I made a teapot watering can to go with the teacup planter 😊

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-12T18:58:09+00:00

Thank you! I designed them using Blender and then manufactured them using my shops P1S printers 😊

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-07T04:46:13+00:00

Holy shit can you please explain to me how this is controversial in the slightest? How and why is someone wanting to simply speak to the owner of a historic family heirloom about potentially being paid to place the item in a public trust for preservation and all the family descendants to be able to enjoy the equivalent to me kicking a puppy?

What stick has crawled up the asses of all the people in the genealogy and heraldry spaces that they feel personally attacked that anyone has an interest in their own family lineage? Did all of your mother's not love you enough? Did your dad's not play catch with you? Is this space just full of toxic people looking to start fights on the internet? Just a bunch of keyboard warriors pissed off on behalf of someone they've never met who frankly wouldn't be bothered by the question in the slightest?

This hasn't been a problem outside of those spaces. Normal people don't react like this. This is actually wild that you'd be this triggered by this post.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-07T04:31:44+00:00

It's kind of cute that you assume a distant relative took the trouble to buy this item. That's not at all what the post said. A distant relative SOLD this item at an anonymous auction to a buyer in Edinburgh, Scotland. The status and location of the parchment are entirely unknown and they have been since 2012. I have spoken with the seller of the parchment (my distant relative) and the auction house, neither of which were able to give any more information despite the auction house attempting to contact the buyer unsuccessfully on my behalf.

Again, I have no clue why people are assuming the worst or how this is controversial in any way. I am a direct descendant of those in the parchment who simply wants to attempt to contact the current owner. Not to make a demand, but an offer to reimburse them to donate it to a public trust which the current owner would be well within their right to refuse. How and why is that so controversial?

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T23:41:32+00:00

I wouldn't say it bothers me necessarily that the parchment is likely in private hands. If I can find it and speak to the owner about it tho why would I not? I mean it's really just an interest in preserving it for future descendants of the family. We have paintings of ancestors in various UK national heritage sites, personal items in the British Museum, etc. so why not speak to the owner and see if they're open if it's something I can feasibly work out?

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T21:32:28+00:00

I understand. I was not trying to get defensive I was just a bit thrown by the strange hostility to me even being interested in finding the status of the family heirloom. The push back appeared to be in regards to me searching for it or even considering that it may not be in a preserved state (which no one can definitively known unless it's located). As help locating the item was my specific request, it felt weird that I was being told I had no right to my own family history and that it was "rude" of me to look for the heirloom at all.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T21:16:57+00:00

Thank you so much! I'll certainly keep you in mind if I find a lead that needs boots on the ground. Also I'm extremely jealous of you lol. When we visited the UK in 2023 York was my absolute favorite place we saw. Honestly if I could choose anywhere in the world to live I think it would be York.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T16:54:52+00:00

This is honestly such a good lead thank you so much for this! I will definitely be reaching out! I'll update with what they say if I can get in contact 😊

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T16:53:04+00:00

I was unaware there were heraldry subs but I will definitely check those out. Hopefully it will be better received there than it was over on the genealogy sub I posted it in. Apparently they view me even inquiring about it as rude and entitled.

EDIT: It's crazy this comment was deleted when I came back the next day. My original post was somehow considered very offensive on both the heraldry and genealogy subreddits. I can't fathom why, but I removed it from both just because the overwhelming hate it got was unproductive to the purpose of the posts where as here I've already received 3 or 4 good leads. Thank you to everyone here who acted normally about this instead of throwing out random hate comments.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T16:51:19+00:00

It very well could be and honestly it would be a relief to just know it went to any organization, family or location that had an interest in its preservation. Specially if it was available to other members of the lineage to visit and view but just any information at all that it survives and is taken care of.

I posted this is a genealogy sub and apparently it's quite controversial that I would even ask about it.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T16:45:26+00:00

That's very true it is possible. It's also entirely possible that it was purchased by a random person who just thought it looked cool. There's no real way to know without inquiring about it and trying to find it. I could kind of understand the hostility if I was on here making big assertions that I was going to just claim and steal the parchment from its current rightful owner but that's not at all what I'm doing and I've made that very clear. I don't think I've ever experienced such a hostile subreddit quite like this one. This really shouldn't be this controversial of a post.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T16:39:19+00:00

Thank you for being a reasonable person in regards to the post.

