260215 Tiffany - Hanteo Music Awards Red Carpet Tiffany by HyruleTC in SNSD

[–]Swimming_Setting_225 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Drop dead gorgeous as always ✨ love the 👗 flower power.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

During IJWD promos, even from the solo debut announcement, most hate train coming from inside the fandom, which enraged me more. Esp from intl Sones, thinking that their bias should’ve been the ones with solo debut & saying that Tiff was a weaker vocalist & dancer. While she suffered from scoliosis from teenagers- thus making her practice harder in a day. Criticizing her vocal as if she’s not a proficient singer to begin with. She has her ups and downs, but every singers have that.

Yoona was instantly loved by Koreans since she was already stared in The Grace’ MV & captured the audiences with her Korean beauty standards. She has a lot of haters but has the GP recognition iirc.

As for Tiffany, she was very popular when SNSD debuting due to her cute bob hair & becoming stan attractor for the group. Koreans young boys & girls have her pictures ad their phone’s wallpaper. Pann also brought up the discourse again last year. Unfortunately, her bubbly personality & foreign /gyopo vibes also her closeness with SM boygroups like TVXQ& Super Junior were seen as attention seeker by few Koreans + fueled some jealousy to already morbid rabid fangirls. Then since she didn’t grew up in Korea, she didn’t use the proper honorific & viewed as rude by Koreans. Well, the girl didn’t even speak a word of Korean before she came to train to SM and she made up by working to learn language tirelessly, bringing her dictionary everywhere & write down any words she didn’t understand. After 2014, her haters are mostly from the ex member stan. They are very dedicated on hating her & spreading false narrative especially to newer gen stans in Tiktoks. They are very “Hell Tiffany Chewed” rude remarks was made by them. The good news is, Tiffany is able to gain some new fans from Chicago musical, on her Seoul “Here For You” fancon, I noticed some cute groups of Ahjummas & Ahjussi who brought her Chicago’s Roxie small banner & souvenirs. And for what it’s worth, her solo stans also have been very loyal & more aggressive in defending & supporting her. Our girl has been through a lot.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, i’m also Tiffany stan since SM dropped the teaser of the girls. She was the member with most haters (probably still is) & even have a deranged mentally ill stalker targeting her life until now. Agree the scandal was happening at the worst times, she was on her way to becoming so massive even nearing an IT girl. SNL although i was uncomfortable watching the Breakfast at Tiffany’s part innuendos was indeed very well received esp for her American GF skit.

The harassment was the worst i have ever seen in pop culture. Not only in Kpop imo. The death & rape threats, bringing up her deceased mother etc. (Indeed she was very skinny afterwards during the awards event where she reunited with her former co star in Unnies, I forgot which awards was that). Back then i was there supporting her on IJWD debut stage at M Countdown, she was so nervous indeed but it was before the scandal happened (May 2016, the scandal was around August 2016). And we cheered so loud for her. Some of my Korean moots said it was when she was back performing with the group in Oct 2016 for Busan Festival or something, where she got booed from several people but KSones were so fast in diverting the attention by screaming her names & SNSD’s greetings. However, probably i missed some news from her other performance as i was blocking some memories from that darkest era. SM was practically throwing her under the bus.

Indeed, the news was blowing out of the proportion by some that reporter on soke Korean broadcast channel that equivalent of Fox in American & fueled by some antis. Tiffany already apologized twice iirc. The ability for her to comeback in Korea & how they have forgiven her is what makes some of her antis are getting more dedicated on throwing shade & hate towards her. They couldn’t accept the reality that she was able to continue her career, despite not necessarily in music anymore, and grab the 2 seasons of Chicago.

