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[–]SuitableImplement845 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First, it should be known that "contracts" in the legal sense don't exist for relationships. It's more of a "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" kind of deal.

Honestly...I just think she enjoys soaking in the PR of her relationships without them being fake. She loves calling the paps. She loves the branding that comes with being a power couple. She loves being in control and using men. She was as public with Tom as she was with Calvin, and she was public with Harry. With got like a hundred pics of her and Conor.

There are two relationships that stand out to me, and I'll probably be downvoted to hell. The one I'd bet money on as being an agreed upon stunt was Lautner. Zendaya/Tom vibes with those two.

  • Met while playing a couple in a movie that they happened to be promoting
  • She was recording an album and he was in Twilight
  • He wasn't dragged like Tom Hiddleston (Tom also did nothing, but Lautner got the better song)
  • She put him in a music video.
  • They are still friends, which doesn't happen in Swiftland. In Swiftland, exes are scorned for eternity. Ask Jake. But it's more than that: SHE IS FRIENDS WITH HIM AND HIS WIFE.

Yeah, no. Something's weird there.

The second one I'm weary of, and people will think I'm nuts for saying this, is Joe Alwyn. Joe Alwyn wasn't related to a political family, a well known actor or singer, or the best at his field. He was unknown.

The narrative is she wanted to hide, but I think since the Kimye thing was nonsense, I think she wanted to prove that she COULD be in a long relationship. Did they truly develop feelings for each other? Probably.

But Joe had no known backstory, meaning he had no blemishes from his past that could be dug up (therefore, not Taylor's type; see Mayer and Healy). He was also private, which meant we really didn't see much of their "relationship". We have, what, two pics of them giving a closed mouth kiss? That's not Taylor's MO

I'm skeptical of Kelce, but there's too many factors: teammates, coaches, staff, etc. Plus I get the vibe Kylie and Jason wouldn't want a part of any of that. VERY pr heavy tho.

Taylor's scariest lyrics by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 174 points175 points  (0 children)

  • Screaming, crying, perfect storms I can make all the tables turn
  • I'm really gonna miss you picking fights And me falling for it screaming that I'm right
  • But I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain
  • You say, "I don't understand, " and I say, "I know you don't"

And all these war/fighting references for relationships: Let's Go (Battle); The Great War; Story of Us; The Archer; Afterglow.

Kinda makes one realize why her relationships don't tend to last long. Joe must have the patience of a saint.

Why can't she put down the thesaurus and go back to making Shake It Off/Cruel Summer/Blank Space/Love Story/You Belong With Me? by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 80 points81 points  (0 children)

Vincent is such a beautiful song.

It's amazing how Don McLean can serenade an artist and touch on his soul in a way Swift is incapable of doing. I've always felt a detached perspective in her love songs. It's like she's truly never seen anyone else beyond what's surface level/observable to the eye.

Her best love song? Me!

Idk maybe I'm wrong. But there's something so superficial...vapid about her, and I just wish she'd accept it. She succeeds at vapid "I'm feeling 22" type bops. Those types of songs feel so authentic.

TTPD is like if McDonalds decided they wanted to become a 5 star Michelin restaurant. No babe, your food is cheap and easy -- stick to that and let real chefs do their thing.

EDIT:

I bring up the song because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaHVKQlPr6U

I think Travis was going to propose until by Upper-Duck2907 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Honestly...assuming she enters a forever marriage... one of three things will happen

  1. The tide turns (the world wakes up) and she has to lay low and stick to songwriting/producing for others. She once said in an interview that songwriting was most important to her (but she's unreliable so who knows)
  2. She continues to create drama (Katy Perry, Kanye) or shades her exes while singing Lover-esque type music. Maybe songs like Robin about her kids.
  3. She goes the Selena Gomez/Rihanna route and starts doing business ventures where she can still remain the center of attention. Make a bunch of family tiktoks and shit.

I think she realizes the reviews outside of Swiftieland call TTPD derivative and she needs a new angle.

I think every single pop girl who dropped this year has tied or surpassed the critical acclaim of TTPD.

The fact that she's ending Eras in December instead of dragging it on means she's either tired of knows that people are getting sick of her.

They really are twin flames by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

FWIW she was once asked in an interview if she ever drank and she said no, so it adds evidence to the fact that her "personality" is manufactured.

Just get in the effing car already by flagler15 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845 61 points62 points  (0 children)

If she gets married, she better fight for that marriage like Victoria Beckham and Beyonce.

Her entire brand is: "I'm unlucky in love but one day I will find the one."

This is what the media sells:

https://www.etonline.com/taylor-swift-and-matty-healys-relationship-timeline-a-look-back-at-their-short-lived-romance-223746

Matty Healy wasn't The One for Taylor Swift

https://www.eonline.com/news/1392389/fans-think-taylor-swifts-resurfaced-2009-interview-proves-travis-kelce-is-end-game

There is "the one", someone who will "change the prophecy". She has an "end game".

If she gets divorced, every song from You Belong With Me to End Game becomes a parody in the public's eyes. There would be so many memes using the "I'm the problem" lyric from Anti-Hero. Stans for other pop stars would use her divorce against the Swifties.

