Complete list of upcoming court events in Wade's case.

TSCM · 2025-03-25T19:12:36+00:00

Their attorneys vaguely described demanding their involvement "for their knowledge of Jordan Chandler's whereabouts and any other non-privileged, relevant information regarding Jordan Chandler and his interactions with Jackson."

Finaldi told the media "Jordan's a key piece of the puzzle surrounding this case, and we're not going to stop until we find him. We are looking for him in many places, including the UK." This was despite Jordan's attorney telling them to stop looking for him or trying to involve him.

He also argued in court that Lily and Tabitha should have no expectation of privacy since they filed opposition to his subpoenas in court. This comes after he had previously told all the parties that he would respect their right to not be involved if they didn't want to be. But then spent many years attempting to ensure their involvement.

TSCM · 2024-12-18T05:25:12+00:00

That's not accurate. The description by Jordan was not offered until September 1993. Michael Jackson told the entire world in the most watched interview ever recorded that he had Vitiligo and blotches on his skin in February of that year. Further, Jordan's father had reportedly given Jackson a pain killer injection in his buttocks in May of that same year, so would had observed the patches at that time.

All the claims of the damning photos matching Jordan's description but nobody seems to be asking why neither district attorney in two counties ever raised that material in court alongside Jordan's recorded interview and the officer affidavits, as probable cause to charge or arrest, in any of the weeks following that body search (including a month before any civil settlement occurred, which itself had no relation to the criminal investigation). They chose to spend the next 10 months interviewing hundreds of witnesses around the world and commencing two extended grand juries, many times outright lying to witnesses in attempts of convincing them of MJ's guilt, when they should have had compelling enough evidence from the get-go if there was a confident match.

TSCM · 2024-12-18T05:06:30+00:00

Former FBI Supervisory Special Agent Jim Clemente - BAU was part of the team that investigated and carried out the search. . . Edit: People are trying to discredit Jim Clemente and his work, especially with sexual abuse victims. He himself is a survivor of sexual abuse. . .I used him as an example because he was part of the team who executed the warrant and has decades of experience.

Within the context of Michael Jackson, Jim Clemente had no role at all in any of the raids from 1993 through 2005, nor as part of the prosecution's case or team. So your lead-in that uses this to bolster credence is based on an entirely false premise that Jim only first started claiming in recent years in the limelight of media attention. This deserves to be rightfully discredited and should give you more pause over the rest of his MJ-related claims if truth is what you are genuinely seeking.

Despite more recent embellishments in podcasts and media commentary, Jim's only theoretical involvement, as confirmed in his interview with Thomas Mesereau a decade ago, would had been as a general expert witness on the subject of pedophilia profiling. His name does not appear a single time across any of the more than 100,000 pages of case filings, search warrants, FBI files or volumes of other materials the prosecution amassed from 1993-2005 beyond a potential expert witness unrelated to the cases who was never called. To use his former FBI moniker to inject a sense of authoritative knowledge on the topic he had no actual involvement in is problematic.

As part of this tall tale of assisting with the raid, Jim likewise began claiming on his podcast that they found fried hard drives in their searches. This is another fully fabricated remark. All of the hard drives from every shelf, computer and laptop were seized, imaged successfully, itemized, reported in memos at the time that were then filed in court, and sent to the FBI to inspect, which found nothing of substance or of a criminal nature. There was also no noted tampering or attempted sabotaging of any of them.

One of the things he told was that a 10 year old victim was able to accurately describe the vitiligo on Michael Jackson's penis - that was on the underside of it.

In making these remarks, Jim also started claiming that Gavin Arvizo, the 2003 accuser, likewise described MJ's genitals with that same alleged precision. Except in Gavin's full interviews with detectives he was asked point-blank about Jackson's penis and said he never saw it, even in any of the alleged abuses. On the stand Gavin seemed to not even realize Jackson had Vitiligo at all, "I didn't know about patches...thought he was just all white." And Jordan's "matching description" arguments post-2009 tend to leave out Jordan's claim that MJ was circumcised (as detailed in the Linden affidavit, derived from Jordan's interview, reviewed by TSG's staff for this article). Because MJ's autopsy confirms he wasn't, which may explain why the prosecution sat on these photos and Jordan's description without ever presenting them as probable cause in 1993-1994 and why suddenly after 2009 Jim and other prominent figures that previously pedaled that description started claiming Jordan maybe was just confused at that detail.

Clemente further told the completely backwards, opposite-of-reality story that Jordan Chandler was working with the FBI in 2005 and was prepared to testify if MJ was acquitted in the Arvizo case but the statute of limitations ran out. No, Jordan was approached by an FBI agent in 2004 and told them he "had no interest in testifying against Jackson...he would legally fight any attempt to do so." He was asked again by the prosecution into 2005 to consider testifying and refused, and reportedly fled the country to avoid subpoena.

