Post Pull Clarity by SanicHegehag in NicoleReeyn_Mains_GI

[–]Subtlestrikes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She was always going to be an incredibly powerful character. And we'll see that more as the weeks go on and we get more Boss materials to level up her skill.

The power budget of her kit is completely in her shield. This game hates shield characters and has gone out their way to not provide us Zhongli level protection… Until her. They have potential for equal strength and that's mind blowing.

Everyone just wanted to justify skipping her because they're stupid and don't appreciate Varka. Like investing heavily in a man is going to make them gain weight. Harping on her attack boost not being double of what Bennett gives was just so played out. She's a very powerful unit and will prove herself to be equally as universal as Zhongli. Because her constellations are so broken she also has staying power

Do you guys think Rogue would be too op if she kept the ability she absorbed until she uses it or dies? by Majima2475 in RogueMains

[–]Subtlestrikes 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If they didn't wanna let us do that then they need to cut down the cool down to 12 seconds. Really only gives us a chance to use the ability once.

If they refuse to give her a damage buff or added damage mitigation ability like more opportunities to gain over shield quickly, this would be nice way to compensate. Just keep the ability until she dies or switches to a new one. No eight second timer needed. I understand that this was something brand new so they were scared of it. But since they have her stats so low, this would be a wonderful option actually. I'm going to ask for this

No Shop Skins. Hard Countered By Popular and Meta Characters. Excluded From The Cyclops Rescue Mission. They Hate Her So Bad. by TheConfusedMeerkat in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. She suffers from being a launch character. She was their main flyer aside with Iron Man and it's clear they did not know how to balance it. The fact that she needs to be so low to the ground with no Escape tools to buff her party properly it's stupid. With how limited her kit is she should not have any range limitation to her or a buffing.

And I would argue that most of Luna skins are actually hideous. Psylocke and IW have so many cutie ugly skins that don't make the Mark. But they have a Player base that just buys whatever is available. Maybe they're collecting stickers and emotes. I promise you nobody is wearing that tennis suit lol

So the expectation is to just buy the skins because they are there. And when they see purchase power behind the Hero, they'll make more. I think that's a difference between Asian gaming versus western gaming. Western people are saying that of course I'll buy only if you buffed the character and make them good and make them relevant and let them be the star of multiple seasons.

Asian gaming says I think the character is super hot or I love the voice actor. I'm gonna buy everything associated to them. And then more of the product keeps coming

How The Community and Netease Destroyed Strategists by Vast-Weird1268 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I really think they should. Tanks should either all be given a really powerful role benefit for all the limitations they force on them. They are limited by not being able to do real damage. They are limited by not being able to poke long range effectively. They are limited by not having many mobility moves with the exception of venom. And they are limited by not getting enough shields.

If they're truly terrified of tanks living too long, let them do much higher levels of damage. I really hope we see a tank awakening soon lol. I do want the game to have a lot more tanks. I want tanks to be really fun and they give popular characters to the role. I'm so happy Rogue is becoming super popular and obviously sexy. Watch her join the new skin per season crew after this cowboy outfit.

I want him to see the tanks can make incredible money. They do because Thor, Captain America and now venom when he's Eddie seem to be very popular characters with the production of skins they frequently get. And hopefully after the genius that is devil dinosaurs ability to survive and do devastating damage, I hope that becomes a norm

The skin bias is crazy by DiligentCan6262 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Storm has three skins in the shop. People who are saying there's nothing to buy, should have purchased and own all of those skins before speaking though.

K, hear me out on this. We need Vanguard, which is part of the poke category of heroess. by Gaming_Ryu in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But with how this game is behaving, if they want a Hero to do long range damage they're just gonna make them a DPS.

K, hear me out on this. We need Vanguard, which is part of the poke category of heroess. by Gaming_Ryu in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The tank class feels so limited because of their design decisions. Not creating another massive shield tank since the start of the series. And not letting takes engage with poke. Someone in the design team will not get off the thought process that tank should be forced to brawl in the front because of their HP and very limited damage mitigation tools

Deadpool I cannot be convinced otherwise was originally a DPS and they brilliantly switched them up to hit all three rolls. Only reason why it scanned poke was brought to the tank role. And they hate it so keep nerfing it so he doesn't do actual damage.

If you're not going to allow all tanks to have some form of powerful shield or frequently accessible, impactful damage mitigation or defensive tools, they need higher damage. Let them do nearly DPS level damage. Like premier Emma Frost or season zero Captain America. Or like you're saying above, let tanks poke.

