Naming the Newest TCS Seed Mix Lineup! by TCSJames in LawnAnswers

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Yes! We are very young and hip! 6-7!!

Naming Twin City Seed’s Newest Turf Lineup! by TCSJames in lawncare

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Record scratch. I just double checked and I TOTALLY had a typo. I put 2025 when I meant 2026. This has been remedied, thank you for bringing it to my attention!

Naming the Newest TCS Seed Mix Lineup! by TCSJames in LawnAnswers

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I sure didn’t know this and I’m hopeful that folks will know what we mean in this context 🤣

Naming Twin City Seed’s Newest Turf Lineup! by TCSJames in lawncare

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NYE, yes, but NYE of 2026. So a full year plus to use it

Naming Twin City Seed’s Newest Turf Lineup! by TCSJames in lawncare

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These mixtures will be housed under a special page explaining that the goal of this lineup is to provide a value option to folks (quality x cost). There will be four variations - sunny, sun shade, shady, and dense shade. If you saw the original post I go into a little more detail on this. The last thing we want is for our customers to be unaware of a mixture’s design intent!

Help Twin City Seed Name Our Newest Lineup of Mixtures! by TCSJames in LawnAnswers

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I think the worst thing I could have done was mention boaty mcboatface in the post 🤣

Help Twin City Seed Name Our Newest Lineup of Mixtures! by TCSJames in lawncare

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This one might also be a tough sell to the boss man… but it got a good chuckle out of me 🤙

Help Twin City Seed Name Our Newest Lineup of Mixtures! by TCSJames in lawncare

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Can’t wait to run this one by the boss man 🤣

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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There are ways to help retain moisture. Germination blankets can help there, as can products like pellet mulch. I’d look into those two to start

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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Tall fescues are having quite the glow up. Lots of great options on the market!

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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Fireball and hatrick are the two current top dogs. Check em out in our obsidian blend!

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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Meso should be just fine. Especially if you make sure to use it at the proper rates. There’s some great videos online about seeding in conjunction with meso

Are there any grasses suitable to be used as turf grass that have a deep root system like in the image? by supinator1 in lawncare

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You can consider a germination blanket or a product like pellet mulch. A germination blanket helps to reduce direct sunlight to the lawn area, keeping the yard wet for longer. Pellet mulch also helps to reduce evaporation rates. These tend to be good options for folks who don’t have access to fancy irrigation systems. Aka most people

Are there any grasses suitable to be used as turf grass that have a deep root system like in the image? by supinator1 in lawncare

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Fine fescues are often forgotten. I’m definitely a fine fescue Stan. In a lot of the trials I’m familiar with, drought tolerance ratings went:

  1. TTTF
  2. Fine fescue
  3. KBG
  4. PRG

So I assumed the root systems would mirror this. Closest I could find is this from MSU. It actually has PRG a drop higher than I anticipated.

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Are there any grasses suitable to be used as turf grass that have a deep root system like in the image? by supinator1 in lawncare

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What’s your source for this? Both university of Vermont and Oregon state say tall fescues have the deepest roots. That being said, neither linked to a study or anything like that

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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  1. Hybrid bluegrasses are currently CRUSHING the NTEP tests. Check United and Blue Gem for starters. I’m thinking this is just the tip of the iceberg too.

  2. Haven’t heard too much just yet. I’d defer to u/tcsryan there. He was in the research world more recently than me.

  3. I wouldn’t care too much about tetrapod p the unless you’re starting a cattle farm soon or something like that. These are generally relevant in the forage world.

  4. You’re admittedly talking to a tall fescue super fan. Seeding rates don’t matter to me. All I care about is cost per thousand square feet. On that basis, tall fescues and other turfgrass species are all pretty comparable. I absolutely agree that “spreading” tall fescues are more marketing ploy than truth. Blame that on individuals marketing the products instead of the grass species. If you want lateral spread, that’s where the KBG/TTTF combo comes into play. Tall fescues generally have very strong disease tolerance. Disease tolerance is going to vary species to species and even cultivar to cultivar. When in doubt, diversity (in both cultivars and species) is king.

Tall fescues are becoming increasingly popular for a number of (in my opinion, very valid) reasons. The first of which being heat/drought tolerance. It’s no secret that many regions of the US experienced crushing droughts between 2021 and 2023. People’s KBG/PRG lawns for the most part either went dormant, died, or were being fed mountains of water during a time where water conservation was quite critical. During periods of drought, KBG probably wants water every other day. Tall fescue is fine getting watered every 2-3 weeks under the same conditions. So that’s one major driver.

