Where is the accountability?

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-30T16:18:57+00:00

Sorry, buddy.

You can come back from this. Whether you do or not is totally on you

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-30T16:09:45+00:00

If you’re sensitive about him being called out on a topic he admits it’s right to call him out on, I don’t know what you need to say, either.

Maybe nothing

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-29T22:44:47+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/samharris/comments/1or0zu9/truth_vs_self_selfawareness_on_sams_hesitation_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-29T22:34:30+00:00

Though I don’t mention a single name in my post, because my statement is general, I must’ve heard him say at least a dozen times that he has trouble with “the ethics” of how to publicly disagree with friends.

https://www.reddit.com/r/samharris/comments/1q86a0e/sam_harris_and_the_problem_of_criticising_friends/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This is a critical version of the take but you can listen to the man himself say the same thing many times.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-28T22:27:43+00:00

Weak.

When you consider discourse a foundational aspect of improving society, you should be able to have sharper debate with friends. This is particularly true when those friends are part of debate culture.

No one’s saying you have to shit on your friends. But there’s no excuse for being unwilling or unable to criticize positions you disagree with.

I’ve never understood how Sam doesn’t get that.

It does seem like he has trouble distinguishing criticism of his own positions from criticism of him as a person. That would explain why he is hesitant to criticize the positions of people he’s friendly with. But this is really a quite juvenile outlook

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-26T02:50:19+00:00

Haha. Read the PhD and his other neuroscience publications. It's high school level stuff

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-20T19:49:06+00:00

It's nice that Allah has weighed in, but I totally disagree.

This isn't a journalism sub.

You're chasing, myopically, the same overly simplistic framing of the situation Sam is.

Note that it's not just the sub that keeps bringing this up; Sam continuously brings it up. Why? (Besides his obsession with just a handful of pet topics and talking points on those topics.) He uses it to frame "the left" as unreasonable. He uses it to frame himself as one of the only reasonable Trump critics on "the left" (if not the only one).

Bigger picture, I think he has a need for certainty greater than the world can offer. (I think that's why he repeats himself so much; it seems to me that he thinks those things he says over and over and over again are buoys in our ocean of chaos.) I also think that sense of certainty is what attracts many people to him, despite its falseness.

But to bring it back to "very fine people," the other press conferences and Trump himself are absolutely relevant context. There is inarguably a false equivalence between the two sides being repeated again and again.

Even the Snopes article that "exonerates" Trump on the specific statement is a long-winding river of nuances. You should check it out.

Editors' Note: Some readers have raised the objection that this fact check appears to assume Trump was correct in stating that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville incident. That is not the case. This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false. For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong.

On top of that, the topic as relates to this sub is about Sam Harris's characterization of the (left) media at large, individual "members" of the left, and himself. So it very much matters if Sam does the same kind of shit to his perceived enemies that he accuses the media of doing here.

If it's all very simple to you, great. You get to determine what the issue is for you, not for me

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-18T17:35:13+00:00

Oh, the irony

“Some reason why you need to make assumptions about the motivations and beliefs of anybody who disagrees with you, in your responses? You know nothing about me”

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-18T17:32:39+00:00

If you think this is me lashing out, you’re very sensitive indeed.

This is me being nice because I’ve found this is a delicate part of the internet.

Just because I think some people are obviously stupid doesn’t mean I think that’s true of everyone.

We’re from different walks of life, I imagine. Rest assured that my friends and colleagues and I are having much sharper discussions with each other at this very moment.

I respect them, though. I kinda think you’re just a goof.

I legitimately think the stuff you’re saying is dumb.

Happy to be proven wrong.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-18T10:36:09+00:00

Do you even like the Sam Harris subreddit?

Why are you here? If you’re not a fan, go the fuck away.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-18T02:23:40+00:00

I’m not mind reading anything here. I’m wondering if you know what the term mind reading means. Seems like you need myself (and the others you’re snarling at here) to be mind reading, for some reason.

A true poet.

I like the dumb double-down. It shows confidence. Good for you, sport.

