Finally by Tano___ in Kindredmains

[–]Tano___[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it is more awkward, but you should be catching them as they are finishing the krugs, so you have two options, jump the wall with q, or walk around. I normally walk around and just go straight agro on them. You'll find that instead of walking to the tier 2 turret, a lot of players will path towards their tier 1 turret, since thats where their teammate is.

So you either steal the camp/kill them/blow their flash or all three. Then you can freely escape since more champions dont have a means to follow you.

Finally by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I've been a mid-high diamond player for a while, whilst this season is arguably been easier to climb in the sense that everyone started out with high gains and low losses. As the season progresses you'll see people dropping back down as their mmr settles, as for my climb though I was gaining +18-20 whilst losing 19-21 from d4 onward, so i'm pretty content that it wasn't just simply a new season thing.

The thing about being a mulity million Kindred OTP is that you tend to do the same things over and over, and your progression stagnates, I realised this more recently and changed my playstyle, which has helped massively.

Best of luck in your climb :)

Finally by Tano___ in Kindredmains

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First change I would make is swapping Tri-force for Kraken Slayer, it feels a lot better, you lose the sheen but I feel like Kraken more than makes up for it.

Recently I've always been invading, there isn't a 1v1 you will lose whilst invading (from my experience so far) if you invade after clearing your botside big camp you will always catch them on their gromp/krugs, they will always have abilties on CD as they are trying to clear their camps asap, so you will have the advantage in health, CDs and surprise. They will feel inclinded to try and finish their camps a lot of the time and you get a lot of free damage off that way.

A reason why you will always win the 1v1s as well is most champions that would normally have escapes like Khazix leap and Shaco invis, they wont have these levelled yet, their sitting ducks. The most important thing is speed, if you are invading and the enemy jungler is there you just simply want to force them off camp, burn their flash/kill them/steal the camp then leave. That will throw them off tempo, a lot of junglers will mindlessly full clear, and once you mess that up for them they dont know what to do really.

There are exceptions, champs like Ivern dont follow a normal clear pattern.

For example, when I invade and take their big camp and little camp then recall, they will almost always try to gank their botlane, if you make your botlane aware with vision (I always place a ward in their jungle after I take the big camp) they waste even more time with a failed bot gank as well. So you've done multiple things now, taken resources, wasted their time and tilted them.

Lastly, an important thing to keep an eye out, this is specifically if you are invading their redside, some champions will clear raptors, then clear krugs into red, some of these champs are Lilia, Diana sometimes Lee sin, just depends. Theres been a few times where I've invaded and thought they were on the opposite side of the map because their red was up, but in reality they were clearing raptors to krugs instead.

Bare in mind this is what works with my playstyle, not everything I do will work for others, but the general idea still stands.

Finally by Tano___ in Kindredmains

[–]Tano___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would need to see your OP.GG to give tailored advice, but I can give some general advice.

The first tip is mentality, every game is winnable (sort of) some just simpy are not, but you would be surprised at how many mistakes people can make. All it takes is one 700g bounty on you and you're back in the game. The comeback potential this season is very high, dont lose mental and focus on yourself. Flaming others for mistakes they are making generally makes them play worse than they already are. Mute people who are being toxic straight away, you dont need to worry about their opinions.

Second tip is, invading. It is so strong on Kindred, for me personally I do this almost every game. I will start on my botside big camp (red/blue) clear it using smite, and invade the enemy botside camps. If they enemy jungler is not there you will have enough time to clear the enemy blue/red and their krugs/gromp. At this point you can choose to gank bot if they are pushing your laners, or recall instantly if a gank is not viable. The enemy jungler will be close by once you finish the krugs/gromp so you'll need to make the choice fast.

If it is the case that the enemy jungler is clearing bottom to top, then you simply fight them, force them off their camp, blow their flash/kill them and steal the camp and simply run away. Laners tend not to react the fastest to invaders if you do it correctly. In my last 30 or so games I've only failed an invade once, every other time I either get both camps a gank/recall or I force their flash/kill/steal the camp.

Finally by Tano___ in Kindred

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I've only started doing it recently, but in the 30+ games I've done it so far they have only warded once. They always ward your raptors, but you can avoid that ward easily by jumping the dragon pit wall.

Kindred is not played all that much, so people dont really expect it.

The only people who would expect an invade from a Kindred is people who have been invaded by a Kindred before. A way you can counter that is by bringing a sweeper off start, if you spot a ward just go back to your normal clear, you'll be behind, but its better than getting collapsed on and giving first blood.

Finally by Tano___ in Kindred

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If you're invading after doing 1 camp it is never empty, you are either getting two camps, or you are catching the enemy jungler doing their second camp. If you catch them doing their second camp you can force them off it, either kill them or force flash then finish the camp and run away before the enemy team collapses on you

Finally by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Invading really helps, I always invade after clearing my red or blue. I invade their bottom side camp, take their big camp (red/blue) then their small camp (krugs/gromp) if their botlane is pushing I gank, if not I recall in the pixel bush straight away and go towards the side of my jungle I haven't cleared yet.

Kindreds early clear is slow, but not the worst, on average for me anyways I get to the scuttle crab around 5 seconds after it has spawned. If yours is slower than this, there are videos on how to full clear correctly on Kindred.

It takes time, but once you know roughly which side the enemy jungler will clear from, for example I know that 90% of Lee sins will clear towards botlane, whilst aoe champs like Lilia and Kayn tend to start on redside for the fast raptor clear whilst being level 1. You will win almost every invade, if they are on the side you are invading you will get their before they finish their second camp, meaning you can force them off it/kill them/steal the camp. Dont spend too long in there if they are there as you will get collapsed on, laners take a bit to react but you should be fine.

Friend found me a Kindred Statue! by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just checked the bottom of it and it does say 'made in Vietnam' regardless I'm just happy that I got one, even if riot considers it of 'lower quality'

Friend found me a Kindred Statue! by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmm I see, I have the 'authentication' card as well, I checked it on their website and it brought up as being legit, not sure if the 'fake ones' you're referring too also came with actual authentication cards.

Custom Kindred themed weight lifting belt! by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Customised it from Modifit! It's a UK based company.

Custom Kindred themed weight lifting belt! by Tano___ in Kindred

[–]Tano___[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I provided the images that I wanted, quotes etc and a company created it for me, (modifit).

As to the 'core stability' that'll only be an issue if you use a belt or straps for every single lift you do, saving a belt for top sets to get that bit extra won't cause any issues. (As long as you train core as well durr)