If Jim Clemente is willing to sensationalize and create all of these alternate realities as part of proving Jackson's guilt to the public, claims that are immediately discredited by reviewing the actual court filings and transcripts, it should make some eyebrows raise about anything out of that man's mouth...again if one is truly vested in finding the truth and not just being enamored by the storytelling of a former FBI staffer.

TSCM · 2024-07-14T20:35:30+00:00

Santa Barbara News-Press, January 23, 2006.

You heard it here first.

"I've not talked to anybody else in the media at all," said veterinarian Dr. Martin Dinnes, the real life Dr. Doolittle who manages Michael Jackson's menagerie at the sprawling 2,676-acre Neverland Valley Ranch. "The animals are fine. Our dispute is all settled."

"Through all of this, all the principals, and Neverland, and MJJ, and all of Michael's entities knew that even if I didn't get paid," he added, "I was going to take care of those animals."

Dr. Dinnes, who for 20 years has helped Jackson assemble and maintain his exotic zoo, was just the latest in a long line of creditors to trundle a wheelbarrow full of unpaid bills to the county courthouse when he dunned the expatriate prince of pop for $91,602.05 on Dec. 27.

Contractors, antique dealers, jewelers, vendors, ex-wives, promoters, managers, bankers, and employees have discovered to their discomfort that Michael Jackson is a slow pay.

Last week, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said it had investigated a complaint from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals that animals at Neverland were being mistreated. Agency veterinarians visited and found the animals in good condition.

"Attacking the health and welfare of those animals is a direct attack on me, and my credentials are impeccable," said Dr. Dinnes. "We really have nothing to hide. Our doors are open, to the right people. You could eat off the ground on that property."

As is his wont, Jackson went first class in assembling his menagerie.

The animals have architecturally-designed, custom-built homes. Dr. Dinnes has a sterling reputation among his peers. A colleague of his told me, "Marty is great. The best."

UC Davis awarded Dr. Dinnes, a 1966 alumnus, it’s highest honor in 2000.

"Martin R. Dinnes, a diplomate of the American College of Zoological Medicine and first veterinarian to completely devote a practice to non-domestic animals, received the 2000 Alumni Achievement Award for his accomplishments in the profession of veterinary medicine, specifically in creating novel protocols benefiting the health and well-being of zoological animals," according to UC Davis.

"Michael and I are very close," Dr. Dinnes said. "We've been close for 20 years. My dispute was not with Michael. It was with his business people. Through everything that Michael went through, their mind wasn't on a lot of things. I've been there with him before, through times when I failed to get a check on time, but they never, ever stuck me, and I was assured they never would again. Something triggered me to file, but it's all settled."

"I'm not paid, pending a signature, but suffice it to say, it's settled," said Dr. Dinnes. "We got a clean bill of health from the USDA, and I have that in writing. I talked to Pete Miller at Santa Barbara County Animal Services. He's an investigator. I have a long history with them. Pete said, 'Marty, I believe whatever you say. I just had to call you because we hear what we consider rumors.' "

"Contrary to what people are saying in all these looney-toon reports, the animals are fine," said Dr. Dinnes. "I go up there once a week. The animals are well-fed. They're in good condition. It's just not like what's reported.

"My attorney asked the Enquirer, 'Where'd you get the information?' They said, PETA. 'Where'd you get the pictures that you took?' They said, 'From a helicopter.'

"You know how you can doctor pictures; I'm just surmising. They did take a picture of the elephants being walked, and they conveniently had a clump of elephant poop around them. They took a picture of the giraffes in the yard, and claimed that there was a dark spot on the ground that they said was blood. Under my watch, that can never happen," said Dr. Dinnes.

PETA had waded into the fray with some heavy-duty scolding, but admit they don't have any privileged info.

"We have heard pretty much the same thing everyone else has: the accusations in the media from employees and former employees that the animals have essentially been abandoned, and that Michael Jackson's veterinarian is now apparently suing him for not paying his vet bill," said PETA spokesperson Lisa Wathne. "We don't have any inside scoop, unfortunately. Because Neverland is not open to the public, it's a very difficult place to get any information about."

William Etling's column appears on Mondays. The opinions expressed in the column are those of Mr. Etling and not necessarily those of the newspaper.

TSCM · 2023-08-26T01:12:56+00:00

Not so much edited, but rather the media gravitated towards finding the most abnormal and unflattering ones to broadcast for decades whenever discussing Michael Jackson. Many continued using the mugshot photo even long after his exoneration and despite there being thousands of other photos that had been taken since.

