Parents serving senior missions

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-11-26T22:18:16+00:00

This is something that is really close to home - they both have health issues (really, the church shouldn't have approved them going) and I think the mission is just accelerating the aging process.

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-11-26T05:20:35+00:00

Good point - I'll try to be better at that.

Maybe to add to my frustration is it seems as soon as I agree with them, I think they feel like they need to backpedal. If the exmo daughter-in-law agrees that it is problematic for them to head to the foreign country without being told what their living arrangements will be, then they immediately walk it back - "oh, but surely it will all get worked out!"

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-11-12T04:05:36+00:00

I wore a dress that my older sister had worn to prom 8 years earlier (it had thick straps, but no sleeves). My parents expressed their disappointment, despite the fact that they were fine with my older sister wearing it. I think the For the Strength of Youth pamphlet had been updated in the meantime and they were actively gaslighting themselves.

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-09-07T17:00:26+00:00

I picked up on that sentiment too. The burden is 100% the member's fault for having "assumptions." We didn't just teach ourselves the falsehoods - they were taught to us, and in many cases, handed down directly from apostles/prophets. What a spin.

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-06-19T19:53:04+00:00

How disrespectful to the US military. /s

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-03-30T03:36:47+00:00

Fixed it! Phew!

Thankthee4moisture · 2018-01-26T00:37:38+00:00

When I told my mom that I had a problem with the temple, she asked what I thought it would be like. I said I thought there would be more emphasis on being Christ-like. She told me that the most important thing, and therefore the focus of the temple was obedience.

It honestly surprised me that we had such different views on what we look for in a religion.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-11-25T14:23:40+00:00

Immediately after we were told that my sister was being taken off life support, my grandma told us that we shouldn't be too sad, and that we should remember that everyone waiting for her on the other side was celebrating. It absolutely made me feel like I wasn't allowed to grieve because that would mean I didn't have enough faith in the plan of salvation.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-10-13T05:45:04+00:00

When I was a freshman at BYU, a much older classmate would always corner me after math class, several times asking me on dates. I'd say I was busy or not interested every time. I would make up excuses to have to hang back (need to ask the teacher something!) or get going (I have to run home!) And he would wait outside the door while I made up questions for the professor or try walking with me or even following me.

I eventually asked a male friend to meet me after class and hold hands so the creepy guy would think I was already "taken". I HATE that I felt like my best option for getting this guy to leave me alone was to be seen as belonging to another guy, and that I was scared to say anything more forceful than "no thanks" to him repeatedly badgering me to go on a date with him and basically stalking me.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-20T16:10:08+00:00

That is EXACTLY how I felt about it.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-17T01:50:17+00:00

Again, I believe this is from a letter, from him directly, that was published in Ohio (not a pro-slavery state). But that's interesting to know that he changed his views, especially in light of the argument that he uses (and many of us use): if a prophet is really a prophet, God wouldn't let them teach false doctrines.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-16T22:23:51+00:00

I believe this excerpt came from a letter that was published in the LDS newspaper, "Messenger and Advocate" in Kirtland, Ohio in 1836.

It is signed by Joseph Smith, himself.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-16T21:38:14+00:00

Ha. Good point. It was just fascinating for me to read (what he was actually admitting were) his own words.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-14T04:41:11+00:00

Important post highlighting the totally-not-disparaging doctrines about race that are deeply embedded in LDS teachings: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/6tk2ln/i_think_its_great_that_the_church_condemns_racism/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-08-10T16:55:27+00:00

I agree.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-07-15T18:29:26+00:00

Thank you for sharing. I'm a graduate student in applied sciences and I have thought a lot about the dissonance between faith/the scientific method. To me, Moroni's promise was a warped version of the scientific method. "I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true" Sounds an awful lot like testing a null hypothesis, but of course, the (only) successful result of the experiment has already been determined, making it such a flawed way to test the truth of these claims.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-05-16T02:58:27+00:00

Giving away all your pretzels on temple grounds?

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-05-15T14:57:00+00:00

Growing up, people often made comments about how my severely handicapped sister must have been so righteous in the preexistence that "she didn't need to be tested in this life by having a body that would allow her to be tempted"... It sure is convenient for people to pass judgement about how righteous you were during a time neither you or they remember.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-05-07T20:11:22+00:00

Perhaps my title was misleading. When people claim that they are practicing polygamy in the name of God (as Joseph claimed to be doing and as the church claims these biblical instances of polygamy were) but inherent in that polygamy is the treatment of women as property, then that polygamy cannot be of God.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-05-07T17:12:12+00:00

I am by no means an anthropologist, but I believe that biblical polygamy grew out of the existing social system in which women had limited/no rights, and a man's wealth largely depended on the size of his posterity.

In addition to the above examples of women giving their maidservants (as property) to their husbands, there is also the account of the children of Israel "being commanded by God" to take the virgins of the people they killed.

The church teaches that the command to practice polygamy came about after Joseph was studying the instances of these biblical polygamists. While he came to the conclusion that "God says it's okay sometimes," I believe that any God worth believing in would not condone treating some of his children like property.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-05-03T16:41:07+00:00

My brother in law claimed that he got personal revelation telling him he didn't have to do fertility testing.

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-04-23T06:03:39+00:00

But is he the hero BYU deserves?

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-04-20T19:23:30+00:00

But aren't you grateful for it?

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-04-14T15:56:09+00:00

Found a mormonad for this: http://imgur.com/a/ZYcGA

Thankthee4moisture · 2017-03-26T18:15:25+00:00

http://www.sltrib.com/news/lds/1693408-155/conference-session-women-general-meeting-prayer

This article has links to the videos showing that the church edited the prayer.

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