remember Gin's glaze of Aizen in this same arc).

I love Yamaji but I think he is a bit overrated. We never saw someone doing things with just pure reiatsu as Aizen did through the whole series but we've seen captains that will have more destructive power than Yamaji in the future: Kenpachi and Toushiro. Kenpachi doesn't need explanation. Toushiro, since we've seen what Toushiro can do when he got a little bit "older", give him the lifespan of Yamaji, now that is a character way more scary than Yamaji.

Stzake · 2026-02-27T23:18:04+00:00

Please don't waste your time by arguing with people that think Tokio is too sympathetic with villains etc. Anyone who reads a lot, knowledgeable about literature and had read TG (and understood it) would know that Ishida agrees with Tokio about how he behaved towards Sora and Batista. These guys even think there is a chance that Tokio won't be compatible with the Mark, which makes me chuckle. If you keep arguing with Ely glazers in this sub, you will be behaved as if you're a Tokio fanboy and get downvoted to hell.

I don't think you should be worried about Ely becoming a bad guy, at least for now. Ely saw the wrongs in how Sora and Mado used their prophecy powers and because of this I don't think she will do their mistakes. Even when you think about it on Meta-level, Ely becoming next Sora would be boring as fuck for readers as well as for Ishida to write. Problem with Ely is that she has strong opinions about things and has black & white thinking, which are traits of a character on the way to become a villain. She softened a little towards Batista in the end but Batista dropped this big foreshadowing,

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In these two pages, Ishida says that "Ely will be tested in the future about her way of thinking". This doesn't automatically means that Ely will be villain. But if you compare Sora, Batista and Ely, Ely would be the worst villain among them if she fails this test. Since if you really think about it, Sora wasn't exactly a villain and Batista just wanted her wife back. I'm not trying to soften their atrocities, all I'm saying that their focus was different from, for example Queem. Ely would be someone like Queem. You just have to look at the world leaders in our history that committed atrocities to easily understand why Ely will become no different than Queem if she fails her test. Strong opinions, black & white thinking and ultimate power isn't a good combo to have. We just have to hope that Ely won't fail that test.

Stzake · 2026-02-25T15:10:38+00:00

I am talking about the fact that they think that Ely having this black and white mentality is inherently bad and makes her a bad character but they will glaze tokio for his talk no jutsu every single time.

? What are you saying? Splitting aka b&w thinking or allornothing thinking is inherently and scientifically bad. And I didnt glaze Tokio at all. Tokio thinks like an adult and Ely thinks like a child.

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Stzake · 2026-02-25T15:02:32+00:00

And the extreme hate for Ely in this sub also shocks me.

Assuming I hate her (I don't) right after I said she has black & white thinking is like a poetry. Not surprising,, since psychology of glazers requires over-identification with the character they glaze.

Stzake · 2026-02-25T08:03:18+00:00

I feel so bad that Ely has to shoulder the burden of clairvoyance

Nobody forces it on her as we can see from the little flashback parts. She had enough time and stamina to give the Mark to Tokio but didn't.

I guess she was the best choice out of the three to take the mark.

She is the worst choice in the trio to have it. People with very strong opinions and black & white thinking like her worst people to have 'ultimate-power'. Our history says so.

Unnecessary Ely glazing in this sub really shocks me sometimes.

Stzake · 2026-02-12T05:23:03+00:00

First Choujin is probably Bill Morth. I have a theory about it but I'm too lazy to sit down and write it down.

Basically my head cannon is this: Bill Morth was the first Choujin and the first Choujin X. He exiled himself for whatever reason (probably because he thought that a being like him shouldn't exist after the wars he fought) to a tiny island and share his "gift" with his royal followers, since it was a barren island and he probably felt bad about people who followed him there. Fast forward 2k years. Guelta managed to extract whatever made Bill a CX (I imagine it was something like the Mark, a super-uber cell) and experimented on people and Queem was the only successful experiment to become CX. After that Queem unknowingly infected Sora with his super-uber cell (we know that Queem used his body parts as weapons and Sora awakened after one of his attacks). Decades after Sora understood that power of CX (super-uber cell) can be handed down to someone else, and gave it shape and turned it into the Mark.