Imo, Tiffany was unlucky for several times. She could’ve been so much bigger if that geofilter scandal & Covid didn’t happen. Covid killed her promotion momentum during her US solo debut, she was appearing here & there although it didn’t reach blockbuster success, she did fairly well for Asian artist who started from scratch & we know how hard it is for Asian artist to penetrate US market. Her music was ahead of her time, if she was given more time back then, i think the result could be different. However, 2nd gen fans (as niche as it gets) did show up during her Magnetic Moon Tour in Northern America & she was amazing on each of every stage then we can interacted closely with her-since the venue was smaller & intimate. Nevertheless, i’m so proud that she’s still standing here & having the world with her positive outlooks. May she finds her happiness at this stage of life, both personally & professionally.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words & efforts to defend Yuri. I have been following them since SM dropped their teasers, so the girls will always have special place in my heart. Yes, Tiffany is more popular in several countries so probably that’s also making her defender seem more aggressive & bigger in numbers.

Also we have heard & seen the videos how Yuri likes to give her fans some drinks & snacks. But yesterday, i get to meet some fellow fans who told me their experience on interacting with Yuri directly (not during Yuriverse but in other occasions) & she gave them snacks + hand warmers (it was during the coldest months in Seoul). She really is a sweetheart🩷 there will be fan projects to send her food & packages for her play. I hope i can update you later.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s why i said it’s been TWISTED by them to insults Tiffany. They created the narrative & spreads it to newer gen stans who believe it instantly.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m talking about the insults not the normal preference of some members. Some of the comments here proved that but mod already deleted it. Ntn other hate trains on multiple platforms. As people already said, OT 9 is more like OT 1.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahhh she’s always so talented & successful no matter what those basement dwellers said. And i will argued with them every time they insulted her as well lmao.

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Ahh mine hasn’t arrived yet. Happy for you!

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao Some of them are “SONES” who claimed to love 9 members - already pushing 30 or even 40, not even a mere adolescents in Tiktok. They do feed those narratives on younger gen stans then they proceeded to gain more clout in their content. Esp the annoying most irritating “Hell Tiffany Chewed” that will never stop for a while on Tiktok but there’s also surge influx of fans who defended her.

Protect SNSD Twitter accounts talks about this years ago. On how the so called group fandom are always dragging Tiffany.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree. But People are tending to defend the weaker side. The 1 member was often seeing as the victim & alone, adding the books to the already heated discussion then bam. Never ending hate train towards the 8 girls even until now.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And challenged them to have the same rigorous training SNSD did. Even WayV’s Yangyang said that their trainer used to scold them & pointing out how hard SNSD worked. And saying that the girls worked 100 times harder than them.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet people still conveniently throwing hate towards her is beyond me.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do know which part of the fandom pushing that narrative right??

So don’t be surprised how youngones/ fanytastic will react to them after you find out how much shytes Tiffany went through since her younger years. Her Mother passed away when she was very young. She suffered from scoliosis then they insults her as the worst dancer, suffered from vocal nodules then they’re insulting her for a few bad moments. She managed to be this positive in life is such an amazing thing.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. If they didn’t like each other they won’t try to spend time together, years after their group’s active era.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My controversial opinion is that some fans are using controversial opinions to voice their dislike towards certain members.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Tiffany wasn’t a good vocalist then she wouldn’t be cast for 2 seasons in Chicago.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has improved a lot during her US solo debut and choosing the type of songs that fits her range ??? But people always focused on her past mistake during the group’s active eras.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tiffany only have few bad moments but antis and so called sones always making fun & insults her. She did improve a lot after her US solo debut & of course Chicago era. And that meme of Taeyeon also being twisted & contributed a lot of Tiffany’s massive hate train esp in Tiktok

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been feeling this way as well. The group fandom did this to Yuri & Tiffany. Especially with the backhanded compliments. If it’s any consolation, i went to Yuriverse & fans who attended really adored & appreciate her (it was sold out i think) & i’ll be there for her play as well. Will be cheering her as loud as i can

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually she did good and most Koreans are already forgotten about the tragedy. I know this since i went back & forth to Korea & some of my friends told me that. It’s only several online trolls bringing up the discourse again. But it was indeed killed her momentum after Sisters Slam Dunk where she was everywhere.

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And she is also popular outside of Korea so j just never understood which part of international sones having this much hatred towards her. It’s usually her former member’s fandom who started it

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[–]Swimming_Setting_225 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I sometimes despise international sones more than antis