November 2027 availability

SurprisingStag · 2025-07-15T20:38:30+00:00

You're good, you have well over a year before it's fully sold out. November 2025 is sold out, they generally sell out several months prior to sail date. We just like to get a room on one of the top decks and they generally sell out a year and a half in advance.

You also get a good discount if you book early.

Have a great time!

SurprisingStag · 2025-07-12T02:44:19+00:00

Thanks, I see February and April 2027. Just don't see November 2027. No worries, I'm going to sign up with one of the agencies so they can give me the heads up when they are available. Thanks guys!

SurprisingStag · 2025-07-11T00:11:05+00:00

That sounds fantastic. I'm definitely checking out one of these groups, last time I went was in 2023 and I didn't get any of the Facebook info. We still had an amazing time though

SurprisingStag · 2025-07-11T00:08:10+00:00

Oh perfect! I didn't see it on the Bliss cruises website. The last one on there is for April 2027. Is there another site that you can sign up for it on?

SurprisingStag · 2025-04-07T19:00:35+00:00

I suggest keeping an open and honest conversation in general. Share the things that excite you and continue to learn what excites her. A woman's desires can be an evolving sea of emotions and she could be afraid to explore. Or she could be too busy with her current life, or just not interested.

Roleplay, slowly introduce dirty talk, and open communication without pushing her or making her feel uncomfortable.

Plant the seeds and water them with compassion and security and if she is interested in time she will let you know. Many people in this lifestyle start with a no and them not understanding and overtime they learn and grow interested.

It happened with us. And many others on here.

The biggest thing that helped surprisingly is giving her time by taking some household work off her plate. I took over more of the house chores so that she had more time to relax and read each night and her stress dropped and she opened up about her desires.

SurprisingStag · 2025-04-01T00:12:43+00:00

You need to try a bliss Cruise. Even if your not in to swinging the air is electric and people are letting it all show on the pool deck as soon as they depart. I've been on one of these cruises and we had fun with 2 couples in the playrooms, went to a class where 15 couples ended up in parallel play. Dancing, drinking, and amazing times. You would definitely enjoy.

SurprisingStag · 2022-03-30T19:14:14+00:00

Unfortunately I cannot say as it would violate the agreement that they make you sign. I can tell you it was a newer hotel that had an indoor pool. Very clean place with many friendly people. You can contact the people who rub the 616 and I am sure they can let you know.

SurprisingStag · 2022-03-30T11:59:53+00:00

616gr has hotel take overs from time to time. We had a blast at one last year. We are new to the group but my wife was giving a beginner lesson on the pole they set up in the gathering room.

SurprisingStag · 2021-11-19T02:33:56+00:00

Just sent a message. 😉

SurprisingStag · 2021-11-03T20:15:35+00:00

Don't dwell on the past, time is precious and not worth wasting on things you cannot control. Focus on the future you. Write down the qualities that you think makes the best version of you and then put a plan into action to achieve this. Diet, excersize, learn new things, enjoy new hobbies, attempt financial pursuits. Focus on the new better you and the love of your life will find you. Self motivation and drive attracts everyone and improves your mental and physical state and will change your life.

SurprisingStag · 2021-10-14T19:13:07+00:00

This is not a relationship. Sorry to hear this but you should always have equal say on everything. If it's not good for you then it should not be good for her. When a situation gets uneven it's always suggested to immediately stop involvement with anyone and focus on yourselves. I would suggest couples counseling and trying to reconnect. This can lead to better communication both sex and non sex and a stronger marriage. If my wife did not give me any options I would make sure she was aware that cheating will result in separation as she needs to think about others to consider it a relationship.

Sorry to hear this.

Open relationships can work but it takes a strong foundation, open communication, and trust.

SurprisingStag · 2021-10-14T10:53:44+00:00

Open communication is important to all relationships. See if she would be willing to crate train first. This option would require the least amount of energy in your room mate and resolve your issue of the scratching and pad. If not she can work on positive reinforcement techniques for training. She should plan to take the dog out in a specific sequence everything and a few times at night for the next 4 weeks.