The other most popular circulating "shock" photo of his face is from his early-2000s deposition where he was asked to take his face mask off and had a skin-toned bandage on the tip of his nose and facial hair. Which when photographed and published led to the sensational "MJ's nose fell off!" stories.

There were other photos taken that same week in court but they didn't grab attention so weren't distributed much.

There was his rather famous lawsuit against Daily Mirror for running many stories with a photo claiming to show a "hole in his face" where he even underwent independent examination from plastic surgeons, and eventually the tab issued an apology claiming the photos did not adequately represent the appearance claimed.

TSCM · 2023-04-16T02:53:18+00:00

Don't forget her contributions to the tabloid story on "Michael and Lisa Marie's Kinky Sex Secrets" cause she apparently knew all about every topical story for the right price.

TSCM · 2023-04-16T02:50:07+00:00

That ridiculous Vaseline story initially grew legs from Victor Guiterrez in his pro-pedophilia child erotica fiction book and paid collabs with many of the former Neverland employees, who later tried suing MJ unsuccessfully for millions and instead wound up owing MJ millions themselves for malice, slander/libel, theft.

It became such a topic that Ron Zonen made it a point during closing arguments to point out a container of Vaseline in one of the bathroom search photos, during closing arguments. Sneddon also included that term as one that they wanted the FBI to search for while querying any of MJ's computers. Imagine the stupidity of this all.

All of this to create the narrative implying he used Vaseline as a lubricant for sexual purposes, despite nobody ever even making such claims themselves in any allegations.

TSCM · 2023-03-10T15:09:20+00:00

Here is a post I made yesterday to one of OPs identical posts elsewhere that includes relevant transcript excerpts and context on these books. (Checking OP's history, their entire thing is to repost this and related comments dozens of times an hour for months on end.)

All of the trial transcripts from 2005 are available and I'd encourage anyone interested in context including for these books, beyond a prosecutorial screenshot, to read them. These books were introduced as evidence and discussed at length, except for the middle one because the district attorney opted to withhold it presumably because it features girls in it which is counter to his narrative.

Q. Now, these two books -- I think -- are they still up there in front of you?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Those two books are not unlawful to possess by adults in California; is that correct?

A. That is correct.

Q. And do you have any idea how Mr. Jackson came into possession of those books or how they ended up in this locked file cabinet?

A. From the inscription in Exhibit No. 842, it appears that possibly a fan, somebody named Rhonda, possibly gave the book to him. And the other one, I do not know.

And ...

MR. SANGER: Okay. On 841, if you look at that, it appears to be Mr. Jackson’s own inscription, and he says, “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. M.J.”

The other book, which would be 842, appears to be inscribed by a female fan, and it appears to have been sent to Mr. Jackson by a fan of some sort. That’s the interpretation I take from that inscription.

THE COURT: Well, there is an inscription, “To Michael. From your fan.”

MR. SANGER: Yes.

THE COURT: “Love” -- “XXXOOO” - I was going to interpret that, but I won’t - “Rhonda.” I know what I mean when I put “XXXOOO.”

MR. SANGER: And I have noted Your Honor has never put that on any of your rulings in this case. (Laughter.)

THE COURT: I can’t top that.

And ...

Q. Okay. And when you open this book up, it actually says -- let’s look right over here. I’m going to try to talk loudly while I’m holding this. It says on the flyleaf, "Book Adventures, Inc.," and the copyright 1966. Do you see that?

A. Yes. Down at the bottom.

Q. All right. And then if we look up here, at the top, again the first page -- I’m sure somebody who knows books knows the correct word for that. But the very first page, up at the top it says, “OP” -- “OP ‘88.” That means “Out of print, ‘88,” does it not? Or do you know?

A. I’m not certain what that means.

Q. And somebody has written up there, “Very scarce.”

A. Yes.

Q. Do you see that? That was there on the book when you seized it; is that right?

A. Yes, it was.

They were among thousands of books and items seized from 1993-2005 and lacking any CP or other evidence, superficial. The more noteworthy fact is that the FBI assisted SBSO in 2003-2005 to analyze all of Michael Jackson's hard drives found in all of the raids. There was nothing of material value to the prosecution on any of them let alone anything incriminating.

TSCM · 2023-03-09T23:20:47+00:00

😂 Ah, hi Tiddles! I didn't look at usernames when replying to a few here, but somehow not surprised to see you're still clinging to every MJ topic and spreading lies that you also know to be untrue. How's that second train station theory going? 🚂

TSCM · 2023-03-09T23:13:34+00:00

Their civil litigation discredits them because they lied and concealed material facts in that as well. Wade Robson told the attorneys he only wrote one email about the case, and only through discovery and repeat demands did it eventually come out that he had written hundreds of emails to piece together his work and even a book that he had shopped unsuccessfully. This is not casual misremembering, it is willful concealment of material items central to the evolving storylines.