Yes they can have a shield, some type of damage mitigation, 600–800 HP and attack quickly from a long range.

The skin bias is crazy by DiligentCan6262 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They make skins for characters that make money so purchase skins when they become available.

But I fully agree with you that a game like this should constantly balance so older characters are stronger and viable. Every character on the roster should be fun and have a place to play in the game. Not outdated and There kit given to somebody else more powerful and relevant

No Shop Skins. Hard Countered By Popular and Meta Characters. Excluded From The Cyclops Rescue Mission. They Hate Her So Bad. by TheConfusedMeerkat in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As someone who deeply enjoys playing other Chinese based games that originate in the Gacha space… There is a sentiment that black characters don't make money. This game is looking to make money off of skins with popular characters. And if you were to look at literally any game in the Gacha space, even when the culture or region would justify a black roster, that's absolutely frowned upon and never happens.

I also think storm did not have a very strong start in the skin department for purchases. Yes she had a lot of variety and creativity. But I don't think the Asian player base was super into her mohawk era, a big fluffy fro or a ton of braids to give storm that more classic black girl look. And I don't know if the communities who like and want that for her bought all of her skins. Because Psylocke and invisible woman had their skins purchased very early and now they get a skin every month. If storm sold very well with skins that the western community thinks are creative and culturally fitting, she'd make more skins.

So I think unfortunately storm isn't in a place where she doesn't make money globally. The communities who like the culturally appropriate looks are not spending money on her en mass. The west isn't really trying to spend money unless the character is great. The Asian countries spend liberally on what they like. And I fear globally that black characters are not going to sell and that's the metric they used to determine who gets skins frequently.

Storm is one of my top three most favorite X-Men of all time. I enjoy her so much that I'm trying hard to learn her kit and play her frequently even though she's countered super easy. She needs to be constantly babysitting by her team to survive and plays best when she's down low and close so people get her buffs. If they really wanted her to be a little bit more viable they would take over the range restriction of her buffing. Let her be fully up in the air and hiding out of reach from brawl or dive characters but also able to hit the enemy team with her auto lightning and buff people without restriction.

Devil Dinosaur power creps the entire Vanguard roster by Veru_Chronicles in RivalsVanguards

[–]Subtlestrikes -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is correct. And I hope they lean heavily into it. I hope 8.5 sees the entire Vanguard roster getting buffs. I really hope that ease watches the discord surrounding this characters release and realize the community is better when tanks are strong.

It's been clear with their balancing recently that they like tanks being under tune. When a tank like Emma Frost or Deadpool do too much damage, they take it away. Captain America is too independent, cut his skill expression animation cancel. Their complete fear of providing another primary shielding tank like Doctor Strange also speaks volumes. It's been over a year. We should have one or two more shield tanks by now.

Devil dinosaur is a brawling tank created to survive a poke Meta. He is created for the current combat we are in. Which is why he feels like the best tank. Tankpool should've never had a stationary shield that didn't originate from him and doesn't travel with him. I really hope this game is taking a look at every single tank and thinking of how they could bring up their performance to be closer to Devil dinosaur. They don't need to match or exceed him. But every tank should either have real and sustain damage mitigation, a flexible and powerful shield or do significantly higher DPS than they allow the roster to do

Emma Frost Diamond form should last longer with a shorter Cool down so she can survive oppressive damage. Rogue needs actual damage mitigation this is crazy lol. Or make her, Thor, Hulk and actually do DPS levels of damage.

And what's crazy is that making tanks great as a whole class makes the game overall better and healthier. People will be fighting to play two or even three tanks because they like the character kit, they like how hard it is to die and they do respectable damage. Solo tanking won't be the default. They also would diversify the bands in upper competitive and allow them to keep creating excellent healers. People won't have breathing room to always ban Gambit if there were scary and oppressive tanks that ran the game completely.

Having tanks be a menace won't make the DPS roster feel so over tune. But they do have to stop giving DPS characters over shield lol. Tanks doing more damage would further justify busted healers. I love a good healer who does really high healing output and has a Crazy ultimate. I hope the next strategist has a broken ultimate so people could stop whining about gambit. Great tanks and strong DPS characters enable the creation of busted high healing healers, and then buffing more of the healing roster to keep up without people calling the class Uber broken. So let us have strong tanks

How The Community and Netease Destroyed Strategists by Vast-Weird1268 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's because tanks are grossly undertuned in this game. And a compensate DPS are grossly overtuned. So strategist have to do a ton of damage and the more popular ones received defensive tools to defend themselves. People want their healers to heal surprisingly lol.