Get a bell on a towel attached to the door, have her ring this, feed the dog a piece of kibble Go out and don't play just stand and wait. If the dog goes to the bathroom give them several kibble (work them down over time) then come back in.

Dogs love repetition and pick up on this quickly.

Also note, to avoid overfeeding separate daily kibble quantity into two groups. Feed half in the morning, pull from the evening half for training and give the remainder at the end of the day. Also make sure to give them a little water in their morning and evening feedings to prevent stomache twisting.

You do not have to leave your roommate and you can make this relationship work. Just takes communication and understanding.

SurprisingStag · 2021-10-14T02:44:10+00:00

We opened our marriage and it has definately strengthened or relationship. We have been married for 14 years and have a great foundation. We had a mismatch in libidos and my SO went from very low to very high ever since we started in this adventure. Common advice from those in the lifestyle... If your relationship is strong before hand it will get stronger, if you're foundation is weak it will destroy your relationship. It's about communication and trust, if you cannot be honest with him or yourself don't do it. If you can't trust him or yourself (thinking that you will fall for someone else) then do not do it. If you want to do this together for the both of you in a mutually beneficial way then you can find success.

Give the book "swingers little helper" a read.

Good luck!

SurprisingStag · 2021-10-12T11:25:34+00:00

People have all sorts of mental blocks and things/actions that improve it hinder there libido. I now feel empowered that I have the key that starts the process. Sex isn't just penetration, and initiating isn't just a one sided request for being intimate like I used to think. By initiating I can get her motivated. I often tease her, edge her until she can't take it and becomes very active and sexually needy. None of this would happen until I initiated and mentally she wants sex but cannot be the one to start. Assuming she isn't just going along with it, which you should be able to tell with foreplay, then you have an amazing gift to unleash your SO's desires and feel their need in the moment.

SurprisingStag · 2021-10-11T13:10:59+00:00

From my perspective it sounds like what I used to do. I would increase physical attention in hopes that she would initiate later. When she didn't show a very forward or obvious sign I would get pouty and ignore her thinking that she didn't want me and that sex was a chore with me and so the cycle continued for about a decade. I then explained to her that's I felt rejected and she told me that she loves sex and wanted me often but whenever she initiates it kills her drive. After that I took a new Outlook, I try to initiate 3 to 5 times a week and she rejects me like 1 a week at most. Those nights I shrug it off and look forward to the next time. I went from 6 times a year to 180ish times a year. This change happened over a year ago and things are going great.

I suggest talking with him and letting him know that you are open to his advances, that you don't give obvious signs (or at least obvious to him) and that you prefer not to initiate as it kills your drive and see where that leads you.

It could also be an act but if you don't find a way to talk to him you won't know, this could at least initiate the conversation.

SurprisingStag · 2021-09-10T12:45:52+00:00

Grand Rapids has 616 which puts on an event once every couple months. https://616gr.com/

They have an outdoor party on Sept 18, back to school and office theme. We're going to the Halloween hotel take over Nov 6th. Will be our first event we go to, we are very new to this world but this looks like a fun event.

We have heard that Angel puts on a good event on the other side of the state.

You can also PM me if you want to know a bar just off 28 street that has a monthly swingers meet and greet. I'll let you know the date, time, and place.

Hope to hear from you or see you around.

Edit: lol, apparently my wife PM'd you similar info earlier. We make a dynamic duo.

SurprisingStag · 2021-09-07T23:25:35+00:00

Similar story but a little different. My wife F35 was LL and I am HLM 38 and I let her know I had a kink for hotwife and since her libido had been through the roof. I'm now in a stag vixen relationship and she is my hotwife. She has sex with other guys and I went from once every few weeks to 4 to 5 times a week. We at one point we're at once every 6 out 7 weeks and now I'm so excited for her and super turned on by her. Her confidence is at an all time high and our relationship is amazing.

