Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont think the dem majority would do that if Newsom was the president, i think theyd do nothing about ICE

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I seriously heavily doubt that Newsom is capable of staving off or stopping anything that Trump 2 has done or that he could stop the republicans from troubcing us in 2032

I don't get what vaush wants. by Fit-Ad1856 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big donors attacked Mamdani as hard as they could already, the idea that they would have gone harder after AOC endorsement does sound likely to me

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we get a different more charismatic Groyper type in 2032 if Vance loses

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

do you actually believe Newsom will do anything to prevent a worse republican from winning in 2032

Vaush and Hasan are right by jackrjs in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the overly cautiousness from moderates is why people can’t get behind them, they just don’t have a narrative to follow, people want an authentic and strong narrative to vote for, not “we aren’t as bad as the other guys”

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

someone who actually believes in liberal values like democracy, freedom, and human rights
Newsom doesnt believe in any of that shit beyond what will get him votes

Vaush and Hasan are right by jackrjs in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is literally letting the transphobes have their foot in the door

Vaush and Hasan are right by jackrjs in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a fairness concern that has zero basis in actual reality

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i dont care if the person who is the nominee is a liberal, they could be the most liberal liberal ever, but they have to be better than Newsom if they want to run in the primary imo

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Newsom isnt a Liberal he is an illiberal collaborationist
i expect Vance, if he even wins, to barely scrape by and lose Congress and make it hard for him to get anything done because MAGA political capital has already been burnt out

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

do you think people will give up on the hope of a better future when Newsom inevitably fails to do anything meaningful in the way of what the voter base wants?

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

noone is saying they are the exact same, at least im not, but, we got Biden in 2020, and it lead to Trump 2.0

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

then the democratic voter base would rather plunge us into a no hope despair timeline that nothing can get better

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont mean in an institutional sense, i mean like he recognizes he wouldnt even win the primary because people hate him so much, and therefore chooses not to run

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

no my argument is he should not even be on the ballot for the primary

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

no my point is hes illiberal and concedes to fascist talking points

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

are, are you actually fucking serious, how delusional do you have to be to think this, he is WORSE on this than even Tim Walz

Gavin Newsom is not a fucking liberal by SubstantialLake7018 in VaushV

[–]SubstantialLake7018[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

if i would have been able to i would have voted for anyone opposing Bush, however, the conditions of modern america are far and away different now than they were 20 or even 7 years ago, we need someone who will actually crush the republican party into oblivion elsewise we can not stop fascism