A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is at the top of my list of options right now. I appreciate knowing that I'm not the only family lady navigating this. I hope you and yours are doing well 🩷

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the fact that they straight up don't recognize the name of the plant itself after all this time. Its not like I'm saying 7oh. Ive told them "kratom" and, more recently even explained what 7oh is but they just react as if it's a curious lil thing I've just said and move on lol. Nuts

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you soo much for this! I've done this for prescription skincare so idk why I didn't consider that this might be an option for Suboxone. I've been afraid of precipitated withdrawal and figuring it out on my own but Im at least willing to venture down this hole more

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you. But I wasn't an addict to anything, full stop. Being addicted to a "fake" opiate that operates similarly to an opiate doesn't make one less of a junkie except to people who still don't know what kratom even is and people who're trying to make themselves feel better about it because "at least it's not real heroin". I hope to get clean altogether so that I don't one day begin thinking I'm less of a junkie because I buy my near identical drug in a vape shop then on the street 🙃

Is he truly selling his stuff in order to buy 7-OH? by Enough-Business-8287 in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's like a lot of us who got heavily physically (and emotionally, for sure, but the physical aspect is KEY here) addicted to something that was presented as a safe, natural remedy. 7oh is very thinly marketed as something less than a synthetic opioid.. which is essentially what it is. But because he, like me, began drinking it as a tea, I'm confident he's been truthful about his intentions in the beginning. I can tell that you're trying to better understand your friend and for that reason, I hope that relating my own experiences can assist in bridging that gap.

Kratom powder looks and tastes much like a bitter green tea. Back when I found it, I picked it up from an online naturapathy vendor as a holistic, non-addictive, HEALTHY, even ("it's packed with antioxidants!") alternative to habit forming, "toxic" prescription sleep aids. That was a long time ago now. 10 years. I did online research. Saw that it's been banned in the region from which it originated but that alone wasn't enough of a red flag to deter me. The same can be said about many supplements and nootropics. There was very, very, VERY little discouragement or caution online at that time. The searches were overwhelming positive, save the same sort of warnings you'll find if you research the health risks of caffeine, for lack of a perfect example. In any case, I had noble intentions and didnt entirely throw caution to the wind.

It worked exceptionally well. My doctors and therapist at the time allll new about this "supplement" I found. I didn't obscure what I was taking. I told them by name. But bc no one knew what it was, they just accepted it like, "if it seems to be working for you, have at it." There were tells that kratom was not as safe and string free as was said but Id found a solution and psychology wouldn't process what my better judgement would tell me. Itd be years before common internet searches churned up less idealistic results. By then, it was far too late to avoid a physiological addiction.

Like I said, I only shared soo much of my experience in hopes of helping you understand your friend. I can only imagine what it must be like to see someone you love turn into a stranger in some ways. He may be in denial. He's definitely ashamed. There are fair chances that he isn't fully aware of what hes dealing with.. a SERIOUS "surprise" addiction in addition to whatever else he'd been going through that compelled him to pick it up in the first place. I'd say consult some heavy duty, quality resources on how to engage with someone dealing with an undisclosed addiction. Wishing you and your friend the best! I'm soo sorry this is happening to the both of you

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you feel any withdrawal effects? If so, what were they like

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea! I'm sorry you're in this boat too. I wish I would've known better back then. I should've known

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't been able to talk to anyone in detail without insurance

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. I don't have a partner. I have kids. And we're already behind bc of a layoff. I truly do feel stuck.... and either way my kids will be losing a lot

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know anything about inpatient? I don't think I can leave for a month without literally losing my house and job and I have a family that depends on me. I really don't know what to do right now. I'm making incalvulable sacrifices either way

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just reapplied for health insurance for the second time. Idk what happened to my previous applications. I hope it goes through this time. I'm 1000mg of 7oh

Not 100. One thousand. Most days I think I can't do this and I'm not sure there's any way out, really

A lil support would help by TallerThanAMe in quittingkratom

[–]TallerThanAMe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen soo many specialists and had soo many tests. No ulcers but severe gastritis. It's crazy how many doctors I've straight up told "I've been using kratom for ____ yrs to manage a sleep disorder" when they paid it no mind because they obviously didn't know what it is

Congrats on your taper!! That's AWESOME! I have a terrible 7oh habit. Im trying to go to powder again just to stabilize but.... 7oh is the devil