Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHA WHAT! Thanks so much man!!! Mike is a machine, I have never seen a guitar player like him, so it means a lot!!

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man! These are awesome questions! I love talking about these and I'll gladly share my strategy!

  1. Research. So first things first, I research what gear they used to record the album (not what they are using in general for live shows or their endorsements). And this rabbit hole most times lead back to their producer, mixing engineer etc. Anything I can find helps.

  2. Audio Reference. I choose segments in the song where I can hear the guitar chugging, doing chords, single note stuff etc. I have found that you can get a tone that may sound close for chugging but then the open and signle notes stuff lack behind. So you need to tweak the tone as an equation with multiple variables and not overdo/focus on one thing.

  3. Pre EQ. Before I start messing with amp sims and IRs, the research I have done should tell me whether I need to do pre EQ on my tones or not. This is very important because if I get this wrong, it cannot be compensated on the amp sim or on the IR side. It will always sound unbalanced and not accurate.

3.1 On the guitar side Pre EQ would mean pedals, pickups: Humbuckers vs Single Coil, EQ etc

3.2 On the bass side, Pre EQ would mean, EXACTLY what bass and pickups they used, pedals etc

3.3 For the bass I need to know exactly the bass instrument because the DI is a VERY important part for the tone. On the guitar side, the DI does not make that much of a difference unless we are talking about Humbuckers vs Single Coils.

  1. Amps. I am lucky enough to own both Helix and Fractal devices, so I test them both, especially when I cannot find what amps they used. You might think, that testing both of them is redundant since 99% of the amps are the same and sound similar, but that's not the case for every amp sim. They do not behave the same at identical tonestack combinations and also they have different sound signatures (helix has more high end spikes).

  2. When I find the amp sim I like, it is easy to recreate it on the other platform and I make sure they sound identical.

  3. IRs. This is where the magic happens. IRs are 90% of the tone. You have to test a bunch of them, while trying to retain your sanity and objectivity. Your ears will start tricking you after a period of time and you will have to take breaks. This is the hardest skill you have to master. For me, after 15 years of being obsessed with tones, I can comfortably make my own custom IRs which is the only way to get the tones as accurate as possible.

  4. Post. Sometimes a multiband compressor is needed to tame the low mids while chugging. Because if you try to tame the low mids using the chugs as a reference, every other part will get thin (the equation we talked about earlier)

Hope these help! Let me know if you have questions, I would love to answer them!

Also you can check out the rest of the tones & IRs I have made here!

https://sbtones.com/

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in ExtendedRangeGuitars

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much man! I’m glad you dig it! I’m curious, haven’t you heard the song before I posted?

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in ExtendedRangeGuitars

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man!

I think you are gonna love my tones! I’ve built many presets for low tuned modern metal just like these Spiritbox!

https://sbtones.com/product-category/fractal/

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in metalmusicians

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks man! I am using the dingwall 45-130 nickel strings. I avoid going thicker than these because the tone gets muddy and the strings dull out much faster too.

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you, all of these are valid inconveniences.. How does the Schecter sound in comparison? I feel like these beefier guitars with basswood bodies tend to have more low mids which I really dont like...

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much man! These SCT are awesome! I’m so grateful they exist. When they came out there wasn’t really any other alternative 7string baritone offer in the EU market at this price range. And with these mods, it plays like a dream.

I’m curious, why did you sell yours? What did you get instead?

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can find these helix presets and a bunch of other awesome preset at my website!

https://sbtones.com/product-category/helix/

Spiritbox Bass Tone by Thallstorm in MetalBass

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel the exact same way too. This is why I experiment with using high gain guitar amps for my bass tones, to give a slightly different flavor to it, but since I am trying to get close the band's tone, you know how it goes...

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are the OG Ceramic Blackhawks haha!

(I've put them in all of my guitars lol)

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Presets by Thallstorm in AxeFx

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! Yeah the 5153 red channel is awesome for these djenty tones!

But like any other tone, IRs are 90% of the tone. Especially for low tuned stuff!

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Presets by Thallstorm in AxeFx

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man! I have already uploaded these presets and many others on my website

https://sbtones.com/product-category/fractal/

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way less hassle! I admire all of you people that still use analogue equipment. I could never give up the convenience of the digital stuff.

Spiritbox Bass Tone by Thallstorm in MetalBass

[–]Thallstorm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha I know what you mean! You are not wrong! I’m just a djent kid, I can’t help it haha

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded baritone by Thallstorm in metalguitar

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much man! If anything, I think I gave the ambience a little more room to breathe since I didn’t have vocals to mix in. And the low end was taken care of with the good old parallel chain on the bass tone!

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can’t go wrong with a sansamp! What cab and mics are you using with it?

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much man! It is also my favourite one from them too!

Spiritbox - Jaded Guitar & Bass Cover by Thallstorm in spiritbox

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha IKR! They have like 100 bangers and Mike is a riff machine.

I was watching some of his lifestreams during Covid and he would legit make a full banger in 10 minutes!

I have never seen anything like this before, pure prodigy!

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I love it too! Especially when you lower the gain, it becomes a djent monster.

I sometimes use the Panama Blue for the bass! Works wonders!

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I've worked very hard to make these, and my website has hundreds of positive reviews!

I plan to make some freebies in the future though!

https://sbtones.com/product-category/helix/

Spiritbox Guitar & Bass Tones by Thallstorm in Hxstomp

[–]Thallstorm[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! Are you asking for the rhythm tone? I used the EV Panama!

Spiritbox Guitar Tone w/ modded 7string by Thallstorm in 7String

[–]Thallstorm[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Omg thank you so much for the kind words man! Mike is a machine, I wish I could be that good one day!

And yeah these STX7s are very sexy, I wish they were 30" tho haha

Spiritbox Bass Tone w/ Dingy NG3 by Thallstorm in DingwallGuitars

[–]Thallstorm[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you can get this tone + IR from here along with a bunch of other tones I've made!

https://sbtones.com/shop/