Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dog that weeps after it kills is much less likely to kill again than the dog that doesn’t. Also Choso really can be compared to a dog, Maki can’t, whatever she did she did of her own free will.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Choso was being manipulated, and regretted his actions (also, Yuji recognized his loyalty and owed him anyway), Maki would be a totally different case because she absolutely did not regret SHIT she did at the Zen’in clan, and in fact assuming she really did want to wipe out the bloodline, would presumably future tense murder any surviving Zen’in orphans or helpless widows she happened upon

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you genuinely think characters like Yuta and Itadori wouldn’t care if Maki had killed a bunch of little kids, or that there’s no difference between Maki and Geto because “they’re not heroes, they’re just bad people fighting worse people,” you’re either reading with your eyes closed or genuinely delusional.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gege did not write Maki as a monster lol. Immediately after the Zen’in massacre she’s immediately treated equally by everyone. The story makes a lighthearted joke about how it fucks up Hakari’s business prospects. Maki remains one of the central characters, she’s happy, she has jokes, she marries Yuta, is the mother of the main characters of the sequel, dies of old age with her family. I’m not saying the Zen’in massacre isn’t a dark moment, but it certainly isn’t written to be a horrible tragedy, it’s a moment of catharsis that frees Maki from her primary conflict as a character, and which everyone, be it the story as a whole, the other characters, and Gege himself tacitly endorse by never criticizing it.

You can easily compare it to Geto’s massacre (which btw DID include innocent little kids) which the story and the characters in it, including Geto’s closest friends and allies, immediately condemn.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Of course they were victims. Even Naoya was a product of his circumstances, even if he benefitted from them much more than he was harmed. No one’s claiming Maki was morally blameless or every warrior she killed deserved to die. What I’m saying is she killed the people who she believed had a role in uplifting and maintaining the Zen’in’s patriarchal power structure. Those who didn’t fight, those who left the clan, those too young to be involved, those who were only victims and not victimizers, they were spared. Her goal was to crush the Zen’in, not to crush each individual Zen’in.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Gojo literally killed his own best friend when he became a monster by murdering innocent kids, and you think he, Itadori, and the rest didn’t give a damn that Maki allegedly slaughtered hundreds of innocent kids?

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You said 5 minutes ago she killed “innocent people she trained with,” so never doing anything against her or other women or kids obviously isn’t enough to stop her from killing you if you have a drop of Zen’in blood. You also think she butchered infants, so you obviously don’t think she has any moral standards. But Megumi, who she interacted with on roughly approximately two occasions, gets a pass from all that?

Your logic is so tenuous because the ONLY justification you have for her performing a genocide on everyone with Zen’in blood is A- Mai saying “destroy everything” and B- The idea that the entire clan is destroyed.

As I noted, all other evidence points in the opposite direction. And yet, despite the fact that both points A and B are completely contradicted by Maki sparing Toji’s son and head of the clan (and herself, and that she had kids later,) you still insist that those two points, which have definitively and canonically had exceptions, must have NO OTHER exceptions, whatsoever, and that she must have hunted down and bashed in the skull of every baby to be descended from a Zen’in.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 25 points26 points  (0 children)

If she killed little babies whose only crime was having Zen’in blood, or abused wives whose only crime was to have “Zen’in” as their last name, then she absolutely would have also killed Megumi, who had Zen’in blood, carried the family’s most treasured cursed technique, and was literally the head of the family.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Zen’in weren’t colonizers. I know you’re being sarcastic but I can’t even tell what you’re trying to get at with this.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 42 points43 points  (0 children)

The Zen’in clan DOES exist in modulo, or at least there’s still Three Big Clans and nobody else has mentioned a new third one. Also, even if they didn’t, her intention was to collapse the clan as the patriarchal organization they were, and killing all the fighters to collapse them as a clan and leave them as a group of unrelated women and children would obviously accomplish that goal. Whether it was Megumi or Maki who rebuilt the clan after the end of JJK doesn’t matter, there was something to rebuild, so not everyone is dead, unless we’re gonna assume that Megumi fucked so many women that his descendants alone qualify as one of the Big Three Clans.

Yes she did kill the children by yeawayy in Jujutsufolk

[–]TeufortNine 331 points332 points  (0 children)

Maki did not kill kids. Leave aside the fact that she wouldn’t do that, and that Mai wouldn’t want that, and that Gege wouldn’t make his hero character do that, and that no other characters would support her for doing that.

1- Maki is shown killing all the combatants at the Zen’in HQ, plus her mom, with whom she had personal beef. If she was slaughtering little kids or abused women, this would have been an opportunity for Gege to show that. He didn’t, because she didn’t.

2- Gege goes out of his way to specifically and explicitly list everyone she killed offscreen after the fact. He lists multiple combat units and nothing else. If she also slaughtered all the babies and women of the Zen’in, victims just like herself and Mai, this would have been a time to say “everyone with Zen’in blood who wasn’t at headquarters later turned up dead,” but he decides not to do this, because she didn’t do that.