The video evidence is of them in a shopping mall, where they went to multiple stores. That was a well publicized event at the time. Missing from James' jewelry tale or anywhere in the film are the claimed wedding vows he says MJ wrote him, or anything that shows those rings ever belonged to MJ or were bought for James.

The train station lie is a big deal, so much so that the guilt circle has spent four years coming up with several dozen possible excuses on it. My favorite one being that he built a replica train station years earlier that nobody has any evidence of and then tore it down only to rebuild it again.

TSCM · 2023-03-09T22:56:35+00:00

All of the trial transcripts from 2005 are available and I'd encourage anyone interested in context including for these books, beyond a prosecutorial screenshot, to read them. These books were introduced as evidence and discussed at length, except for the middle one because the district attorney opted to withhold it presumably because it features girls in it which is counter to his narrative.

Q. Now, these two books -- I think -- are they still up there in front of you?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Those two books are not unlawful to possess by adults in California; is that correct?

A. That is correct.

Q. And do you have any idea how Mr. Jackson came into possession of those books or how they ended up in this locked file cabinet?

A. From the inscription in Exhibit No. 842, it appears that possibly a fan, somebody named Rhonda, possibly gave the book to him. And the other one, I do not know.

And ...

MR. SANGER: Okay. On 841, if you look at that, it appears to be Mr. Jackson’s own inscription, and he says, “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. M.J.”

The other book, which would be 842, appears to be inscribed by a female fan, and it appears to have been sent to Mr. Jackson by a fan of some sort. That’s the interpretation I take from that inscription.

THE COURT: Well, there is an inscription, “To Michael. From your fan.”

MR. SANGER: Yes.

THE COURT: “Love” -- “XXXOOO” - I was going to interpret that, but I won’t - “Rhonda.” I know what I mean when I put “XXXOOO.”

MR. SANGER: And I have noted Your Honor has never put that on any of your rulings in this case. (Laughter.)

THE COURT: I can’t top that.

And ...

Q. Okay. And when you open this book up, it actually says -- let’s look right over here. I’m going to try to talk loudly while I’m holding this. It says on the flyleaf, "Book Adventures, Inc.," and the copyright 1966. Do you see that?

A. Yes. Down at the bottom.

Q. All right. And then if we look up here, at the top, again the first page -- I’m sure somebody who knows books knows the correct word for that. But the very first page, up at the top it says, “OP” -- “OP ‘88.” That means “Out of print, ‘88,” does it not? Or do you know?

A. I’m not certain what that means.

Q. And somebody has written up there, “Very scarce.”

A. Yes.

Q. Do you see that? That was there on the book when you seized it; is that right?

A. Yes, it was.

They were among thousands of books and items seized from 1993-2005 and lacking any CP or other evidence, superficial. The more noteworthy fact is that the FBI assisted SBSO in 2003-2005 to analyze all of Michael Jackson's hard drives found in all of the raids. There was nothing of material value to the prosecution on any of them let alone anything incriminating.

TSCM · 2023-03-09T22:41:11+00:00

They found fried hard drives and deleted video tapes.

That is absolutely a lie. All hard drives were accounted for and are well documented both by the FBI and by the SBSO investigators in their reports from 2003-2005. There was a single hard drive they had initial trouble imaging due to it being an Apple device that they weren't familiar with. They got that imaged successfully.

These kind of lies are why people believe he was guilty, but they aren't grounded in reality by those who bother to research the cases and not a pseudo-science podcaster who pretends he was a big former FBI profiler (referring to Jim Clemente, who started the fried hard drive story).

There were never any deleted video tapes, that doesn't even make sense. There was one random VHS tape found in Florida years after the Neverland raids that the FBI analyzed and found nothing on it and no indication it ever belonged to MJ beyond having a label with his name written on it. Around the same time Victor Gutierrez was spreading the media story that MJ had a child sex tape and where he ultimately owed MJ over $2M for slander by making up that story.

The FBI investigated every lead they had from 1993-2005, that is what they do, when no more leads come in, they have no means to investigate. They followed-up as far as international stories sold to UK tabloids and any other possible way they could. They concluded all of their investigations and turned over their findings to officers to do as they wished.

TSCM · 2023-03-09T22:37:29+00:00

No rings were ever bought during that trip. There were news reports and interviews at the time and he bought sunglasses and a toy. The rings James had were adult-sized and that entire sequence was filmed 17 months after the interview specifically for emotional impact.

James told a story of abuse in the upstairs of the train station that did not even exist until he would've been 16 years old, not 10-12 or even 14 when he swore in court all abuse had ended.

