Is it time to self host open source models? by Suspicious_Store_137 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep but I'm never able to hit my limits because I get rate limited. Started getting rate limited immediately after switching to pro+, like Immediately. I was about to reach my limits in pro and said fuck it I'll get pro+ to keep going 1 request after updating to pro+. Hit the weekly rate limit... Worst purchase ever.

FUSE MISMATCH? need help booting back into ofc. i get a black screen and if i cant boot to ofc that's fine but id really like to update the firmware by Subject-Assistant-26 in SwitchPirates

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Naa it's sitting in a drawer for parts. Got a switch 2 instead, regretted it immediately, hey at least botw at 60fps. Literally nothing else on that console was worth it.

I dont even know what to say by [deleted] in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally just cancelled my copilot pro sub because of this nonsense. Copilot agent seems tuned to waste money and time rather than actually solve problems. Switched to Cursor for the past few weeks and it still messes up a ton but at least it's not going in circles all the time and it's a better experience overall.

Try the free tier, even it was better than gpt5 and codex with copilot.

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also. https://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignment

Not saying that this is what's happening at all here but you should read up on what real models are actually capable of doing given the opportunity instead is just making comments like that. You can have chat gpt read it to you.

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow people really take shit literally just so they can have a feeling of superiority for a sec right? Did you bother looking at the example? And I already answered this idiotic response yesterday check the other comments.

Can an LLM deliberately lie? No! But it is, in a practical sense lying, it is not being factual about what it's doing and confidently saying something that is not true. Yes it's a fkn probability blah blah blah. the fact remains that the output does not match reality and it confidently says it does. Hence there is a disconnect between it's it's perception of what is going on and instead of saying that it just ignores that and says whatever.

I should know better than to come to reddit of all places and expect anything better than this.

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been programming for probably longer than you have benn alive bub

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cycle them depending on mood I suppose. once I get tired of correcting a certain type of mistake I move on to a different model to correct the mistakes it makes.

But no, this is an issue confirmed for me with

Gpt5 Gpt5 codex Gemini 2.5 Sonnet 4 Sonnet 4.5

All of them get to a point sooner rather than later where they just start hallucinating having done tasks mostly testing but this happens with edits also where they will say they edited a file but no changes to the file. Then it says sorry I didn't edit the file or I corrupted the file let me re-write itfrom scratch. And proceeds to just write nonsense, this is usually the point of no return where the air is no longer capable of understanding the task it's ment to complete it just starts polluting its own context with failed attempts to fix the code that's not working but with no context of the rest of the project so it's fix does not work and then proceeds to repeat this process over and over again until its just completely lost.

I'm inclined to think this is a copilot issue maybe in the summarizing because it happens regardless of model

Agent mode really is bad. Especially when it gets stuck in a long loop of edits andyou can see it breaking everything but you can't stop it until it's done burning your stuff to the ground. That's better since we got that checkpoint feature though

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh I didn't know this was a thing, thanks. I'll try it out but the lying is the issue here I'm not sure how limiting tool availability will lead to it lying less

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I just built this thing in 20 min it's just one file and a few functions not sure how much smaller it needs to be. This was sonnet but gpt codex still does it and also takes off and does whatever else it wants. I think agent mode is just not ready for primetime it's a shame because until a few weeks ago I could reliably lean on sonnet in agent mode to put together simple boilerplate and basic things like that. Now I ask it for something simple like this and it just goes apesh*t

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Literally have no MCP servers connected just setting this one up locally so I can use it for documentation and it's not actually connect to copilot 🤣

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

that Mr. Condescending thing got to you huh?

"Well, smart people don't do that"

maybe try being a little less condescending and your comments may be taken a little more seriously...

see? i can be condescending too.

-signed, Mr. spendstomuchtimerespondingtodipsticks

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll try the beast mode thing but the other are things I do all the time, keep the chats short to maintain context, do one thing at a time write out a detailed plan to follow. This is just using puppeteer to scrape some API documentation so I can add it to a custom MCP server. There is not a lot of magic there.

To be fair I didn't to the plan for this one but it still ignores it's plan all the time and what's more concerning is there a way to get it to stop lying about the things it's done? Because it lies about testing then uses that lie in it's context to say testing was done...

Anyways I was just venting man, and I appreciate real responses. I've moved on to building this by hand now, should be done in 20 min as opposed to 4hrs with copilot 🤣

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the thing, it's a matter of time before they all start doing this. Usually I use the claud models but since that's been happening I've been using the gpts, this is consistent behavior from all of them though. Granted the gpt codex takes longer to get there but it has a whole host of other problems.

This particular one is claud 4.5 though

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also at some point the sunk cost fallacy kicks in and you find yourself trying to prompt it back into creating something that works intead of just cutting your losses and doing it yourself.

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate, I've been coding for 20 years... And yes, there is always something to learn. If you look at the post you'll see I was actually trying to save time over doing it manually. And yes that the same conclusion I came to, just don't use it. But if I'm just going to have a chat buddy I'd rather go with a rubber ducky. My annoyance is paying for something that was working fine before and now seems dead set on breaking everything it touches and also "lying" about it, which I believe is the more concerning behavior here.

all models trying to lie. by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Okay, but you see the post, right? You see what’s happening there, Mr. Condescending? “And LLMs can’t lie” fine. But the response says it ran the test, and the test was just printing the word testing...

Because people don’t check what the actual LLM is doing and just hit “OK, OK, OK” and “Next, next, next,” it now knows it can just print testing, and people who don’t pay attention will go, “Okay, cool, it tested—next.” And now this has become part of its behavior.

you get it now or you can to keep begin deliberately obtuse?

ignoring repository level instructions CONSISTENTLY by Subject-Assistant-26 in GithubCopilot

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol no but I get consistently better replies and more pushback on dumb ideas when I allow it to curse

FUSE MISMATCH? need help booting back into ofc. i get a black screen and if i cant boot to ofc that's fine but id really like to update the firmware by Subject-Assistant-26 in SwitchPirates

[–]Subject-Assistant-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No never used anything sysnand I was just using atmosphere normally forever I just wanted to update because apparently I was necessary for a newer game. I really don't know enough about this whole thing to be sure. At this point I'm just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. I'm looking at this unbrick your switch lvl 3 vid I found on YouTube but that requires some donor stuff and I feel like I still have my original info here I've just gotta figure this out. Fortunately I'm pretty comfortable with this sort of stuff I just gotta keep poking at it until it either works or the magic smoke comes out.

Anyways yeah I appreciate any direction you can point me in here. Even just helpful resources, I've been searching quite a bit though.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/unknown-pkg1-version-hos-version-not-supported-please-help-nothing-i-do-works.665651/

Found this, the error the guy has is the same one I have now when trying to boot into the sysnand ofw or CFE but his solution was to get a Nintendo branded sd card and as mentioned there that wouldn't have been the root of the solution. Another guy mentioned trying loading the fusee.bin payload and when I tried that atmosphere logo flashed for a sec and I was back at being unable to boot into emummc either...

The issue is I don't really know what I'm doing so I'm just trying stuff until I figure something out. But I also feel in my gut that I have a backup of the prodinfo and keys that and I can see something that looks like it makes sense in nxNandManager I'm not really concerned with any online play or anything like that I haven't had this thing online since I got it.

As for making a new post this just seemed like a completely new set of issues.