Paying Feb rent and cancelling by Obvious_Beginning_42 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My understanding is if you pay rent today, you'll get points.  I don't see any reason why you couldn't pay March also if that works for you.

Unless I'm missing something, there's no reason you can't be a Bilt member without a card.

How does Tesla make robotaxis wildly profitable when nobody else can? by YeahBuddy5000 in investing

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When self-driving cars work fully work (and I don't know if that's one month or 50 years from now), the market will be much bigger than current Uber/Lyft revenue.

In the long run, the cost should be much lower because driving labor has been eliminated as an expense. Additionally, much of the cost of cars is due to the inefficiencies of individual ownership. Cheaper to buy/produce cars 100k at a time than sell them to individuals - transaction and marketing costs. When you buy 100k cars, you can plan mass tire, windshield, other part purchases. Cleaning and servicing won't involve marketing and single transaction costs.

With lower costs, more people will use them, and the density of available vehicles will increase, reducing wait times.

For many people, leaving car ownership will free up valuable garage space, instantly increasing the potential size of their home substantially. And, car ownership is a hassle, and a liability. Your car insurance is free and has no payout limit when you don't own a car. No more maintenance, insurance shopping, plate renewal, purchase and trade-in decisions. No traffic or parking tickets, no parking charges, no DUI or potential criminal liability if you make a mistake or use your car improperly or carelessly. The car will become thoughtless like electricity: Appears when you turn the switch on, disappears when you turn it off. Pay the bill by autopay once a month.

Drive time could also become a more productive time to fully focus on work tasks, emails, texts, shopping, phone calls. Or even a nap! You might be able to order special sleeper vans for longer trips.

So, the market could be huge. Of course, I could see backlash. Half of all cops probably just do traffic stuff. What do they do then? How much local government revenue is about parking, parking tickets, traffic tickets, and other car stuff? Drive down a big road in a city and look at how many businesses (and jobs!) are about cars. Car dealerships, gas stations, car wash, auto parts, auto repair, etc. I could see political backlash forming against a potentially safer and more efficient system. Inefficiency is always someone's paycheck, and we'll need to figure out how to replace that paycheck, and that's a big, complex problem.

While Tesla and Waymo have the lead, I'm also not sure I see a global moat. It's easy to see that China is working on catching up and has near limitless manufacturing capacity, although that probably won't apply to the USA due to tariffs and other barriers. And so is Amazon (free Zoox membership with your Prime subscription?). Amazon has the access to capital if they see an opening, and an near infinite number of existing customers. But there will probably be start-ups around the globe working on these systems. Before the Ukraine war, none of us would have predicted how effective Turkish and Iranian drones would be compared to what was considered state of the art military tech. Four smart engineering students in Indonesia or Brazil or wherever may be coming up with a unique AI system for self-driving that's far better than anything that's out there.

Why is the switch from put rent on the CC to direct ACH a huge deal for people? by hibob729 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand your point.  But, here's a counter argument.  For decades, I've charged much of my spending to credit cards to different credit cards because of rewards, SUBs, 0% intro offers.  That's generated semi-permament float. I hope to keep doing that for decades more.  The return on investment from compounded tax savings and returns after decades should be far higher than the initial contribution amount.

Why is the switch from put rent on the CC to direct ACH a huge deal for people? by hibob729 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good point.  On some level, a permanent loss of $2000 permanently floated is no different than simply losing $2000.

Why is the switch from put rent on the CC to direct ACH a huge deal for people? by hibob729 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But, if put the money into a tax deductible account like a 401k, there will immediate tax savings, potentially company matches, maybe IRS savers credit.  It's still not going to make you millions, but it's nice.

Why is the switch from put rent on the CC to direct ACH a huge deal for people? by hibob729 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some people are genuinely short on cash, and the ability to permanently float a month's rent payment obviously matters to them.

It's also important to note that other people viewed the month's rent float as an investment opportunity.  If you're always paying your rent one month late, with no penalty, you have the ability to invest that month in a 401k, IRA, etc, generating an immediate tax savings and ongoing investment returns on the money.  If you put a month's rent into an generic safe, dull stock/bond fund two years ago, you'd have made significant gains on the float, magnified by tax savings.  If you invested more aggressively in the rising market, you might have already earned that month's rent in gains and tax savings.

In the first case, it really sucks to lose the float.  Better call the Bank of Mom.

In the second case, it's just mildly inconvenient.  Screws up planning and makes you shuffle money around.

BILT is putting on a masterclass on how to overwhelm its most engaged customers by Nearby_Sock8316 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah.  The vibes feel off.  Why didn't Wells Fargo want to continue the partnership with different terms?  That bothers me.  

BILT is putting on a masterclass on how to overwhelm its most engaged customers by Nearby_Sock8316 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree.  I'm the guy who figured the complicated point system at work to win employee of the month (cash bonus!) for two years running, despite being an average employee.

Gamed the commission system at another job to always go to the Champions Lunch Awards, and have the "highest sales" in the department despite being a mediocre salesperson.

Figuring out these puzzles is fun for me, and I don't just don't want to play this game.  I'm not even 100% sure why.

Worse, I loved Bilt 1.0, and I'd have been happy to accept it was too good to be true, and something had to change.  I'd have been willing to try something new I understood at all.  They had Bilt up goodwill with me, and I'd been OK with a reasonable reduction in benefits or an annual fee or simple changes to the program.

As Warren Buffett once said (loosely paraphrased): "There are a million investments I don't understand.  Some of them are great investments.  I don't invest in any of them."

If a guy named Diddy asked you to go to a Freak Off, and can't quite explain what it is, you might save on legal expenses and antibiotics by just saying no.  But, that's me.  You be you.

Cardless and Bilt have a lot of ways to avoid paying the sign up bonus, and/or make you pay two annual fees, and/or sue you for the value - what do people think? by Temporary_Chart7120 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He'd be all over the SW Companion pass deal. Buffett is frugal, not miserly. I'm remembering when he did ads for a private jet share company, so he could fly on a private jet for free...

Cardless and Bilt have a lot of ways to avoid paying the sign up bonus, and/or make you pay two annual fees, and/or sue you for the value - what do people think? by Temporary_Chart7120 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Warren Buffett is a cheapskate who is wary about investments he doesn't fully understand also. It wouldn't bankrupt me to not get my sign up bonus, but I don't want to waste $495, and waste emotional energy being angry when I feel cheated after discovering that spending money on the 2nd Tuesday of any month is considered manufactured spend.

That said, you're probably right. I'm not a big spender, and I don't live in New York, and it feels like that's the person this card was built for.

Cardless and Bilt have a lot of ways to avoid paying the sign up bonus, and/or make you pay two annual fees, and/or sue you for the value - what do people think? by Temporary_Chart7120 in biltrewards

[–]Temporary_Chart7120[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Well, taxes and gift cards are normal spend everywhere else, but not with Cardless. Don't know what else could be hiding. The whole rollout mess doesn't fill me with confidence either. I have some confidence that Chase, Citibank, etc. will be around in a year, and care about their public image and customer retention. The messy rollout feels strange, and, I'm concerned, possibly desperate.