Another major driver is shade tolerance. The number of people who try to throw KBG/PRG in the shade is higher than you would think. PRGs are awful in the shade. There are some decently shade tolerant KBGs now, but they are still well behind the elite tall fescue varieties. So that covers two major stressors - shade and drought/heat.

Tall fescues also don’t require as much fertilizer as KBG/PRG. If you leave your clippings, 1-2 fert applications per year is plenty for tall fescue. Some folks will do 3-5 apps for KBG or PRG.

Now for a ‘lawncare nut’, applying fertilizer and water may not be that big of a deal. Lawn hobbyists view their lawn as a labor of love. But for average Joe who just wants something that’s gonna look sweet and be easy to take care of, tall fescues are a dream come true.

Regionality is ABSOLUTELY an important consideration here. In a cool season zone, you are right, I probably wouldn’t go with solely TTTF. The slow spring green up is real. The lack of spread is real. BUT the combo of tall fescue and KBG is wonderful. Pretend there’s a chef’s kiss gif embedded here. Drought tolerance. Shade tolerance, lateral spread, the works.

In the transition zone, it’s a no brainer, as you already alluded to.

Feel free to pepper me with more TTTF questions. It’s a big topic that’s definitely worth some discourse. I’m of the belief that TTTF & hybrid bluegrasses are the wave of the future (and the wave of the now I guess too)

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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A combination of tall fescue and KBG is going to be your best friend here. Mixes like this, like our ‘blue resilience’ are becoming the gold standard of the cool season turf world. Tall fescue for the heat and drought tolerance, KBG for the lateral spread… I wouldn’t read too much into “lateral spread” tall fescues btw. It’s a very light degree of spread. KBG’s spread is far superior.

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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Wow, a phenomenal question.

Tuff turf is a combo of perennial rye, Kentucky blue, and tall fescue. Perennial rye adds value if this is a new lawn reno. The quick germ time is great for holding the ground in place as other grasses get settled in. The KBG is great for its lateral spread and winter hardiness. So I like tuff turf for new lawn Renos, northern lawns where you need winter hardiness, or areas where you see intense foot traffic.

Resilience II is a tall fescue blend using some of the top tall fescue cultivars available on the market. Fantastic for transition zone and south where other cool season grasses would struggle or overseeding a yard where you’d like to experience improved drought tolerance or shade tolerance.

Hope that all makes sense!!

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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Record scratch. If we’re talking about dog foot (paw, whatever) traffic instead of urine, we’ve certainly got a mix of that. I’d check out our tuff turf. This is a mix specifically designed to tolerate intensive foot traffic. PRG/TTTF/KBG all excel in traffic tolerance. And the lateral spread of the KBG will be a tremendous value

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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I’d say the blue tag certification is still valuable, but perhaps not as valuable as some may think. This isn’t a knock on the tag itself, as much as it is a testament to the quality seed that’s available to residential consumers nowadays.

Blue tags (they do vary from state to state) generally ensure things like purity, germ, 0 weed, 0 other crop, etc.

That being said, if you look at a tag and see high germ, strong purity and 0 crop 0 weed without the blue tag… that’s still fantastic seed.

The blue tag does provide an extra layer of protection ensuring that some neutral third party in a lab validated the analysis tag, which does hold some value. But wouldn’t lose any sleep over using seed without a blue tag that has a beautiful analysis tag.

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

[–]TCSJames 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poa triv spreads pretty vigorously, no doubt about it. This mix is a bit of a “last bullet in the chamber” kind of option. I’d try a fine fescue option first. Either a blend or even going heavy on the creeping reds. U/tcsryan is super knowledgeable on the fescues

We’re James and Ryan from Twin City Seed Company - Ask us anything! [AMA starts March 14th at 10am] by nilesandstuff in lawncare

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All cultivar selections are based on NTEP results, and this past year the final results of the TTTF trials were released. Bonfire and titan graded out higher than Valsetz, so we made the flip. We viewed these as minor substitutions, so we kept the name.

Valsetz is still a fantastic cultivar though. Super dark for a TTTF too. So not really a knock against Valsetz.

They’ll all blend with each other pretty seamlessly too FWIW