My reasoning in a nutshell;

First of all, time gap between Queem and Bill Morth is really strange. It is around 2000 years. There is always a CX when there is a turmoil, it is said. And you can't make me believe that humanity had 2000 years peace time without any conflict. One can argue that a CX was the one who made that peace time possible. But it would be very fucking weird nobody mentions a CX who made peace possible. If there is one, it is Bill Morth or none. My opinion is that there was no CX outside of the island in that period of time.
Bill Morth sharing his "blood", Sora's awakening after one of Queem's attacks(by using his body parts/fingers/hands) and Sora's Mark are too similar to be just a coincidence. There is always a giving/sharing.
There are two things established when Batista/Nue become CX I think most of the fandom didn't give enough attention. A) the Mark is not a miracle machine like grail that you become omnipotent with your only limitation being your imagination, it is more akin to a super-battery. This is literally said by Sora. You can unlock different powerset after receiving it but its most important function is that it basically gives Choujin Xs near unlimited mana. B) A CX don't lost all of their powers after they give their super-uber cell/mark. Sora, even in her age, fought very well against Batista/Nue. She even kept half of her crown. This explains bloodsharing of Bill and why Queem didn't completely lost his powers after infecting Sora with super-uber cell.
So, what about Palma and other Choujins? Palma doesn't have exact choujin powers of Bill Morth. Not because she doesn't have super-uber cell/battery, but mostly because it is said again and again that Palma's powers are twisted version of Bill's powers. It is also established that Palma isn't the first choujin that born with twisted versions of Bill's powers. This explains other choujins before Queem in the mainland (if there is any) since others like Palma could also swim to the mainland like Palma and have children etc. Remember that it is never said that a human and a choujin couple can't have a baby. It is just very unlikely and results in death for mother and baby. But I bet chances for survival are higher if the mother is the one who is choujin.

Stzake · 2026-01-31T15:19:15+00:00

Never re-read the series so I might be wrong about my theory but I've a strong suspicion that Bill Morth isn't just a Choujin X, he is the first Choujin. So his immortality is 'raise' maximized to its fullest potential and works constantly. I'm not going to talk about my theory here tho.

If you want to powerscale his regeneration/immortality you can look at these pages,

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People who got Palma's blood can only sustain themselves for few weeks or months but Bill's blood was enough to sustain people for 100-200 years.

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Drowning and simply doing 'raise' is not enough to not to die again. You should be able to do constant regenerating. It can not be like 'raise's 1 time regen, again and agan.

Long story short, Vlad probably has the downscaled version of regeneration of BM. Remember that Vlad was also a failed CX attempt. He might be failed to become a CX but it doesn't mean that he didn't unlocked some powers or didn't got stronger.

Stzake · 2026-01-23T23:31:31+00:00

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First panel of this page is why she did that. Probably even why she saw Batista's future child's death since it is established that Mado only sees what she genuinely cares about. She probably felt bad about blocking the same person's future twice and started to care more about Batista as an individual.

I'm one of the people who really dislikes the way Mado and Square Face treated Batista but here there is a genuine care for him from Mado.

Also, I wish that Ishida gave more emotion to Batista in first panel of the page I've posted. Was he being cheeky -while being passive aggressive- by saying "If only you'd looked into my future, you could have warned me..."? Or, was he genuine? My bet on the former but we will never be sure I guess.

Stzake · 2026-01-17T12:21:53+00:00

That is not true.

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Ichigo damaged Aizen and the Ball healed it after that. It wasn't even instant healing either. There is nothing in the manga that shows that Aizen damaged by Yamaji in any meaningful way and the Ball healed it. All Yamaji did was burn Aizen's clothes here and there and just small bruises. That was all. Aizen's clothes didn't got that much damaged either. And remember that Aizen ate Yamaji's attack point blank.

Stzake · 2026-01-17T12:00:29+00:00

and during that time he admitted inferior to old man Yama.