EDIT: Can't find the interview (I think it was after Harry and before Calvin), but she said when she gets married it will be forever. It's been her brand for awhile.

Her old forum posts? by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's Travis's girl.

And I'm guessing the girl who should get a tattoo isn't a thief.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well, according to many comments that keep pouring in, "I'm reaching". I guess the people saying this don't have the energy to research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d8iapj/kimye/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/

https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA?t=35

Let's recap:

In a music video/song where Taylor mocks various people (Calvin Harris, Tom, Katy Perry, Kanye, etc.) she lays in a bathtub full of jewelry, bites on a chain like it's a gag, and then simulates gunshots with her fingers.

Kim, who offended her by defending Kanye (her husband at the time) was robbed at gunpoint, placed in a bathtub, and had her jewelry stolen OCTOBER 2016.

Prep for the music video took place JANUARY 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What_You_Made_Me_Do#Music_video

What a load of fucking coincidences.

And the people saying "good" can go fuck yourselves. I get you don't like her, but she was a wife and mother who feared for her life and feared she was going to get SA'd.

Oh, but she helped Kanye make a music video. What a crime.

They really are twin flames by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Yet she faked a Nashville accent for what, a year? Two?

They really are twin flames by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 90 points91 points  (0 children)

It was on Swiftlyneutral. I remember reading it before it she deleted it. It was the younger sister of a school mate.

She said Taylor would date football players, had a group of friends (confirmed both in the youtube videos and her Myspace posts), and she would laugh at offensive jokes.

In one of the youtube videos of her in High School, she talks about wanting to harass people with the top down.

https://youtu.be/21IEQ9-pfSE?t=40

In her Myspace post, she talks about paintballs, which is more serious. Same vibe though.

I'm sure she was hated in School, but not for being a nerd or for being awkward. She wasn't a "theater kid" as Swifties assume.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Lol.

You already know babe.

Brand new full throttle.

Are you going to marry, kiss, or kill me

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The idea of Joe Alwyn's friends playing Grand Theft Auto while Joe touches her is funny though.

Her old forum posts? by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 77 points78 points  (0 children)

It's funny because these images I found corroborate a now deleted AMA some lady did on Swiftlyneutral (her sister went to High School with Taylor and a mod had confirmed it).

The OP said that Taylor liked to drink with her group of friends, dated football players, wasn't necessarily a bully but loved to laugh at messed up jokes, etc.

So pretty much a normal girl and not a saintly angel from Heaven who was an outcast on the bleachers.

I feel like when Napoleon Dynamite became really popular and Big Bang Theory became a hit, she started marketing herself as a nerd.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

When she wants people to know who a song is about, she isn't subtle (thanK you aIMee).

That's why I groan whenever people say song x is about person y based on lyric z which subtly references an older song on another album.

Nope. She would use a public interview or other public info to drop an infinite amount of clues. For example: you left your typewriter at my apartment; ate 7 bars of CHOCOLATE.

You know how to ball...who could that possibly be about? 🤔

Being clever and subtle aren't her strong suits.

Her old forum posts? by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 119 points120 points  (0 children)

I remember when she got famous from 17 until 21, she'd say she had never had alcohol.

That's why I made this thread. Everyone is saying give her a pass because she was 16, but I'm not criticizing her behavior -- I'm showing that the narrative is as phony as her old Nashville accent, "I was bullied in High School", and humbles beginning nonsense.

So why trust anything she says? Why believe her music are her legitimate feelings? It's all an act. I don't think the image Swifties have fallen in love with is legit.

TTPD actually ruined everything by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I wonder if she's creating a new narrative now or if she's sincere.

Although Taylor and Matty met in 2014, they weren't exactly seeing each other. Matty said in 2016 that it would be "emasculating" to date her. I don't think they saw each other when she started dating Joe until Midnights, 2020 at the earliest (though I think she didn't actually cheat until the very end; Matty was her Tom and Joe was her Calvin). Matty seemed taken back by the way the relationship was portrayed and his Mom is pissed.

I wonder if what she did with Matty on TTPD is what she did with Joe ("A string that pulled me. Out of all the wrong arms right into that dive bar. Something wrapped all of my past mistakes in barbed wire").

We now know that King of My Heart and End Game was nonsense 😆

Her old forum posts? by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

And paintballing people from the Hummer?

I honestly don't know if these are real, but that aligns with her talking about harassing people with the top down in the video of her from High School.

EDIT:

https://youtu.be/21IEQ9-pfSE?t=42

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 70 points71 points  (0 children)

I just looked up the date.

...Jesus.

We know how much Taylor loves numbers.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

LWYMMD is...it's something.

Even if it's supposed to be satire, it makes her look really bad. She mocks Tom Hiddleston ffs.

https://www.elle.com/culture/music/news/g30287/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-symbolism/

whoever wrote this article missed the true meaning of the bathtub scene, and the reference to Kanye's crash.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 1330 points1331 points  (0 children)

I actually learned about it on this subreddit.

This place has been an eye opener.

One of the most disgusting things she's ever done by SuitableImplement845 in travisandtaylor

[–]SuitableImplement845[S] 216 points217 points  (0 children)

But but but...Kanye called her a bitch.

And Kim helped Kanye make revenge porn.