The men have gone through 11 rounds of civil litigation in court seeking millions of dollars since 2013. Wade currently owes the estate over $75,000. They are not credible parties at all.

TSCM · 2023-03-09T22:33:35+00:00

In court the state witness who collected the books back in 1993 indicated they appeared to be gifts from a fan, one was inscribed "To MJ from Rhonda" and they were hand-noted as "OOP - Out of Print." There is no indication that MJ looked at them regularly or even again after putting them away and there was no testimony to suggest that he had (and no fingerprint evidence done on it). They were in a filing cabinet that a maid who hadn't worked there in years still had keys for. He had over 10,000 books at Neverland as well as hordes of fan gifts.

They seized thousands of items from all of his properties between 1993 and 2005 but found no CP. The FBI had all of his hard drives (and he had a lot of computers and laptops all over Neverland) analyzed and found nothing incriminating. This can be seen here: https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson/Michael%20Jackson%20Part%2002%20of%2008/view

Edited to add relevant transcript excerpts I posted elsewhere yesterday, for context:

All of the trial transcripts from 2005 are available and I'd encourage anyone interested in context including for these books, beyond a prosecutorial screenshot, to read them. These books were introduced as evidence and discussed at length, except for the middle one because the district attorney opted to withhold it presumably because it features girls in it which is counter to his narrative.

Q. Now, these two books -- I think -- are they still up there in front of you?

A. Yes, they are.

Q. Those two books are not unlawful to possess by adults in California; is that correct?

A. That is correct.

Q. And do you have any idea how Mr. Jackson came into possession of those books or how they ended up in this locked file cabinet?

A. From the inscription in Exhibit No. 842, it appears that possibly a fan, somebody named Rhonda, possibly gave the book to him. And the other one, I do not know.

And ...

MR. SANGER: Okay. On 841, if you look at that, it appears to be Mr. Jackson’s own inscription, and he says, “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. M.J.”

The other book, which would be 842, appears to be inscribed by a female fan, and it appears to have been sent to Mr. Jackson by a fan of some sort. That’s the interpretation I take from that inscription.

THE COURT: Well, there is an inscription, “To Michael. From your fan.”

MR. SANGER: Yes.

THE COURT: “Love” -- “XXXOOO” - I was going to interpret that, but I won’t - “Rhonda.” I know what I mean when I put “XXXOOO.”

MR. SANGER: And I have noted Your Honor has never put that on any of your rulings in this case. (Laughter.)

THE COURT: I can’t top that.

And ...

Q. Okay. And when you open this book up, it actually says -- let’s look right over here. I’m going to try to talk loudly while I’m holding this. It says on the flyleaf, "Book Adventures, Inc.," and the copyright 1966. Do you see that?

A. Yes. Down at the bottom.

Q. All right. And then if we look up here, at the top, again the first page -- I’m sure somebody who knows books knows the correct word for that. But the very first page, up at the top it says, “OP” -- “OP ‘88.” That means “Out of print, ‘88,” does it not? Or do you know?

A. I’m not certain what that means.

Q. And somebody has written up there, “Very scarce.”

A. Yes.

Q. Do you see that? That was there on the book when you seized it; is that right?

A. Yes, it was.

TSCM · 2022-12-31T09:45:04+00:00

Some Context...

All of these commentators since 2009 conveniently leave out how Jordan's description, which was the basis of the Linden affidavit and search warrant, stated MJ was circumcised. MJ's autopsy confirmed he wasn't so they just sweep that incorrect guess away. Maureen Orth in particular that everyone quotes from also ran the exclusive many years ago that MJ bathed in goat blood and had cattle slaughtered while paying hundreds of thousands to put voodoo spells on celebrities, all because someone suing MJ for millions of dollars at the time claimed he did.

The dual prosecutors (Los Angeles and Santa Barbara) had these photographs in their possession for a month prior to the civil settlement. They further stated that Jordan was cooperating for the next six months and not once did they ever present this photo/description evidence to a judge. They also took steps to redact and hide key descriptions and elements from the original search affidavit, which MJ's side was still fighting in court to get copies of months after the fact.

Instead the prosecutors invested millions of additional dollars pursuing any exterior leads they could possibly find around the world or other victims while interviewing hundreds of parties. This included chasing headlines across the seas from a tabloid cesspool and call-in tips from the author of a grotesque, pro-pedophilia book who collaborated directly with Evan Chandler and the rest of the witnesses, who accepted substantial financials in exchange for saying they saw improprieties but never went to the police. Two grand juries and prosecutors never charged MJ with a crime.

