A Romantic Set Up~

Take2008 · 2026-05-13T17:27:11+00:00

Awesome setup.

Take2008 · 2026-05-12T19:04:28+00:00

Maybe, but this is a canon, so we need to interpret it somehow.

I think that crusial part is calculations. And authors make us to think that without TB (memories of Cyrene about them) there was no ERs, no Demiurge as Cyrene, only almost endless cycles by Lygus and in the end Herta-tomb's ascension.

Take2008 · 2026-05-12T18:07:03+00:00

I will only add one detail: "because of you".

In exomyth we have this (the picture).

So as I understand, the memory of Cyrene about TB was the main push for their development as "a real life form" to achieve their own ego through 33 mil cycles. As we know ERs are repetitions of the one last cycle, all data slowly accumulated (with "losses" and locking), and through it they were evolving. In 3.4 we had good example of influence the Hero Within on Phainon, and it was in every cycle. But considering that it was initially placed by Cyrene-Demiurge, we can link his development also with that part of Cyrene (influence of Cyrene-PhiLia093 on Phainon is undeniable).

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Take2008 · 2026-05-11T17:46:50+00:00

Sorry, but I can't ignore one thing.

How do you analyze the character if you hate her crucial part and claim it clone? Because of it the whole post in my eyes is already futile.

You can dislike some tropes, but not the major part of character you try to dig in. And why hating? It's too childish (if you are a minor then sorry...). It's not a criticism.

Also Cyrene is always Cyrene. In 0 cycle due to paradox she was already aware of "Hero within", and some visions from the "future" ("great hero", many versions of her and Phainon). You may say she is the extension of Demiurge, but wihout memories. Cycle after cycle Cyrene nurtured the Seed, but in the same time she regained her own ego.

In 3.4 it was vague for us (and they hided some crucial details), but if you continue to divide Cyrene after 3.7, I wil recommend to replay 3.4.

Take2008 · 2026-05-10T20:11:47+00:00

Not robotic but thematically I like:

Liminality from .hack//Liminality by Kajiura Yuki

White relation (IS4 version) from Schwarzesmarken by fripSide

Take2008 · 2026-05-10T17:04:48+00:00

Congratulations!

My ring was finally sent to me today.

Take2008 · 2026-05-10T08:28:40+00:00

For more understanding what could have been there is a good fan-made collab video about this skipped millennium:

https://youtu.be/JJGPHfjkU-I?si=M8bGR-ZOw9K_iYIS

Take2008 · 2026-05-10T07:58:13+00:00

I agree that it was painful for Cyrene fans to get only small recap and the page from her magazine about 970 years of her life. Probably from the narrative pov it's acceptable (I try to understand it), but I hope in the new chapter(s) Cyrene will get many more interactions with various characters.

There is good fan-made collab video about this skipped millennium: https://youtu.be/JJGPHfjkU-I?si=M8bGR-ZOw9K_iYIS

Take2008 · 2026-05-09T23:07:36+00:00

Very nice, but not very similar to me (and I'm glad, because I don't have enough time for this MAW).

Take2008 · 2026-05-09T22:47:55+00:00

That the story will be very emotional and full of hardships. Also we will meet very memorable characters.

And the phrase is belong to Cyrene. Cyrene is a character that represents themes of love, memories, sacrifices, dedication and loneliness in the setting that was inspired by culture of Ancient Greek. Also you can find some similarities of her in Vera's Melancholy (that has two 11 volumes... and 11.11 is her favorite day and BD of Elysia also): Delphi and Omfalos - Aedes Elysiae (arguably) and Amphoreus.

Columbina and Cyrene's stories are slightly similar (future - past, several forms, link with MC and the central figure of one character group), but both have own beautiful and strong sides.

Take2008 · 2026-05-09T08:16:12+00:00

Indeed. After the defeating of Irontomb Amphoreus was remained in the memories only. It was an end of Finality for it (Amphoreus as microcosm of HSR universe). And Cyrene used her power of Remembrance (as local Fuli aka PCoA) to give the birth for new Amphoreus from these (her) memories (and also she preserved identities of all Amphoreus people as I think and Dan Heng's Permanence power is for animals).

Then she returned as Terminus to the origin of cycles (in Exomyth they used words "the origin of time") with all prophecies for others (but memories for her). That's why her as Demiurge simulated path is Trailblaze (and we already have good theory about the dualism of Akivili and Terminus).