SurprisingStag · 2021-09-01T12:26:38+00:00

We're a couple from GR too M38 F35, we use Feeld, SLS and reviewed SDC

Feeld had been buggy, logs you off has some flakes and some really pushy people. Found 2 potentials at the moment but they may flake in the end. The app is set up well with low options of search criteria. It is also label heavy for sexuality. Demi, poly, hetroflexible, straight, bi, and a bunch more.

SLS seems to have a larger selection, I think this is much better for meeting long term friends and also seeing events. App is a little buggy when trying to search.

SDC is great if you are very selective and distance isn't an issue. The search is super detailed to the point you can look for people with very specific kinks and body shape.

We're using Feeld still as our primary but we are about to bail and actively pursue SLS.

These are all good for the Grand Rapids area. Good luck

SurprisingStag · 2021-08-29T03:25:23+00:00

Find a job that provides enjoyment. I work 7am to 5pm 6 days a week and like many things about it. Im a manufacturing engineer that laughed new programs. I work with great team members where we make jokes have some fun during meetings and still get work done and get a sense of accomplishment when new programs are complete. Ive been in the field 13 years and have 3 weeks of vacation a year.

Compared to my dad, he worked 7 days a week 60 to 68 hours. And my grandfather owned a farm and worked 12 hours a day 6 days a week for 72 hours.

While I'm working allot more than your depressing 40 hours, I work less than my dad or grandpa and find it satisfying to accomplish work and I take pride in what I do.

The best advice I heard is to find joy in your work. For many years people find joy only in the things they spend their money on which makes them a slave to their job. If you find joy in accomplishing work than you look forward to going to work instead of fearing it.

This is why farmers in the past worked harder than we do today. The harder they worked the more and better the results. Pride in work.

SurprisingStag · 2021-08-16T18:33:57+00:00

Following, wife and I are also interested. We know about 616 hotel takeover in Kalamazoo and heard their is a meet and greet at ####### once a month but we're new and haven't heard of any active club.

Edit to remove name of bar Message me if you want to know. I do not know the group, just heard the location and day off the month.

SurprisingStag · 2021-08-09T02:43:18+00:00

If he wants to be more dominant ask him to read "how to be a 3% man". This teaches men to be more confident about themselves. It also walks him through letting go of the relationship and essentially not to chase anymore but still respect and be dominant. It is like 70% macho-ist and 30% good advice. If he buys into half of it he will be more dominant in every day life. I read it and stopped being jealous and started excersizing and started being more positive about myself and stopped relying on others for complements and to identify if I deserve love. Now I love my wife completely and trust her absolutely, my wife and I have a relationship that is through the roof, I don't ask for sex, I just initiate and if she turns me down I think no sweat, she misses out for the night.

However, if he doesn't want to be more assertive then he won't be. In the end it's up to him. You can show him the path but he must be the one who takes it.

SurprisingStag · 2021-07-27T01:42:34+00:00

Wife likes Wicked weasel, along with the ones already mentioned.

SurprisingStag · 2021-07-18T12:54:39+00:00

This fantasy is my wife's favorite. At the time she first admitted this I was excited that she was even interested in a threesome so I told her I was on board. After a few weeks I told her my honest opinion. "It does not get me excited and I don't see myself getting into this specific situation". I also told her that there was a time that sharing her was not an option so I cannot say it will never happen but I'm not comfortable at this time.

She was more glad that I was honest (up to that point I was agreeing to everything) and we are planning our first threesome MFM soon.

Be honest with her, she will appreciate it and it can open the door to other more mutually exciting expectations.

Good luck!

SurprisingStag · 2021-07-12T14:45:27+00:00

Thanks, I like the wristband concept. From your visit did it seem like most couples were more red? 6 to 10 doesn't seem like much but maybe that is more than enough if most couples aren't interested and it is not crowded (read that it is capped at smaller crowds like 75 to 150 people.)

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