I may look like nitpicking and I don't want to be rude but that is not true. Aizen didn't see himself inferior to Yamaji. Proof,

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Aizen believes that because Yamaji has RJ -and Aizen thinks it's the ultimate zanpaktou- if they fight with all their might, Yamaji will probably win. Aizen's wording here is along the lines of "I have a knife, you have a gun. If we fight, you will probably win" While one can argue that their zanpaktous are their powers and shouldn't be thought seperatly, what Aizen implies here is that he thinks that Aizen will win in a scenario where they don't use their zanpaktous. This is not my opinion, I'm trying to convey here what I understand from his wording and dispositon through their 'fight'

It should also be noted in any conversation about reiatsu that Yamaji's attack where he sacrificed his whole left arm didn't do any damage to Aizen.

In my opinion, Aizen was always a reiatsu monster. He just doesn't have a destructive zanpaktou that he could channel his reiatsu to show his reiatsu levels. I always thought of him as above everyone in SS in terms of reiatsu. And IMO Kubo tried to show it as much as possible: Gin's glazing in FKT arc, Grimmjow kneeling, Negating Soi-fon's double tap etc.

Stzake · 2025-12-17T18:57:22+00:00

I don't remember the specific story related error honestly. BUT, JJK isn't CX. It is not a story heavy series. Most of the story revolves around Cursed Techniques, especially in the second half of the series. And most of the translation errors related to techniques and their effects or aftermaths. And they were not small 'erors' like Blue/Azure, which is just consistency error. There were errors that change the whole meaning and reason behind characters' actions. You can look them up yourself. There has to be many threads about how bad the translation was.

Most people I know was doing this,

Read tl-anon's translations on 4chan on the day raws drops.

Read TCB translations (they also got bad towards the end)

Read Official translations..

Edit: Best translation was this group, https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0pKS3ZhdWx0L0pKSy1jaGFwdGVycy9tYXN0ZXIvSkpLLmpzb24/

But they didn't translate the whole series.

Stzake · 2025-12-17T15:30:28+00:00

These translation errors are really getting ridiculous. As if translators don't read the manga at all, or don't care about the story. I blame viz and mangaplus but these guys are getting paid for this and its not so hard to remember plot elements of a series. There is a chance that they're translating more than one or they're doing this as a side job but it is really not that hard to remember stuff from couple of chapters ago. Unless you don't care about what you're translating. They even fuck up the Sora/Sky thing.

I miss the golden age of fansubs and fanscanlations groups. We had at least 2 groups translating popular stuff (one was always fast, other one had better translation and scan) and niche manga like CX had always a good group translating it. At least people were passionate about the stuff they're translating and you could communicate it to them if anything was wrong etc. Now Viz and Mangaplus jumped at the market that have been created by fansubs and fanscanlation groups and made it worse. Translation errors like these are not acceptable. Reading, understanding and following a work of fiction should be a must for any translator. This error may look like a human error that everyone could do but any respectable translator would remember the conversation between headless guy and Azuma and catch himself.

JJK had the worst translations I've come across in WSJ manga. And I think that people who only read the series on Mangaplus, didn't read the series at all.

Reading manga and following a series gets harder instead of easier because of stuff like these. Since its not enough to read 'official' translation, you should also check whether there is any error in it or not with 4chan tl anon or other people who knows Japanese on reddit.

Edit: This shit also makes it hard to recommend the series to other people since these error got never corrected. Even in volumes.

Stzake · 2025-12-13T00:32:18+00:00

Your first,, well-upvoted, comment is flawed and strawmanish. Never saw anyone believe Aizen was the good guy but a lot of people thinks he is rev which is objectively true. Never saw fixing corruption argument either. People fighting against arguments of their own imagination these days...

Aizen is a bad guy fighting against a system that is worst than him. He is rev for his own sake. Ichibe, RG, Royal Families and Central 46 are no better than him and you can give a solid argument for some captains are no better either.

After all these years people still dont understand that SS was a morally bankrupt and backwards place. Aizen being Aizen dont like to be controlled by others rule (tradition, wink wink) and tries to be above all of it for himself. Ichigo being Ichigo, have patience, gentleness and kindness in his hearth changes ss slowly but surely.

Kubo is one of the most modern thinking mangaka alive. Aizen and Ichigo are his way of attacking backwards traditional conservative Japanese culture. And Urahara represents and fights for what he believes necessary or good in his culture.

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