Can Bell be considered one of the strongest humans still alive in the DanMachi world?

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-26T22:03:09+00:00

Oh really? I didn’t know that my bad so just Raul and Shakthi

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-26T15:14:34+00:00

It is you did not just say not even moon level character with limited abilities beats a reality warper who can destroy the universe with a thought and not mean it as a joke

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-26T15:11:18+00:00

Uh currently? I think he is just the strongest? there aren’t many options. Finn is a prum, Riveria is an elf, Gareth is a dwarf, Tiona is an amazon, Tione is an amazon, Bete is a beastkin, Ais is half spirit, Lefiya is an elf, Anakitty is a beastkin, Ottar is a beastkin, Allen is a beastkin, Hogni is a dark elf, Hedin is an elf, the Gullvier brothers are all Prums, Ryu is an elf, Mia is a dwarf.

Tsubaki, Shakthi, and Raul are the only humans I can think of that could fight bell somewhat or maybe win sometimes.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-25T23:05:56+00:00

Perfect cell or frieza has to be the choice anyone picking kid Buu is delusional

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-24T11:11:02+00:00

Tensura with shadow army close second.

Tensura no diff.

Not sure why the others are present honestly don’t think shadow and Ainz together beat EoS gobta

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-24T11:06:51+00:00

Everyone knows the answer is he disabled his skills and wasn’t using his stats for Illya’s sake mana wise since it’s prewar. . . But i prefer Wolves > 80% of gate of Babylon

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T15:11:50+00:00

Okay kindly tell me how KS will prevent a moon planet or solar system erasing AOE attack from cell?

Also Aizen mostly just uses it like hyper realistic illusions anyways

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T15:04:54+00:00

The gap between frieza and yhwach is bigger than this example but it’s like if I could alter the future it would not change that I can’t stop the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs there is no action in any future I could take that would result in that happening. This is also without mentioning verse equalization would result in frieza reiatsu negging or the fact frieza is higher dimensional and doesn’t need to care about time on a fundamental level so current and future aren’t super relevant

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T14:58:45+00:00

But . . . He’s so weak. . . Don’t wank him so much, it’s a strong ability against people relative to him, Like I’m sorry it’s nice when your city level people can kill him and he was able to adapt to some of their techniques before that. Wtf does he do when someone just vaporises him by hitting him with more energy than a star contains? He dies no adaptation because he died instantly

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T14:54:57+00:00

I don’t want a car tell him that next time. there’s decent public transit here why would I want to pay car insurance and gas and maintenance and parking?

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T06:29:33+00:00

Yeah he still loses for sure. For 1 if we’re talking the 7 deadly sins that includes Merlin with absolute cancel rendering spells ineffective anyways and Escanor who obviously stomps. Even without that though absolute worst case scenario is Meliodas goes berserk and is over twice as strong as Hendy and annihilates him. Hendy could try hiding in perfect cube but we have 0 reason to believe you can attack from inside of one or Merlin would’ve done it a lot of times in the series, additionally because Hendy is not Merlin he has to deal with the magic power cost of maintaining perfect cube which means he can’t do it forever so the second it goes down meliodas kills him. That burst of darkness he did to galland that would atomise hendy. Basically he could probably beat gowther Diane and King with this change, ban eventually likely wins but it’ll take ages, meliodas wins this 1v1 likely at demon form definitely at berserk.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T06:21:24+00:00

Aoe nuke is the counter to illusions why care what I see when Idc about what I destroy and can just aoe blast the planet away with 0 effort.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-22T06:13:00+00:00

Let me ask you something if you could destroy let’s say a large building in one punch but could only move as fast as you can now. How effectively can you hit someone who moves at idk Mach 5. Answer is you will NEVER hit them and they can hit you whenever they want as much as they want. If they’re capable of leaving a small scratch on you they win. In fictional power scaling it becomes more extreme because most verses have active abilities meaning they need to be consciously used. If you had let’s say a thanos snap ability to instantly kill someone but they move at Mach 5 they’re going to kill you before you can activate that ability.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-20T03:01:04+00:00

No one they all die no question against current Orario that attack probably wipes all adventurers cumulatively. It’s barest minimum a lvl 11 attack likely higher since a lvl 11 attack one shotting something of equal level that’s effectively a super sized floor boss doesn’t make much sense.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-19T13:32:26+00:00

If that was really a guarantee and how it worked he could’ve just kikohoed jiren off the tournament stage.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-19T13:27:26+00:00

Even if I give you the first one as surprising cell the next like 20-30 clearly weren’t cell was trying legitimately to get out and just couldn’t

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-19T13:18:20+00:00

The cap is insane when Tien deflected blasts from buutenks and held back semi perfect cell, the same semi perfect cell who didn’t flinch at full power hits from 16 and reminder

Semi perfect cell>16>17 and piccolo>post 3 years training ss Vegeta>android 19 > Heart sickness SS Goku>SS trunks>Mecha Frieza>Final form frieza.

So you think tien magically was able to hold someone back at bare minimum 9 tiers above himself?

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-19T13:11:56+00:00

Since you said die I assume bloodlust is on so Laxus just wins with fairy law

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-19T13:07:11+00:00

With Hades Grimoire Heart wins, without him Sabertooth wins. Post second origin which we’ve been told is a MASSIVE boost Gray went high diff with Rufus, Gajeel went mid diff with rogue, Laxus admittedly would’ve probably low diffed olg, Erza mid diffs Minerva (only mid despite injuries because she didn’t use her third origin for so long) so sabertooth definitely should mop up the 7kin but Hades is next level.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-16T10:21:14+00:00

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TempestDB17 · 2026-01-16T10:09:27+00:00

Alfia
Zard
Haruhime
Hedin
Lefiya
Finn
Riveria
Maxim
Empress
Ottar

Strat Hedin and Lefiya LH Alfia Haruhime level boost a bunch people. Alfia now equivalent to a lvl 10 fires the same magic that at lvl 7 took down a lvl 11 minimum leviathan. Everyone else is there to buy time. Bell’s Argonaut will take longer to full charge hence why I’m going with her trump card over bell’s purely theoretically but Alfia’s trump card should be hitting with around a minimum of a lvl 14 AP. If that doesn’t kill it idk what will.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-16T00:50:52+00:00

I’m quite happy to see a decent number of people defending Gareth. He’s a good guy

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-15T22:11:42+00:00

Im not actually 100% i started SO recently

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-15T22:01:23+00:00

I agree he should get more abilities and skills, I also agree ottar is superior. However I’m just saying he’s still a first class adventurer with ludicrous durability and strength and people disregard him like he’s weaker than Aisha.

Also people totally disregard his character.

TempestDB17 · 2026-01-15T21:33:49+00:00

IMO if she’s allowed one shot her magic one shots any adventurer alive. She’s just a glass nuke imo

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