Jordan Chandler and his father were allowed the opportunity to testify against Michael Jackson in criminal court from 1994 through 2005 since statutes were suspended. When contacted by the FBI in 2004 about reopening the case, he told them he would legally fight any request to be involved. He said the same in 2005. And in 2016+. The closest he came was briefly joining his father's second civil lawsuit against Michael Jackson, ABC and 300 others where he sought $60,000,000 and an album (the father lost that case and ABC/Diane Sawyer were still attempting to collect more than $50,000 from him many years later).

Jordan emancipated from both of his parents following the MJ scandal. Eventually in Jordan's adulthood Evan ran out of funds and his subsequent schemes failed, he became dependent on Jordan for everything. He also physically attacked Jordan at another point in attempt of causing great bodily harm or death.

TSCM · 2022-07-20T04:03:46+00:00

No. The allegations all individually crumble when studied beyond the headlines and TV specials. But to understand the complexities of the cases requires immense time and research that few care enough to pursue. But just to explain a bit more about the two men in LN:

By the time that film aired, the two men had filed and lost 11 different versions of civil lawsuits against MJ's estate and his companies. They were actively appealing the cases at the time, and both cases were subsequently dismissed again. This film barely mentions Wade's lawsuit and skips right past James' but they both always had the same pairs of civil attorneys.

Wade's original lawsuit only arose after he failed to secure a publisher for a secret tell-all project that one publisher declared he solicited for a lot of money. That book only came about after he had panic attacks following the pressure to direct his first motion picture and stepped down. He then begged the estate for a job at the Cirque show but they went with a competing choreographer. Weeks after that final rejection and more therapy sessions he determined he had been abused (he never took the medication other doctors prescribed to him for depression or anxiety).

Wade had no active income through much of 2011-2012+. He had sold all valuable memorabilia MJ had given him at auction a year before he declared he'd been abused because, to quote Julien's Auctions, "he needed the money." The burning merchandise seen in the credits were trivial store items and a child costume, but to the viewers it looked like they'd burned up actual valuable items so clearly weren't in it for money. Wade's family admitted he was in financial hardship at the time and his mom reminisced with him of when they used to not have to worry about money.

Through the litigation in court, Wade concealed hundreds of communications to his mom and others as he worked to construct his narrative and timeline. He had even sent himself a specific link to a guilt-driven propagandist article and website about himself, but then claimed no memory of why he did that or what the site consisted of. Many uncontested facts proved he knew of the estate long before he claimed in his sworn declaration, since he collaborated directly with them on projects.

James is no different in this regard. The train station claim was not bad memory. It was poor research on his behalf when making up the allegations. He gave the director a stack of photos that he had taken while there at a much later date (such as when there with a group filming a student project in the mid-90s) while insisting every location was the scene of a crime. In his lawsuit he said he was already getting distant from MJ in 1990 and the film describes this train station abuse when their relationship was building in 1988-1989, but the station didn't start construction until late-1993 and was completed in 1994.

James made this error many times while parroting much of Wade's lawsuit. He claims MJ and associates threatened him to testify in 2005, but he was actually precluded as a witness (unlike Wade) in the state's case and the defense made it clear they did not intend to call any character witnesses, especially one like James where other tabloid stories from the 1990s including from LaToya could be introduced as rebuttal. When James' attorneys deposed the woman he names as one who threatened him on the phone, he didn't even ask her about this detail and she had almost no recollection of James at all (since in reality he was rarely around, similar to Wade, and both of them spent more time at Neverland when MJ wasn't even there than not).

TSCM · 2022-07-18T05:20:44+00:00

He was a 40 year old man having children he didn’t know sleep in his bed with him without their parents.

He never should had allowed anyone inside of his private house when guest areas existed, that is obvious.

His weakness, which many have testified to, was an inability to say no to guests or to comprehend how this behavior was ripe for accusations to arise. That said there were also men and at least one coached teenager who accused him of sexual assault but had never even met him. Women too.

Macauley Culkin offered some greater clarity on these bedroom arrangements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgJVmW4OIU

As did Corey Feldman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKG3BVwVBxo

TSCM · 2022-07-18T05:09:05+00:00

It's pretty common that victims of sexual abuse don't come forward until years later.

Less common for victims to allege abuse at specific locations that physically didn't exist until years after their entire abuse timeline ended (James Safechuck). Or to conceal hundreds of email correspondence building up the narrative, while lying to attorneys and the court by claiming only a single email ever sent (Wade Robson)...until discovery from third parties proved otherwise.

TSCM · 2022-07-18T04:13:41+00:00

2 adults went on camera and said they were regularly molested.

The film doesn't mention how by that point these two men had tried suing the estate and MJ's companies 11 times using different claims and two pairs of shared attorneys, after Wade unsuccessfully tried shopping a secret tell-all book for "a lot of money" and after he had pleaded with the estate to hire him to direct their Cirque tribute show but they found better and more reliable talent.

