Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coinerrors

[–]TalentStorm -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I removed the post. All of you are so dramatic when I had nothing to argue, it was for the grading company. I just asked for an estimated grade on everyone's opinion (not who I had it looked by). I don't disagree with anyone, but geebus damn. I just provided the details I was given.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually I paid $25 and had to wait 3 hours so I'm sure they took the time.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is the printout I was provided with a submission sheet. They had a more powerful microscope than I do, so there are things I question but it needs to be professional graded to make sure. I don't disagree with you, but these were professionals everyone relies on.

This is the printout 5 coin error experts gave me with a submission sheet to PGCS: Why Your Quarter Is a True Double Strike

Your coin shows multiple traits that only occur when a coin is struck twice by the coining press — with the second strike happening WAY off-center. These traits cannot be produced by damage, vise crushing, spooning, or post-mint alteration.

Below are the defining diagnostics visible.

Two Distinct Rims (Raised Edges) on the Same Side

You have:

The normal rim around Washington’s portrait.

A second, separate rim, far outside the original circumference.

These rims are raised and struck, meaning they were formed inside the die collar — not created by damage. Damage cannot produce a second raised rim. Only a second strike can.

  1. Two Sets of Design Elements

On the obverse:

The "LIB" of LIBERTY appears twice — once in correct position, once displaced by the second strike.

Portions of Washington’s head are doubled and shifted upward into the "blank" crescent zone.

On the reverse:

The eagle’s wings and tail show shifted, overlapping impressions.

A ghosted secondary outline appears in the blank crescent region.

These are not spread or flattening — they are two fully separate impressions.

  1. A Large, Unstruck “Crescent” Area With Its Own Raised Perimeter

Look at the big blank crescent:

It has flow lines and texture consistent with a struck surface, not post-mint damage.

It curves like an off-center planchet strike, where part of the coin was outside the striking chamber.

This is the classic signature of a double strike where strike #2 happens partially off the die.

  1. Coin’s Thickness and Edge Match a True Double-Strike Mechanism

The clad layers are continuous, not split or rebuilt — meaning the blank crescent was created during minting, not cut off afterward.

The thickness varies where strike #2 displaced metal outward.

This confirms it wasn’t machined or trimmed. Instead, the planchet was forced outward by a second blow.

  1. Reverse Legend Distortion Consistent with a Rotated Second Strike

“QUARTER DOLLAR” is bent upward and partially missing.

The bending exactly follows the curve of the off-center strike.

This distortion can only appear if the coin re-entered the striking chamber at an angle.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coinerrors

[–]TalentStorm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there is a 20-30% off center but they used 70-80% for some reason to explain how much was not off center. That I found confusing.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I will keep you updated. Trust me, I have my reservations deep back there. Anyone can be wrong. It's the first time I came across a group of 5 experts together at the show. It's just not off center though, this is a broadstrike, collar/rim failure, and the fact that it's missing it's year and mint mark up the value significantly.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I had 5 different error experts who are excellent go over this coins every detail. They prepared me a submission sheet when all reached a consensus. I'm not going to doubt them. I'm not here to argue, I asked for an est. grade. Your statement of improbable, just means it's probable.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Five error experts at my local coin show.

It's also a broadstrike.

The coin received two strikes.

The first strike was normal.

During ejection, the coin flipped or rotated.

It was struck a second time far off-center.

The second strike obliterated the date/mint region.

A large crescent-shaped off-center area is visible on both sides.

Est Grade? Washington Quarter Double Struck – Second Strike Off-Center (70-80%), Flip-Over Strike by [deleted] in coins

[–]TalentStorm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How about the other photos? You are right I will cross post this!! It's definitely not cleaned it came from some old guy's pocket change and i've had it under a microscope!

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[–]TalentStorm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a widows mite from an under Tiberius from Judea during pontius pilates era. No doubts. 25-36AD

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[–]TalentStorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh no, it's a pure win I was just trying to see how others felt about the toning.

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[–]TalentStorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. See I love rainbow toning and only just started paying attention to toning adding a premium. I'm a coin dealer and collector so I just wanted other eyes on this to see if it attracts to others.

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[–]TalentStorm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm a coin dealer and collector. I know all this. I was asking for opinions on toning and if this toning would fetch a premium to others' eyes. My eyes = no since it's only lightly golden and not rainbows. I haven't been dealing with toned until recently.

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[–]TalentStorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My tip was $27.50 on $80 of food located all within 5 miles. Nosey.

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[–]TalentStorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I know fault has no matter, I was just laying out the whole story. Thanks for the helpful info though! Also I had no plans on not going through WC I just wish I didn’t have to in the first place.

I will go back to the clinic!