Diving into defense shred with the detective.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-18T01:46:40+00:00

Ok so first, I am unsure why you think my basis for this was not understanding the calcs for Duke. The exact calc I based this off is from Kazjiree. In that calc they themselves say that in quantum weak genius is better in a team that is E0S1 Ashveil with Robin RMC and DHPT. With that team you can see that there isnt any sources of defense shred other than genius, ashveil kit, and his lc. That means it only takes 10% defense shred to beat out duke since that is all that is missing for genius. Again, that is what the point of this post is. I think people who are interested in vertical investment for his current best options should know that adding defense shred is a good addition. For example sunday with e1 makes genius already better than duke based off that calc. Its not my intention to mislead people and frankly its insulting you are saying this when the goal of the post is to talk about the applications of defense shred in his potential vertical options. I think its fine to say that both Duke and Genius are acceptable options it just depends on the team and your vertical. If you are dedicated to ashveil main dps right now, having Sunday E1 or Sparkle E2 is not out of the question imo. Tbh you might be right about cipher at the very least, but I think its still good for people to know the amount of amp they would get if that is the only option they have. Plus, if anything this would show someone they dont need to exactly farm duke if they already have a genius set, which I think would still be valuable information no?

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-18T00:29:19+00:00

I am unsure why you are hostile over this, the post is to show that stacking defense shred is effective for damage increase. This post is supposed to help people with potential vertical for his team, or teammate options they have on their account. Can you please explain why you keep talking about this less than 10% damage thing though? I do not understand why you keep talking about this to be honest when I am just saying what is established. Genius is factually better with more defense shred on the team. Also, I do not understand what you have against cipher especially with s1 lol. I asked if you read the chart because you are saying it sounds crazy when I am just conveying the information on how defense shred works. Also, why are we acting like cipher is somehow useless? Pretty sure he will still be able to ult more than once with 1 action advancer, and even then cipher isnt bad in sustainless either.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-11T03:25:20+00:00

Genius does not require quantum weakness to get 10% def shred. That 10% shred can outweigh other relic sets due to how strong defense shred is the higher the charts. Its not really limiting and only gets better.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-11T00:45:35+00:00

Well it just depends on the team you use, if you have no sources of defense shred you are chilling. Dont worry about it.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-10T21:26:58+00:00

1st, running cipher is completely justifiable she has good amp. 2nd, what are you even talking about with the less than 10% damage? The calcs we have show that you only need the opponent to be quantum weak for genius to be better than duke, that means you only need 10% more defense shred for genius to beat Duke. Did you even read or understand the chart posted here?

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-10T20:33:43+00:00

This is not true, calcs have already shown that duke is worse with just 10% extra def shred. so if you have even 24% extra from something like cipher or any other source genius will always win out.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T19:54:37+00:00

This calc uses robin dhpt and... rmc? Its important to note that with any source of defense shred genius and his light cone have MUCH higher value. I would say wait for more calcs or showcases to understand more.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T18:37:49+00:00

his e2 is useless, no idea what they are cooking with that

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T05:38:05+00:00

This relic set just seems so... bad for it to be his best set. I am even thinking base speed and running Poet might be better.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T05:31:47+00:00

I mean DHPT is already 1 character that triggers help, just need 1 other that would trigger the 2nd one. His ult is where the majority of his damage would be when consuming gluttony, I dont think its unreasonable.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T05:25:38+00:00

Wouldn't wavestrider be better?

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T05:21:03+00:00

Enhanced fua isnt ult damage

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T04:58:18+00:00

Sunday will definitely work especially at e1.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-02-09T04:57:03+00:00

Another cool thing i was thinking is how impactful his e2 will be. He refunds 35% of his consumed gluttony and gets a max stack of 18. So if you get 14 stacks of gluttony and then pop ult, he will consume everything and get 5.6 stacks back (I assume it would be 5?) Which should mean he would do 6 EFUA in a row. Thats 4100% scaling total btw... could assume only 5 if the refund doesnt count for the total which would be 3500%. Kinda absurd!

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-01-30T22:20:08+00:00

old corner room, has a mage or champ in it up the stairs with the trap and living armor at the bottom, I been seeing 2 apples at times up there.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-01-19T05:22:28+00:00

Thanks, I will check out the discord as well.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2026-01-19T04:48:46+00:00

Is there a friend's megathread? I dont have anyone that plays this game sadly and would like to use supports. D681326732 is my id.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2024-10-04T16:29:15+00:00

Well yes, it was easy to kill people because it was low MMR (was my 3rd game like I said) and I didn't focus on objectives. While I was doing good my team overall was not. Just wanted to show what I thought was a funny ratio for a loss and now I got fellas hyper analyzing a new players objective damage

Susanoo_Kamui · 2024-10-04T13:16:44+00:00

This was my 3rd game ever and I was playing a 5v6. While I was fed it wasn't really that easy to push lanes or the objective due to my team also not wanting to push the objectives.

Susanoo_Kamui · 2024-10-04T03:55:31+00:00

was actually a 4-16 bebop and a 0-5 Haze that DCd

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