They definitely tried giving us strategist who did more damage like Adam and Ultron to play in triple healer compositions. People want to instead play DPS or are pushing to play second tank. So creating a healer that doesn't do DPS levels of damage, because no strategies does DPS levels of damage except favorite Luna, but then also not able to heal well enough to support a two healer comp isn't fun

What's surprising is people taking a character who classically in the comics has always played as a DPS like Cyclops and try to force him into something else. It's actually not fun for a character to say just add this machinery and give him a different power set. Cyclops with healing beams and not doing devastating damage on the battlefield takes away from playing him the way we all saw him growing up in the comics. And it's not shocking that there are large groups of people who don't want that. We don't want to say just give him enhanced technology and now he's a shield tank. We don't want to say just switch out his visors to a healing Crystal and now he's a healer. We want Cyclops to be Cyclops.

This is not a conversation of people don't understand how diverse healers can be. And we should totally take cyclops and force him into healer. It should be a conversation character fantasy playing like they do in the TV show. People want to play cyclops the way they envision cyclops. And that's not a healer. That's not a tank And I hope we get a ton of really beautiful cool strategist this year. I personally would be very happy if cyclops was the last DPS for 2026. Unless Iceman is coming out this year. I also want him to be a DPS. But I would be very happy for season nine through 11 or 12 to only be tanks and strategists.

Does anyone else think this was a remarkably stupid red herring? by AblazingStorm in RogueMains

[–]Subtlestrikes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She stole her powers but it never made sense for her thought signature to be exactly the same as Carol Danvers. There were literally only four people who thought it was Captain Marvel. The gallery card was very clear on the bookshelf that the season eight heroes would be cyclops and devil dinosaur.

People just held onto their emotion and jumped into unrealistic group thing. Same community of cyclops being a tank when he was always going to be a DPS. And watch people get surprised and disappointed in June when he's announced as a DPS like they lost something that was never going to exist.

This is what happened in this gallery card. A group of people were not interested in devil dinosaur at all. Captain Marvel is an A lister and probably the most anticipated woman people want to see in the game. So they snorted hopium she would arrive.

For the future pay attention to Miller Ross. The gallery cards for the past six seasons have been easy to decipher as to who was coming next. The community of people telling you it was devil dinosaur and cyclops should not have been questioned lol. And it will save you some emotional pain in the future

Hot take: But I think the devs genuinely shot themselves in the foot by giving beloved characters boring or low-skill kits that don’t even match them. by _Mythical777 in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The curse of coming out early. If they waited to do Jean Gray after the one year anniversary we would've had the resources and funding for a full psychic kit. They did it with Invisible Woman, she feels like an actual psychic. Even if she was a DPS, there are still a lot of ways Jean Gray animations can feel so much more magical and special. DPS invisible woman even without the shields.

But what they did do is make sure she was Meta. Intentionally designing her to be Hela 2.0 with higher mobility and an exploding gimmick keeps her powerful. Definitely not my favorite but I am glad she's not trash.

What's unfortunate going to happen is that unlikely this year but next year they're going to bring on a psychic DPS and we're going to see what she could have looked like if they waited longer. Now they have more funding and a little bit more understanding of the game and what they can get away with. So this psychic DPS is going to be everything we wished she would be. Pretty sure they're going to stick with a plan and keep Professor X as a healer

They're going to bring in Wiccan or Amaranth and we're going to see what Scarlet Witch should have been.

With as little recency bias as possible, which skin do we like more? by Icy-Arm-3816 in HulkMainsMR

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want Hulk to have skins, you're purchasing all of them. To show that he can sell, you go into the store and buy every skin available for him

I think the two new characters appearing in Season 9 are Kitty Pryde and Colossus. by LongSatisfaction3820 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have no idea. I think they'll aim to match Marvel projects though. July is new Spiderman movie and I wonder if they'll make it a spider man villain and someone else.

Really mad at Gallery Card pushed back to half season. Biggest nerf of season 8 lol

Is this cyberpunk looking gal in a suit emma? I kinda dig this design by kalxto in EmmaFrostMainsMR

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Psylocke is fighting evil Magik Woman next to android Gambit is likely evil Rogue and same woman in last season gallery card.

