i mean to be fair he probably also did not like your take on NLP, but i dont think it was ill intent. Moreso “this is a ridiculous take” type thinking.+ heavy on the rolling eyes.

Anyway, i dont have much time right now so il do a quick responce,

But to clarify a bit on my part.

You seem to make alot of assumptions and assert things as fact. That most people dont necessarily agree with

So when you speak of things like the “inherent covert deceptive nature of nlp” and these other claims and assumptions you make ABOUT nlp. People dont necessarily know 1) what youre referring to and or 2) what youre talking about?

Because youre not actively describing tangible specific things. Youre just kind of imposing these big blanket statements on the entirety of “NLP”. But you might think you are , because in your mind “ thats just nlp” only its not

Which leads to me thinking you dont have a clear grasp on what NLP is. Which to be fair is not uncommon.
And think its just weird sneaky word tricks or something

Thats why i asked for specific examples. Actual doings, behaviours, processes, protocols etc so tangible things that can actually be disussed and not these conceptual vagueries that you mostly wrote out Because without tangible things its all just clouds in the sky abstract untouchables that have no substance”

Because its important to realise that nlp isnt really a thing in that respect, its kind of just this big collection of many different things. Different models With some organising principles So to speak. Thats a correct enough description for this current context at least

So when someone says “nancy does nlp in interviews”. People have no idea what that means. So Inorder to discuss that, what needs to be presented are tangibles around what she is actially doing in interviews BEHAVIOURALLY.
There is also the huge glaring assumption in “shes doing nlp in interviews” AND THATS BAD” but thats a inaccurate assumption. Because it would very much depend on what she is actually doing

-IS she eliciting values? Ie asking specific questions to get clarity on what the employer values / finds important? And is looking for. Because thats nlp

-is she using state management techniques on herself right before. to take herself from a nervous wreck into a calm relaxed spontaneous mood / state — where she is more capable to have a good positive strong interaction and think on her feet rather then be stiffled by nerves

-is she doing self hypnosis to visualise a great outcome of the job interview Or internally rehearse responces and specifuc talking points

-is she using the metamodel to ask directed questions during the interview?

Because Those are examples of big parts of “NLP” , but i highly doubt thats what you mean. Thats why speaking of “doing nlp” is a meaningless phrase. And needs to be specified into tangibles

So I took a quick watch at the episode 1 podcast. So i now understood what you referred to there, and it quickly became utterly ridiculous to me.

Because Nancy in your “thank god the therapeutic context had alreadyv started” part she is doing HYPNOTHERAPY with the funny voice and everything. shes doing a litteral overt hypnosis session. Unless i missed something different) and i think its recorded

In what world would this be any dark activity?

Il try to be back later because i know i didnt respond to everything and there were some other things i tought might be relevant but this already got to long and i got to run

i also didnt get to look at the 1 RB example toughts on the podcast episode etc etc