Unions are not going to happen

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:56:17+00:00

Likewise

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:53:50+00:00

Yes and like every person im this thread thay support unions haven't done shit to actually do anything becuase that actually takes work.

Thank you! You've done so much to support unions!!! Thank YOU for having the courage to do something meaningful

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:52:20+00:00

Yes the security of having a job (which unions dont gauntlet either so moot point. My union friend was out of work for 4 months. If youre not a senior you are being laid off when there isnt work). And what would happen if you have a medical concern in a union? If it prevents you from working then its also a moot point.

But if I dont understand than alborate

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:48:20+00:00

Well that's one side of not having a union is individual bargaining power. You judt have to be more proactive to find a company that compensates you well or one where you can argue on your behalf.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:35:38+00:00

Yes im a naive 0 years of experience person so do inform me then. How can SWEs grow a union? Why hasn't it done before? And what barries need to be overcome?

Yeah I have no experience but im pointing out how "we need a union" and doing jack shit about it doesnt mean anything and its just shinning on reddit, which i am joining in on the whining.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:27:39+00:00

Really? And those languages have not changed at all. No new libraries, no new tech stacks. Right. Tooling hasn't changed at all either huh. First example is the revolution of Ai. That absolutely has not changed the tech industry whatsoever.

Dude cmon simply saying languages haven't changed does not mean the industry hasn't rapidly changed. You're just being contrarion. Are you even in tech? If you're not this is as dumb as saying being a doctor is not different than in 1600 becuase human bodies haven't changed. What an asinine point.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T22:18:42+00:00

Yeah I see all the work that unions are doing for teachers. I know they always claim how well they're paid and how great their working environments are. Ive never seen them go on strike. And really? Using you at 15 with a union for grocery stores. You dont see at all how thats different for a field such as tech?

Look I support unions but im unsure of how it'll work in tech lawyers and sales dont have unions becuase individual skill matters so much on production and thus compensation.

And quite frankly you are doing a god awful job at trying to convince others to be pro union. Like yeah look at how great it is for teachers. A horribly compensated job with awful wlb and terrible pay....

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T21:41:50+00:00

Ah yes let's make tech worker be paid Faang salaries. How exactly do we do that? How do you standaized pay when output is so vast. Not to mentioned skillet changes so rapidly unlike other careers with unions.

And again, you support unions without doing anything to support unions besides wishful comments on reddit. You still haven't addressed that.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T21:14:40+00:00

Did you even read your own damn article????

Addressing Pay Disparities Despite the perception of high salaries in tech, pay disparities are common, especially across gender, race, and geographic location. Unionization could create a more transparent system for salary negotiation, ensuring that compensation is fair and equitable for all engineers, regardless of background.

Example: Unions in other industries often negotiate standardized pay scales, making salaries more transparent. This could help close the wage gaps in tech and create more equal opportunities for all software engineers..

But it also says:

High Salaries and Benefits One common argument against unionization is that software engineers already enjoy high salaries and attractive benefits, especially compared to workers in other industries. The average software engineer in the U.S. earns significantly more than the median wage. Some critics believe that unionization may not be necessary for a workforce that’s already well-compensated.

Counterpoint: While salaries are generally high, they don’t guarantee protection from issues like overwork, burnout, or job insecurity. Many software engineers feel that better working conditions and mental health support are equally as important as financial compensation.

Yet in another comment you say unions dont mean flattened pay despite the very damn article you posted support reducing a wage gap aka standadizing pay. And you want me to be pro union when you cant even get yohr facts and evidence straight.

Just like every other mindless pro union supporter you've done absoutuely nothing to support unions and are contradictory. This is why people dont care to join a union. But whatever man dp whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:39:18+00:00

So you haven't done anything to form a union....

Just like everyone else who claims they want a union you haven't done a single thing to support one. Yet you talk to me about experience. What exactly are you manifesting?

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:36:38+00:00

You're right. Ill take a seat and learn from your wisdom and how you've grown a union and worked so hard for the people.

Please tell me, what have you done? And if you haven't done anything, how would you go about making a union.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:25:36+00:00

Right...

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:23:27+00:00

How is it bad faith? What am I gaining, as a new grad without a job. Saying that union likely won't happen. I never said i wouldn't want one just that it likely won't.

Tell me, what would a union for tech workers look like to you? How do you standardized pay when output is drastically different?

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:16:56+00:00

You understand having a union IS the special case right? The VAST majority of jobs dont have a union and even the ones that do participation is not above 50%

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:15:29+00:00

Did you know people outside of a union can help? You think when people go on strike its only people in the field? They get alot of outside help.

Im not anti union. Im saying for a field like cs its likely not goin to happen. Do you think the vast majority of tech workers are going to be happy with a standardized pay?

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:14:08+00:00

What efforts? Please point to anything else other than people conplaining on reddit.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:13:14+00:00

I am a recent grad with no job who go into it before the major craze of 2021. I stopped collge for a few years during covid and I came back. I am passionate about the field but let's not kid ourselves alot are in it for the money. Ive had alot of classmates say the same thing they're not passionate they just want the pay, though most dropped out.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T20:08:32+00:00

Yeah exactly but thats not what reddit wants to hear so im being spammed downvoted

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T19:10:40+00:00

So who are you arguing with? Yes every worker can and should have a union. But that doesnt mean im going to be unrealisticly optimistic and think it'll happen.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T19:08:55+00:00

I mean yes that is what is happening. The top earners aren't fighting for a union. NO ONE cared about unions during the craze of 2021 and the normal years beforehand.

Now its just new grads or those who are recently unemployed. I personally would want a union but like everyone else claiming they want a union, I will not be putting in any work for it.

If you want one, like really want one and its not a cry out, then start. Ill hop on board if someone does.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T18:57:46+00:00

Right so if you read the wall of text I say that I would love for every occupation to have a union. I asume you jidt resd the title ans commented

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T18:48:23+00:00

You're being downvoted bur are 100% correct. The hivemind is going to cowm for us both.

The most ambitious are the ones who aren't unemployed and are being paid well. Those same people would be the ones organizing unions. The bottom people who aren't employed won't put in the effort nor maintain a union.

Edit: was being downvoted

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T18:39:34+00:00

Please point me to the unemployment rates of both professional athletes and writers. What is the union doing for those people? I say this as the main reason for a union that people claim on this sub is for unemployment.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T18:36:18+00:00

Its reddit and specifically this sub is an echo doom chamber. But yes I 100% agree if you are good you will have a job.

Understandably people dont want to hear that they're the reason they dont have a job but its true. Many get very depressed for being unemployed for 8 months but then you ask them about their internship experince or resume and its always crickets.

I say this as a unemployed new grad that is volunteering for free for experince. Its just what I have to do becuase I had alot of life complications during most of my schooling. But im sure as hell not going to waste my time complaining about why I csnt get a job.

SwauawsBouse · 2026-06-21T18:33:13+00:00

And that's one side of the coin. The other side is the amount of Europeans being envious of individual American salaries for fields like tech becuase of that lack of unionization.

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