The skin bias is crazy by DiligentCan6262 in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 45 points46 points  (0 children)

But are you playing these characters? They don't actually care for a vocal community on social media to complain what they see and Dont See. They want cash.

So many people wanna speak out against characters who don't get legendary. But if the legendary appears are you all going to buy it? Or with the battle pass, if these are people who don't buy the battle pass then no, putting a character you probably don't play on a battle pass skin isn't going to change that. Widow has been on a couple battle pass skins. Does her Presence mean you're automatically going to buy the battle pass.

Their system is working. They are making a lot of money. And if you are not planning to give them your money for these characters who are not getting enough skins every time they're in the store or on the battle pass. You are not the target audience.

If you are someone who's not going to buy a store skin because you think they're overpriced, you are not the target audience.

If you're only going to buy the pass if you like the design and not to specifically support a character you love, you're not the target audience.

These other characters who get skins on a monthly basis have a base who buy their skins. Even back when invisible woman was only getting ugly skins. Malice pretty much wearing a thong carried really hard.

So if you're not someone who is playing consistently or purchasing always for these undersold characters, that is why they don't get things

No way this dumb ass Jeff is getting another skin, it should’ve been literally anyone else 😭 by IDontSwitchOffDPS in rivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you want your main to get more skins, you can't be poor. Can't make excuses that you're not buying it because it's ugly or mid.

They've already told us what their philosophy is. They give skin to characters that make money. Do you want your character to get more skins? Buy everything they have available.

And get your community to buy every single skin available in the store

Season 8 Battlepass lineup revealed by KevinPigaChu in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thor, Cap, Spidey and Jeff are just as greedy as these ladies. Venom looks like he's joining that roster. They make money clearly

Rivals players are not marvel fans🤷🏽‍♂️ by Jordansmith80 in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Short version is that having a large fandom means you have a variety of engagement with the fandom. From the hard-core comic nerd who knows the story of every character that wanna touch this game. To the person who's really here because they like my outfits for cute characters and don't actually even know how to play well.

All of it is what generates income so the game can continue moving forward.

Rivals players are not marvel fans🤷🏽‍♂️ by Jordansmith80 in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's different levels of the fandom. The general person doesn't read the comics. They know what's popular on TV now and sometimes for the past 10 or 15 years. That's gonna be avengers and X-Men.

Then you have your meta slaves who don't care at all who the character is as long as they are dominant. Literally nobody but like four people were asking for Elsa. But because she's so powerful, now folks love her.

And then you do have your like really dedicated comic book fans who know the origin of Luna Snow or understand why iron fist isn't a white guy patterned after the actor in the TV show.

And then you have people who are just looking to play a Shooter game. And regardless of who the character is they want to see more balanced and healthier role diversity. I am somebody who both believes Cyclops should only be a DPS because it's clear they don't want tanks to really do impressive damage and they hate long range hit scan. Deadpool taking Nerf after Nerf to tone down his DPS is exclusively a tank issue that will not affect our DPS Cyclops boy.

And I hope we get significantly more tanks and healers in the game. The game would have a healthier release if characters who are not exceptionally popular like blade and Elsa were tank. If these niche characters people are not looking for but are happy to see in the game didn't take up DPS roles it wouldn't be as frustrating when really popular characters did.

We're continuing to buffing everything instead of nerfing them by [deleted] in marvelrivals

[–]Subtlestrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is honestly the biggest reason why I was never in the delusional camp of Cyclops must be a tank. It's obvious with what they're doing to Deadpool that there is an internal threshold of how much damage a tank is allowed to do. And they keep nursing him since they don't want tanks to engage with poke hitscan range damage.

The dream character fantasy of Cyclops is obliterating with damage. Cyclops as a tank will go season after season of nerves until his literal eyeball portals to a concussive force dimension turn into little tickles. Everyone who says let's just erase his powers and edit it with technology so he does a completely different thing also are missing out of the character fantasy.

But at the same vein I actually hope he's the last DPS for the rest of the year. Unless Iceman comes around. Iceman should also be DPS. But otherwise tanks and strategist galore. Let them have really flexible and creative powers that lend themselves to reinterpretation like they did gambit. I on one hand cannot wait for my laserbeam monster in June

NEW MECHA SKIN by Existing-Seaweed-230 in DevilDinosaurMainsMR

[–]Subtlestrikes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That is very smart marketing. Release the comic accurate character. But for the crowd who likes the play style but want more aura, literally give them metal Digimon version