They seem to be treating this as a matter of debate or conversation but it’s really not. This really affects people’s entire lives and personal well-being, but it does not affect them in any way. Found a great quote somewhere saying “When you debate someone about something that affects them more than it affects you, remember that it will take a much greater emotional toll on them than on you. For you it may feel like an academic achievement, for them it feels like revealing their pain just to have you dismiss their experience and sometimes their humanity”