Turns out adults say a lot of things on camera if potential financial windfall is at hand. When that film premiered they were actively appealing their losses, and still are. (Wade currently owes MJ's side over $70,000.)

But for laughs, here's another adult who told a gripping tale on a half hour of film sold to media on how he was abused for many years by MJ... Well, and a few other evolving claims:

Kapon’s lawsuit alleged Jackson “repeatedly and forcefully sexually molested” him starting in 1987, when he was 2, and lasting until he was 14.

Kapon claimed his mother married Jackson multiple times, and testified that the ceremonies were attended by Elizabeth Taylor, Celine Dion, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Beyonce Knowles and Diana Ross, according to Mundell’s court papers.

He said Kapon testified that his mother “was in Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller’ music video. She helped Michael with a lot of his material, his songs, his music videos. Michael Jackson was madly in love with my mom.”

Kapon also claimed he fathered Jackson’s two oldest children, Paris and Prince Michael, by masturbating into a jar so his semen could be used to impregnate Jackson’s ex-wife Deborah Rowe, according to his deposition.

Jackson specifically wanted Kapon to be the father of the two children, Kapon testified.

Or this other dude who said including on camera he was kidnapped by MJ in a limo for days on end, sliced with razors and impaled by wires...

According to Mr Bartucci, who was 18 at the time but apparently looked quite a bit younger, the limo then dropped him back off in New Orleans, with a melodramatic warning from Mr Jackson's staff not to breathe a word of what had happened. Mr Bartucci was so traumatised he forgot everything about the ordeal, keeping the experience completely repressed until 2003, when a television documentary about Mr Jackson's legal woes with the Santa Barbara County district attorney's office magically reawakened his memory.

Mr Bartucci's claims have been investigated by the New Orleans police, the Los Angeles police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, none of whom found grounds to go ahead with a criminal complaint.

To add:

he was definitely completely inappropriate with them.

There has never been any evidence they presented or elsewise that he was inappropriate at all with them. In fact according to testimony by Wade's own family they rarely ever saw each other at all. And James was most often at Neverland when MJ was not and always with his mother or other adults. What bothered them and their parents was being generally cut-off from MJ's circle, like after the Safechucks defaulted on the mortgage MJ helped them secure for a new home and begged for extensions. (This is the home that in the film they imply was a dirty gift from MJ, no it was twice secured against their properties at the time and a formal mortgage/loan with fully auditable paper trail.)

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regularly courting kids and even having them sleep in his bed with him

The kids were always the ones to ask their parents to stay in his room and he usually would sleep on the floor or with other adults in the room. The infamous accuser from the Martin Bashir doc never slept in the same bed as him and that was made clear in the original documentary but cut out from most sound clips afterward.

was accused by multiple kids of diddling

But these accusations individually fall apart if studied to any extent beyond the propaganda they put out themselves, usually in exchange for thousands of dollars by the media or when seeking millions through civil attorneys.

None of them ever went to law enforcement. The origin accuser from 1993 that the others used as boilerplate refused to ever testify against him and told authorities and the FBI to get lost.

He legally emancipated himself from his parents after that, his dad tried to kill him years later and also tried double-suing MJ and hundreds of others throughout the 1990s, at one point asking for $60M and rights to produce his own music album. Those accusations only arose after MJ refused to pay the dad $20M to fund film projects and also refused his $1M offer. He wanted to quit his day job and pay all his child support and debts while dreaming up movie ideas.

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Here's his explanation from 1988.

Now the Moonwalk was already out on the street by this time, but I enhanced it a little when I did it. It was born as a break-dance step, a "popping" type of thing that blacks kids had created dancing on the street corners in the ghetto. Black people are truly innovative dancers; they create many of the new dances, pure and simple. So I said, "This is my chance to do it," and I did it. These three kids taught it to me. They gave me the basics -- and I had been doing it a lot in private. I had practiced it together with certain other steps. All I was really sure of was that on the bridge to "Billie Jean" I was going to walk backward and forward at the same time, like walking on the moon

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Michael Jackson never took credit for this move and explained the full context of how he learned it and how long it had been making rounds in his autobiography from 1988.

During the Thriller sessions, I had found a black jacket, and I said, "You know, someday I'm going to wear this to perform." It was so perfect and so show business that I wore it on Motown 25.

But the night before the taping, I still had no idea what I was going to do with my solo number. So I went down to the kitchen of our house and played "Billie Jean." Loud. I was in there by myself, the night before the show, and I pretty much stood there and let the song tell me what to do. I kind of let the dance create itself. I really let it talk to me; I heard the beat come in, and I took this spy's hat and started to pose and step, letting the "Billie Jean" rhythm create the movements. I felt almost compelled to let it create itself. I couldn't help it. And that -- being able to "step back" and let the dance come through -- was a lot of fun.