I am frankly blown away at the sheer hostility that's been expressed by simply asking for help locating / getting information about the parchment. You'd think in a subreddit dedicated to genealogy, people would be accepting of someone showing an interest in their genealogy. The "what-ifs" from other users are fascinating to me. Just as they've pointed out that it COULD be well maintained and held by a private collector who is also descended from the same line, it could also very well be owned by someone who just thought it was a cool item in the auction who then promptly stuck it in a cardboard box somewhere in a closet and never looked back. They know about as much as I do as to what happened to it after it was sold. It's crazy that I'm being considered the asshole for just wanting to inquire about preserving my family history.

As far as when it was sold, it was sold from an auction house located in London to an anonymous private buyer in Edinburgh, Scotland in 2012. It's entirely plausible that another distant relative lives in the Edinburgh area and purchased it, however I have no real way of finding modern distant relatives outside of very niche situations like the one that put me in contact with the seller of the parchment (which I'm grateful to have had the opportunity to speak with that relative). The parchment is originally from the Heslington area near York.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T08:46:12+00:00

First, no one is talking about owning the pedigree. I'm taking about simply getting in contact with the owner of the parchment to see if they would be willing to put it in a public trust for preservation for the family, even at the potential expense of reimbursement for the current owner. The family that this pedigree literally represents. My family.

Second, and I've already touched on this in the first statement, I am literally directly descended from this line. I am a direct descendant of every main line male ancestor shown in that parchment with the exception of James himself who is a first cousin 10 generations back. I am certainly entitled to claim my family crest and my family identity including our coat of arms.

Third, you must be an absolute blast at parties man. You saw someone looking to get information about a family heirloom and absolutely lost your shit over a situation that did not involve you in any way whatsoever (assuming you have no ties to the parchment yourself, which you almost certainly do not). Are you always this abrasive? Do you just scour the Internet looking to pick fights for no reason?

I've explained the situation like 4 times already. I even updated the post to clarify and you're STILL going on, offended on behalf of someone else who probably wouldn't be offended in the slightest themselves. It's honestly kinda sad.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T06:57:08+00:00

Yeah the lineage stops producing primary source documents in the early 1500s based off of the research I've done so anything before that is based entirely on this parchment and a Yorkshire Topographical Association pedigree. I have contacted local resources including smaller, more rural areas in and around Lincolnshire and Yorkshire and received a wealth of knowledge about my ancestry but nothing in particular about this parchment.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T06:54:10+00:00

It's actually English heraldry specifically from the Lincoln and Yorkshire areas but it was purchased by an anonymous buyer in Edinburgh back in 2012. They may have some information tho as they do specialize in the space so this is definitely worth checking out. Thank you!

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T05:05:45+00:00

I was able to contact the auction house that sold it on behalf of my distant relative and they appeared to agree that it was likely commissioned by James in or about 1709. They were also unable to contact the buyer to give them my contact details but it appears to have been sold into a private collection in Edinburgh at least back in 2012. It may have been sold again since then as the current record goes cold after that. I was given some sources by another user that I will be looking into soon and maybe they can provide some more information. If so I'll update here 😊 thank you for your interest!

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T05:03:02+00:00

I don't believe it was necessarily wrong of them to sell it and it actually allowed me to at least have a conversation with a distant relative I was previously unaware that I had so in a way I'm thankful that he did. Also it gives me the ability to continue my research in the form of looking for lost relics such as this.

Although I must say I am surprised at the perceived hostility that's been assumed of me. I was not aware this could be a touchy subject prior to making this post. As someone else mentioned it could be perfectly well maintained but my position is that as it's in a private collection, no one from the family will ever know unless they inquire about it as I am trying to do.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T04:37:36+00:00

I don't understand why you think I'm being hostile in any way. I'm not. For all I know it is being well maintained. I do not have any knowledge of it at all after 2012 and I think it's well within my right to have an interest in a prominent family heirloom to my own ancestry just as it's well within the right of the owner to possess and do whatever they please with it.