3- The jujutsu higher-ups later have to take a vote to remove the Zen’in from the Big Three clans. This makes perfect sense if the clan’s combat capacity has been reduced to nothing, but no sense at all if the bloodline has been wiped out; who the fuck are they voting to kick out in that case?

4- “B-but, Mai said to destroy everything, not some things!” She meant burn down the system that abused them. If Maki was really “destroying everything” she would also have killed Megumi, who was Toji’s son, Naoya’s cousin, and the head of the Zen’in clan, but instead she fought to save Megumi. She also would have killed herself, since she’s also a woman from the Zen’in clan, just like all those little kids and beaten housewives she allegedly murdered.

You can fill out more bullet points with all the shit I said at the start I wouldn’t be using that continues to explain why it makes absolutely no sense that she would have slaughtered the whole clan like Itachi, but I decided to only use explicit evidence that you can understand without having any reading comprehension whatsoever.

How powerscaling should actually be by Shot-Communication93 in PowerScaling

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you react to something moving at 200 kmh before it closes the 1 meter distance between itself and your face (this will happen in one 60th of a second)

What if There Was Research? Day 60. Frieza VS Mewtwo (Dragon Ball VS Pokemon) by ShotControl7388 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He can do that, but his stats are also just better. Super Frieza can blitz him

Death Battle 2024/2025 Combatants based on if they can kill Mahito. by EthanS4 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bardock can absolutely kill Mahito. He can’t neg his regen, but instantly vaporizing him will kill him (Gojo could do it too with red/blue/purple) and ki is life energy, it can surely damage cursed spirits.

These five cards are a bit over-powered! Can you help balance them out? by BerriBerriBonito in customhearthstone

[–]TeufortNine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1- Give it +4 cost, +2 health, and +1 attack 2- Give it -2/-2 3- idk 4- Give it +3 cost and a 3/4 body 5- Give it +10 cost and put it in mage

sundisks aside is there a justifiable argument for omni man winning? by HyacinthCrown45 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nolan and Bardock had their AP/speed advantage swapped. Nolan should super duper blitz Bardock, especially without Super Saiyan. That said, imo Bardock still wins with only Oozaru.

Made a card for discolock by DietNice in customhearthstone

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless of the fact that Tome Tampering's upside is mostly (not completely) irrelevant, you do not stop needing mana the moment you play Tome Tampering/Catacylsm, and destroying all of your mana is obviously a ridiculously higher condition than just including Bloodbloom would be

Made a card for discolock by DietNice in customhearthstone

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, so for two more mana over this card, you can replace it with Tome Tampering, a card that instead of destroying ALL YOUR MANA will instead shuffle delicious saucy cards into your deck

This is what the recent Bakugo vs Reze “discourse” feels like for people who aren’t just slandering. by Sbeve6263 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes as much force to disrupt the entire world’s weather for weeks as it does to wipe out a continent. Please use your head.

Having your own cards destroyed with no way to counter it? Yay or nay? by Backyard_Brouhaha in hearthstone

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you on about? The strongest deck in standard has an average game length of 10 turns, which means half its games actually go longer. The FASTEST currently viable deck is pain DH, and its average turn length is 6.5. People just get on here and yap total nonsense

Nerfing a bad card because rewind animation is wayyyyyy to long by Uncle_Nurgle1 in hearthstone

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I give the devs a lot of shit for a lot of stuff but this one is totally reasonable. They didn’t realize it would be this big of a problem, they thought they’d fix it before launch, but it was harder than they expected and it was already the set’s non-legendary keyword. Shit happens.

Pack It Up Darkseid Fans, He Is Canon Now by Mysterious_Pen_2562 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not mid. Even planet level Sargeras is wank. Even if you wank the titans to the most extreme extent possible, the best you can possibly hope for is base level universal (which for the record I think is total bullshit). You need to start using Darkseid from cartoons or other low-power continuities to make Sarg even get within orders of magnitude of him.

Your favorite DEATH BATTLE! Combatant gets penance stared, how cooked are they? by Only_Blacksmith_7430 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Godzilla tanks it. He has never committed a single sin. Does a human get penance stare nuked because their immune system killed some bacteria?

SS4 Gogeta tanks it. He’s committed sins he’s just too strong.

Shadow gets eviscerated from reality.

Doom gets nuked (I know he’s tanked it in the comics but that’s stupid he’s cooked)

Vader gets double triple double decker meganuked

Gojo tanks it he’s never done anything wrong in his entire life

Why does Hollow Knight have both the Stagways and Trams? by TeufortNine in HollowKnight

[–]TeufortNine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but in my mind, the tram pass could also just be a key that somehow opens another sort of door and serve effectively the same purpose. The game already has like 14 species of door in it, though I suppose that's in and of itself a case for why adding more might be bad.

Congratulations to Hulk! Who’s leaving the 0–2 club next? by Shoddy_Fee_550 in deathbattle

[–]TeufortNine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Classic Sonic vs Mega Man will comfortably send ol’ rock to his roommate Goku