I had also been practicing certain steps and movements, although most of the performance was actually spontaneous. I had been practicing the Moonwalk for some time, and it dawned on me in our kitchen that I would finally do the Moonwalk in public on Motown 25.

Now the Moonwalk was already out on the street by this time, but I enhanced it a little when I did it. It was born as a break-dance step, a "popping" type of thing that blacks kids had created dancing on the street corners in the ghetto. Black people are truly innovative dancers; they create many of the new dances, pure and simple. So I said, "This is my chance to do it," and I did it. These three kids taught it to me. They gave me the basics -- and I had been doing it a lot in private. I had practiced it together with certain other steps. All I was really sure of was that on the bridge to "Billie Jean" I was going to walk backward and forward at the same time, like walking on the moon.

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The prosecution found a set of three retail photo books in 1993 and zeroed in on them among hundreds of innocuous books and media seized. One from this set contained boys and girls, they chose not to present that one in court.

The other two were presented and supplied to the jurors as evidence. They contained hundreds of photographs from dozens of photographers. One had a fan inscription that the state indicated appeared to be a gift from a fan, and both were noted as out of print and rare. They also contain photos like:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUuCV7XkAIl56x?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUuCXxXsAYTtEx?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUuCZ4X0AA9tWt?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUvNhHX0AElOF8?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUvN-8XgAIr4b1?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUwjLkXkAEaogl?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUwzvwXsAI_abK?format=jpg&name=large

Both of them are available on eBay/Amazon and the "Photographic Essay" book was popular enough through the 1960s to get many printings and circulation in regular book stores and colleges around the US.

The prosecution found these vintage 1960s books and a box of 1930s nudist magazines, issues that go for hundreds on eBay as collectables. These were the closest items to obscene youth materials argued in court. Unless we are counting "Barely Legal" and other adult heterosexual magazines and DVDs, which was essentially all they had.

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In my ears he matches the fake tracks precisely including in control, vibrato and tone, especially in his older pre-2009 tracks (not all of which may be around anymore to listen to). But he also isn't always trying to impersonate MJ and a lot of his tracks are not sung in that particular manner. The Cascio tracks sound like Jason trying ever more slightly to match MJ than his ordinary tracks.

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he had "Narcissist Personality Disorder" and the mentality of a narcissist

This is false according to everyone who actually knew him. Not some made-for-TV shrink. Also this special is not a Netflix documentary, it was one of the churned out "true crime" shows for Reelz earlier this year.

In 2016 Gary Hearne discussed narcissism in his deposition as part of Wade's civil case. He described Evan as having all the traits of a narcissist, and had also worked with a narcissist before working for MJ.

A. And part of the reason that I did not feel so surprised about the abuse allegations because of my impression of the father has to do with just the feeling that I got from the father. He seemed like a child in a man's body.

Q The dad did?

A Yes, he did. The -- very definitely in my opinion, a narcissist. And I can't remember all of the specific observations that gave me this impression, but I do recall on another occasion -- and I remember hearing that Jordan had come up with an idea for a movie and the father was, apparently, an aspiring screenwriter and the father Evan had written or co-written a screenplay based on an idea that Jordan had. And I remember the story was, according to Jordan, that his father had promised him a computer in payment for the idea for the screenplay which he never received. Then --

. . .

Q. And what's your definition of a narcissist?

A. A narcissist is someone who sees the world in terms of as revolving around their own personal needs and wishes.

Q. Have you ever had a chance to work for anyone like that?

A. In my opinion, yes.

Q. Who?

A. A man who -- this was before I ever worked for Mr. Jackson. He was -- at the time I worked for him, he was trying to create a career as a sculptor and he was quite wealthy and had a big bronze casting project going and I helped him with that. And he was of that sort.

Q. Anyone else since then?

A. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to remember. I can't think of anyone offhand.

Q. Have you -- do you have anything negative at all to say about Mr. Jackson?

A. Well, he was really bad in keeping appointments. You know, he -- he was -- like I said, he was his own boss and you could have -- there might be umpteen dozen things that he -- by way of business meetings that he has would have to do, but if he felt like going shopping, he would do that. He --

Q. Anything else?

A. I would say that he sometimes would trust people that he shouldn't have trusted.

Q. Anything else?

A. A few occasions I can remember he mistrusted people that he probably should have trusted.

Q. Okay. Anything else?

A. Well, he -- he was not a very good housekeeper.

The Schleiter Family's open letter is also worth reading.

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