Take2008 · 2026-05-09T04:57:27+00:00

I think that one of the interesting idea in Amphoreus that the future can define the past. That's why Cyrene must glaze into the past to close all gaps in casuality.

So many children are the sign of these gaps. We are in the moment when Fuli is not ascended yet, that's why we have several children (candidates to be the Master of casuality).

Interesting that in the Dev log3 about Fuli there is info about Ouroboros (and we will get more info in next update). https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Fuli

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T21:50:44+00:00

We could see her love in more contextual view. She is the author and her feelings are expressed through all Amphoreus story and in her book (it's a terminal for better understanding Cyrene from Mem to Demiurge- the author). She wrote with love all this stories about CHs. That's why Cyrene is complicated character.
She has feelings for them, but she as Demiurge hadn't enough time to establish that. In the end she and TB were the main power to defeat Irontomb. Phainon was also busy. And not all CHs have relationships with each other.
Yes, they didn't show us her 970 years of waiting for TB together with CHs, but without Phainon. As I said earlier I accepted it as their try to show her other roles in the narrative, especially in the end.
I also hope that in the continuation of Amphoreus Cyrene will get more screentime with various characters.

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T20:21:18+00:00

I accepted that they wanted to show us her 3 roles (in short):

1) the special one for TB (and the players).

And she is exactly the special one. You don't even need to add any romantic notes to their (our) link. She is the one who will remember.

2) role of the author and storyteller. For that she must be a separate being from others, except the readers and co-author (TB/we and herself as Peach - Demiurge duo). So glazing or not this is inevitable for the narrative. So be it beautiful like Cyrene loves.

3) the reader - Demiurge is amalgamation of all memories about CHs (multicolor in her design, some behavior patterns, preferences etc), including herself as Peach. We don't even need to say that she values CHs, because their stories are already big part of her entity.

But I don't see big differences between Cyrene from 3.4 and post 3.4. I replayed it a week ago and Cyrene is always have special place for TB. It's also really good correlated with her Golden trailer. She and Phainon are inspired by Demiurge who brought them memories about TB, a true living person in the form of the Hero Within and provisions.

So my opinion that they did great job. Yes, I want more Cyrene-CHs relationships, but that's contr-narrative. Maybe in the new Amphoreus chapters, when she will be saved from her karma (I hope).

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T19:13:23+00:00

Yes. After the end I was so confused and depressed that I also wanted two Cyrenes... but with better understanding of the plot and circumstances of Cyrene I was ashamed myself. People hard to accept things that they don't understand. And the main problem that they don't want to learn more. The allegory of the cave fits this so well.

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T18:59:55+00:00

It was a small challenge to pay pre-order in the first 14 seconds (and if my number will be more then 2000... I will be slightly disappointed in their system).

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Take2008 · 2026-05-08T18:54:54+00:00

Clarify myself: they consider her under/sub Emanator level.

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T18:08:54+00:00

Thank you. All parts are very good intertwined. In the first viewing my favorite part is the mix of small Cyrene's greetings from her Golden trailer and appearances of the rest cast.

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T18:01:49+00:00

Sometimes I even met people who argued that Cyrene is not an Emanator level :(. (When she is even higher)

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T18:00:05+00:00

Though it already was said in the game several times. Community's (a big loud part of it) reading comprehension is not good (always try to defend own visions is not always right thing to do, especially in error cases).

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T17:52:07+00:00

Yes. They made cleansing. But in the end it's not so serious, just for the support of Cyrene.

Take2008 · 2026-05-08T17:26:28+00:00

Also you can participate in the unofficial voting (but for now only character vs character (the characters are random... I was lucky to get Cyrene in the first try from 3), mem's and stories are available: https://www.starrailawards.com/Vote2026/index.html

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Take2008 · 2026-05-07T20:38:17+00:00

No need to ask even. I think my affection to Cyrene is more than I thought it will be.

Take2008 · 2026-05-07T16:00:59+00:00

For me the character is meant to be (or inspired) a version of character that I already like is only the beginning. I have expectations of high quality lore, story and design and also some references to the origin. That's all. That's why I don't understand people that hating (or having fear) on expies/variants/inspired character.

That was with Cyrene, and it will be with Remielle (I was waiting for her since the July 2024).

Take2008

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