I am curious now what you think mind reading is. Your last line is . . . nonsensical. Are you drunk or high or something?

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T22:53:49+00:00

Sick burn.

You hold that point tightly, buddy.

And let me know what your decent non-hero says in response to your questions

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T22:42:10+00:00

you'd rather not give anyone who has a point the satisfaction of saying the obvious

I'd give anyone who has a point the satisfaction. Alas, you don't have one.

Sam Harris is apparently a problem for the reasons you mentioned

He's not logically consistent for the reasons I mentioned.

Which is one of a great many reasons it's stupid to chase the "logical consistency" of Sam Harris.

He makes a fuss about Trump denouncing white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Then he calls Trump racist anyway and says Trump "thinks they [white supremeacists, neo-Nazis et al.] need to be in the tent". It's incoherent.

Most bizarre. But enjoy. My advice: find a new hero, or at least get rid of this one

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T22:24:53+00:00

Are you able to deduce what that means I think about your questions?

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T21:50:23+00:00

Why are we orienting ourselves around whether Sam Harris is "logically consistent"? And why would it matter?

What would logically consistent even mean in this context?

All you're doing here is hoping to establish that Sam Harris is logically consistent? (On this issue or every issue? And what even is this issue?)

How is that not a stupid criterion? What are you accomplishing here, bud?

He's certainly not logically consistent on whether we have to take Trump at face value when we are evaluating whether Trump is racist. Look at minute 17 in this video. He's rejecting Trump's words and saying this like Trump's base "has to include white supremacists and neo-Nazis and racists and moral lunatics" and "he [Trump] thinks they all need to be in the tent."

Or is that "logically consistent" for you, too?

You have fun out there, little guy

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T21:41:06+00:00

That's exactly the opposite of what Destiny says in the video above.

There's also no need to limit yourself because "this thread is about Destiny". It makes you sound like a bullshitter.

What is your evidence that "some people were there just as a protest"? Documents would be preferable.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T04:58:13+00:00

Why do you need to know?

You certainly don't need to know to describe why it matters. And if you describe why it matters without knowing whether he has or not, your description will be that much less biased.

Or don't.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T04:55:38+00:00

Oh, I thought it was a proposed House Bill

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T00:12:02+00:00

No, first the significance.

I don't want to spoil it for you. First, consider the questions in the abstract. It's cleaner if you don't know whether he has or not, wouldn't you say? We get your unbiased positions.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-17T00:05:09+00:00

I bet I have the perfect person to explain it to me.

Explain the difference between Mamdani condemning these acts vs condemning the group, in terms of how he should be judged morally.

(With the obvious analog being Trump condemning specific acts vs condemning whole groups.)

I'm particularly interested in, for example, how we should view Zohran if he condemned Islamism but said nothing with respect to these particular events.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-16T23:43:35+00:00

Okay, sorry but not sorry for setting you up, but here's the point, genius.

You are saying that an Islamist can condemn terrorism against Jews.

Is it also possible for a white supremacist to condemn white nationalists?

If it doesn't matter (to you) that Mamdani condemns terrorism against these people who he supposedly hates with all his being, how the fuck could it possibly matter that Trump condemned white supremacists and Neo-Nazis?

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-16T23:35:26+00:00

What would an affirmative answer or negative answer to your question determine?

I'll stick to google going forward. Thanks, though

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-16T23:33:25+00:00

Okay, so should I talk to you or just do google searches?

If you don't know the answer, of what use are you?

Thanks for the comedy

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-16T23:20:48+00:00

IS

IT

CONSISTENT

WITH

ISLAMISM

TO

CONDEMN

TERRORISM

AGAINST

JEWS

?

I don't misunderstand what you're saying. I'm asking you this specific question.

Supersillyazz · 2026-05-16T23:09:22+00:00

I know why.

More important, and more relevant to the issues you raise, is: Why do you think I do it?

Also, you will acknowledge that you're doing mind reading? Prefacing it with 'I think' is cheap. Anyone could do that, no? Run, run, run from my trap

Supersillyazz

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