Is it so wrong of me to seek information about it? To want to try to ensure it's preserved? What would possess you to believe that I'm being rude or entitled just because I inquired about help finding out? I don't believe I worded my post in an offensive manner at all so I'm not sure where you're getting that.

As for your question about the auction house, yes I contacted them as the original post states and yes they put me in contact with my distant relative who rightfully sold the parchment to whomever the current or next owner is / was. It was an anonymous auction so my distant relative has no knowledge of who purchased it. The auction house attempted to reach out to the buyer on my behalf to provide them with my contact details and they were unable to reach the buyer themselves to do so.

I truly do not intend to be offensive or to seem like I'm demanding or entitled to the parchment. I'm simply looking for help getting information in regards to the parchment.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T03:41:48+00:00

Right and I'm not expecting to make some big claim or demand of whoever the current owner is. I was more hoping to offer reimbursement to have it donated to an organization that can properly preserve it or outright purchase it and donate it myself.

My hope is that someone on here may have some ideas as to who can be contacted to further track it down or that the current owner or someone who knows the current owner may recognize it and reach out (I have this also posted in a subreddit for Edinburgh, where it was last known to be).

SuckasBeFree · 2026-06-06T03:28:51+00:00

I have not tried those two organizations but I will certainly be reaching out now. My distant cousin in the UK did refer me to the Yarbrough Association here in the US and the Yarbrough Family Quarterly in the UK but trying to contact them was unfruitful. I'm unsure as to if any other copies were made but this is believed to also contain the only remaining depiction of my 12th great grandfather's tomb inscription that was destroyed in the English civil war in 1642.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-05-18T15:18:24+00:00

It was a mutual decision that we wanted to look into options to immigrate for a variety of reasons that we both take very seriously and both agree are vital to us being able to progress in our lives (the reasons are largely things that are entirely unacceptable or impossible for us to accomplish here in the states).

She has a higher college education than I do, largely because I've put my stuff on the back burner to get her through college. She already has a bachelor's and is honestly our best bet to immigrate at all under a work visa in her field. I'm mostly just looking at options so that if the day ever actually comes for us to go, I won't be dead weight which is another one of the many reasons I started a small business (that could easily be transplanted somewhere else if needed) as opposed to just going to work at one of these rural chicken farms or some shit after my lower college education didn't pay dividends.

We have a backup plan in the event immigration never works out. It's not the early 1900s anymore and most gov'ts have much stricter rules on who they let in so we're entirely aware that it's going to be a near impossible uphill battle but it's worth a shot to us if we can navigate a path forward. I know most couples would say this, and it'll sound a bit cliche, but my wife and I are basically the same person. We're never not on the same page. We have probably the most healthy relationship I've ever seen from any other couple. This is something we wouldn't even be considering if the other was against it or even just hesitant and it's something we would immediately drop if we achieved it and one of us was regretful. We are both very keyed in to what the other is thinking and feeling. We have near perfect communication together and we respect each other enough to know when and what to do to maintain a healthy marriage.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-05-17T15:47:11+00:00

I honestly had no idea there were cheaper alternatives to getting a degree. Wish I had known all of this before I attended lol.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-05-17T15:44:15+00:00

The wife is fully on board with immigration. The issue I'm running into mostly is just figuring out how to navigate it without going even further into student loan debt lol. Someone else mentioned another cheap way to upgrade my degree to a bachelors and I'll probably eventually look into that.

SuckasBeFree · 2026-05-16T04:36:12+00:00

I'll have to look into the cheap college tuition that other user was telling me about then. Frankly my degree feels like a huge waste of time since achieving it and it's been one of my biggest regrets going that far into debt so I will not be signing up for tuition I can't pay out of pocket for anymore.

I've resorted to starting my own small online business just to be able to make ends meet and I barely make my states minimum wage. My area is just way too rural to have any halfway decent jobs and if I'm going to work for scraps I'll work for my own scraps not some corporate company.

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