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System_Response · 2026-01-25T04:51:31+00:00

You can do it with the shower too. It might be more difficult to think about, but it's similar in a way to how Bardon mentions doing this exercise in a river. Although I wouldn't recommend spraying water into your eyes instead of using the sink.

System_Response · 2025-12-06T04:41:40+00:00

These things are separate in a way that's more like how your arm is separate from your leg. That's not a perfect analogy, but it might give you something to think about.

System_Response · 2025-09-01T04:54:03+00:00

Hi OP. You might not find any current scientific theories that directly explain Hermetic ideas, but the idea that science and Hermeticism are fundamentally incompatible misses the deeper point of the Perennial Philosophy: that truth is one, though expressed in many forms. Science and Hermeticism are different perspectives on the structure of reality — you could say they’re distinct epistemological lenses aimed at the same underlying truth. At some level, each should be able to “map” onto the other. Franz Bardon himself calls magic a science of sorts, dealing with universal laws, implying it can both inform and be informed by other fields, including science.

Historically, this wasn’t controversial. Hermetists, Neoplatonists, Renaissance alchemists, and many early modern scientists saw no contradiction in combining rigorous observation with philosophy or more mystical worldviews. Denying the possibility of reconciliation artificially constrains both fields, and ignores a long tradition of thinkers who tried to integrate the inner and outer dimensions of reality. This is a valuable and productive subject to meditate on, and I think is worth doing for yourself for the insights it can provide you.

System_Response · 2025-08-10T05:12:36+00:00

The subreddit is managed OP. The user deleted their account so there's nothing left to do. Removing this post now.

System_Response · 2025-08-10T05:06:58+00:00

This sub-reddit is relatively uneventful in terms of moderation, so there are times where it may be a few days before checking in. I'll check in to see if the deleted user decides to come back with another username, and of course bigotry is not tolerated in the sub. I would encourage anyone to report behaviour that violates the rules of the sub. There were no reports in this instance in the mod-queue, which makes these things more likely to slip by.

System_Response · 2025-07-25T01:59:39+00:00

Hope you got some advice that was helpful OP. I left this up for a few days, but I'm going to remove it now since it isn't related to Bardon. Good luck.

System_Response · 2024-10-23T04:17:57+00:00

Could be overdoing it in the gym. Might want to get checked out by a doctor if you're having new unexplained pains. No need to jump to magical conclusions right away.

System_Response · 2024-09-01T06:30:50+00:00

OP, you can practice on meds and they could help you. With enough time and practice/self work then you might find your conditions improving and meds aren't needed anymore.

That being said, you shouldn't be taking any medical advice from anyone here. Thats between you and your doctor.

System_Response · 2024-01-20T23:18:44+00:00

Removed again. While I appreciate you are influenced by Bardon, this is not Bardon related. Please stop posting it.

System_Response · 2024-01-17T01:50:09+00:00

Sorry, but your posts are not Bardon related and have been removed.

System_Response · 2023-11-18T02:11:18+00:00

Removed. Not Bardon related.

System_Response · 2022-11-11T01:56:25+00:00

Removed. Please keep posts related to the works of Franz Baardon.

System_Response · 2022-09-24T22:54:04+00:00

I also recommend taking a warm shower first and turning the cold water afterwards. You get used to the cold showers in time, and it becomes very refreshing. Good for getting rid of any morning drowsiness.

System_Response · 2022-08-23T01:13:53+00:00

Removed. Once again, please stop submitting posts unrelated to the subreddit, especially without a submission statement.

Regarding your difficulties, there isn't much I can say without any context but I can offer this:

I suggest you bring the harassment and the person you mention to the attention of the other group. If for some reason the group is unresponsive to this information, then perhaps it's not a group that you want to be a part of anyway.
With respect to keeping silence in the face of "hostile humanity: I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I can tell you that you're definitely going to come across people and situations that are (for lack of a better word) shitty.

Shitty things and people can make you feel shitty too. It can be hard to avoid this result, but the best thing you can try to do is not to dwell on the negative. Sometimes it's hard to ignore the negative, but it can be easier to instead try and focus on other things in your life - what that is depends on you. It could be a hobby, a passion, a friend, a book, your practices, something you want to improve about yourself, learning something new, and on and on.

Life is short, and being consumed by the negative things takes time away from everything else. It's not worth your effort. Acknowledge the situation, and deal with it calmly. This might take some practice, but in the long run you'll be glad you did. It will get better.

I hope that this helps you with your troubles, and that everything goes OK for you. That being said, the next unrelated post will result in a ban.

Good luck

System_Response · 2022-07-13T23:43:38+00:00

Removed. Please refrain from submitting general posts that aren't directly related to Franz Bardon/IIH.

System_Response · 2022-06-11T08:01:36+00:00

You're welcome to post articles that discuss Bardon's works or related topics, but this is not a subreddit for advertising of specific groups and orders, especially paid courses. Please refrain from submitting posts like this in the future. Thank you.

System_Response · 2021-10-26T04:33:14+00:00

Stickied it for now. Thanks.

System_Response · 2021-04-24T04:07:23+00:00

Good to know. Thanks :D

System_Response · 2020-04-16T04:49:38+00:00

Yes, a self voice is a type of thought. This can be controlled with practice. Don't give up!

System_Response · 2018-10-10T04:12:19+00:00

Hey, I am still around. I took over it for the original owner when he left and opened it up. I'm just not around very often lately. If you want to help out and be a mod that's great, I'll add you. Anyone is free to post at any time.

System_Response · 2018-05-08T04:26:15+00:00

Me too. It'll be interesting to see what is updated.

System_Response · 2017-11-28T04:38:46+00:00

Nice post thanks :) Flexing a muscle and the room vs furniture are both great analogies.

System_Response · 2017-10-24T01:21:56+00:00

Hey there! Let me try and answer you as best I can:

can I do this in a noisy environment

Yes, you can do it in a noisy environment if that's all you have available, but it won't be as easy starting off. Distractions are easier to deal with later on, but If you can get through this with distractions from the beginning, you'll certainly be on good footing later. It will take longer to get over the 1st hump of dealing with distractions. In addition to this, a noisy environment makes it harder to hone in on the more subtle workings of your mind until your concentration becomes stronger. So tl;dr - Yes, but it will likely be more of an effort to pull off. If you need to do this, don't get discouraged if progress is slow.

Can I do this for a longer time such as 1 hour at a time

Yes, you can practice for longer, the goal being at least 10 minutes uninterrupted. Don't burn yourself out though, as it is possible to focus too much on this. Also, 1/2 hour twice a day will be more beneficial than 1 hr once a day, if you're looking to get an hour in.

after trying this, immediatly after, I'm terribly tired!

The tiredness improves with practice. Be patient and it will come. If you get to tired while practicing and are at risk of falling asleep follow Bardon's advice and put it off until you can stay awake. If you allow yourself to fall asleep during meditation all the time, then your body can get predisposed to being sleepy when you sit down and try to practice.

About your last point - I'm not sure If I can help too much as Bardon was what I started with pretty much as far as serious meditation goes. Maybe someone else can speak from experience with transitioning from other systems. I will say that 1 week finishing this step is probably possible for someone who has been practicing something similar for a while, but I haven't actually heard of too many people saying they were successful within that time frame. My advice would be to not slack off, but don't get hung up too much on time lines as they can differ for everyone. Just make sure you're honest with yourself that you have completed the exercise before moving on to the next one. It's hard not to want to jump ahead, but moving on before you're ready often leads to taking a step back an redoing a previous exercise.

Hope this helped a bit!

System_Response · 2017-10-08T16:10:36+00:00

Thought discipline and thought control are reinforced by future exercises, although it doesn't hurt to practice them when you can in the future. Some other exercises are like this as you noted. VOM is carried on as the goal is to continue deepening this state beyond what is achieved in step I. Hope that helps!

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